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The idea that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.

 
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i was actually thinking to it just before I connected to the internet.

in particular as we get to life....we abandon the totality to become one we are at war with environment (totality) and how ego keep us to surrender to it and maintain our form as individual in order to experience the totality from outside. of course at the end we gonna join the totality but not as defeat by it but as part of it
we are experiencing separation to value the totality and vice versa

it's a cycle more than a straight path
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OP I have a question. If the universe is one consciousness, then why is my experience of consciousness "trapped" in this one particular human body? Or is this an illusion?

And if it is an illusion, then how can my experience of consciousness be reunited wih the universal consciousness (other than death)?
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It's these (d20) diamonds that make GLP worth it. Thank you.

So this implies that it should be possible to 'sync' with a higher level of consciousness that makes use of some of these dimensions to solve things.

This maps to my suspicion that our current brain/body is just a bootstrap. Light body, shmite body. Gimme that light brain to interface better than any quantum computer with this ligh/sound brain. (Go find the research paper that seems to show that sound can travel faster than light under quite common conditions!)

I like running experiments, So I projected what light brain I may have built up into this model asking the question: 'so what of this are we missing?

Instant return: the 10 dimensions described are the yang dimensions. There are 10 matching yin dimensions. The break in symmetry is a reflection of our current inability to understand this, this is analogous to the bad assumption that the past is fixed. The physics should try and detect the slight uncertainty as to what happened as well.

The assumption that the break in symmetry is what leads to matter needs re-evaluation as well. Matter in symmetry just leads to easier methods/q-algorithms to zoom in on optimal solutions.

This somehow maps to the algorithm for life, which is anti-hierarchical, placing a stake against most monotheisms but strangely not against the original, vanilla, Christianity. Which is fundamentally anarchistic. And effectively identical to the ex-secret 3rd path of dzogchen, with the neat addition that he offers to be your 'online' guru. (Christtards: stop! I'm agreeing with you, how improbable!) and part of the imagery was the play between a d20 and a d12.
Is 'Question everything!' a good idea? (The Gödel take on conspiracy theories)
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How best to make converts twice the children of hell - deceive them. Sway them that Jesus Christ is a myth, then smother them in science fiction and science falsely called as truth. Convince them that modern science is truth and not dominated by men of eastern babylonian religions,
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Because the Vatican created fairy tales have nothing to do with Babylon? Wake up dude. Rome has tricked you, you believe in reguritated babylonian idol worship.
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Doing it this way is a lot faster and easier than previously, but not the first interesting answer I downloaded from that space. I suspect all paradigm shifting insights do, it even might be the source of the incorrectly named 'free will'. Maybe it should be called 'optimal-as-my-viewpoint-frames-the-question will' 

Anyway, when pondering the Big Bang, zero (zero!) entropy, almost no information and quasars at quantumised distances, this popped in: see the universe at t=0 as a d12 (dodecahedron) and at t=1 the first Goldmann sphere I.e. A soccer ball. The 12 pentagrams set up the comms system somehow (by compressing 6 unrelated dimenstions into quaternion planes, it showed, hmmmm, nice wtf?). The hexagrams then run a quantum-base4 game-of-life (the irony of our words, they're fractals holographic too!) and every now and then something happens and the order of the Goldmann sphere goes up, i.e. The Planck length has a quantum reduction. 

Et voila! The simple universe game. Maybe it's a game of solve the Rubics's sphere that is yourself for the next order sphere before the information-heat-death which marks the end of time.    Now as the order increases, see if you can do a Gödel on that, bitches!

So now we have a small sub-game going: see if we can upgrade our software from DNA-as-protein coding, to real software as light-and-sound transducers and non-enzymatic metabolism before we poison ourselves to death. (Did anyone whisper fractal or holographic?) And then beat the quantum-computer scientists at programming the lowlevel hardware with, quite exact natural language. Hmmm. 

At this point I invoke Douglas Adams and fly to the hills. Singularity= New Planck length. Run Forrest RUN!
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It s not Bills idea, but mark twains, which was bills main influence.

Twains understanding came mainly from studying gnosis and the ancients


When you experience yourself OBjectively things start to get really funky, woooohoooooo i'm the center of the fuckin universe baby!!!!!!!! eat ya fuckin apples and smile, did ya think there was more?

oh there is more alright ohyeah MUCH MORE
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save your SELF
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save THE self
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Bill Hicks unloads this very provocative idea that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.



The idea that we are all parts of something bigger is not limited to Bill Hick's comedic routine. Before dabbling into esoteric and religious revelations let's look at the more scientific theory that suggests everything arises out of a state of oneness.

If you believe in cosmology and the big-bang, the current scientific theory is that the Universe at one point existed as a singularity and expanded in a big explosion called the Big Bang and thus formed the Universe.

Bear in mind, this is a theory but it gives us a starting point to examine the idea that a singularity can give rise to a multi-dimensional Universe.

What is a singularity? In geometrical terms a singularity is like the zero dimension or a point. It has no length, width or depth. The point in geometry is 0-dimensional.

As a singularity having no time, no space it likely only has a spin and angle which can actually give rise to the properties of to form a pattern which could lead to another type of expansion at an information level so lets examine how a singularity or a point can expand into the first, second, third dimension and so on.

As a physical system a point can either stretch into the first dimension, or it can self-replicate as more points, or it can move in any direction over and over again.

As an information system a point needs to produce another metric such as active/inactive or a spin. A binary state is more than enough to create {0/1} or {active/inactive} and store these states in the event-horizon which acts both as memory and information storage.

In the case of a big bang where every electron, photon et all co-existed in this singularity when they emerge we see properties of entanglement where two particles entangled with each other show the same measurement as if particle "b" knows what particle "a" is doing instantly over great distances. This is known as the EPR Paradox and is what Einstein coined as "Spooky Action from a Distance".

John Wheeler and Richard Feynman proposed a hypotheses called the "One Electron Universe" citing that the reason why every electron appears the same is that it is the same entity moving forwards and backwards in time creating a giant knot. It is interesting in singularity theory that a singularity could itself be the point moving forwards and back in time with itself to produce a larger informational manifold of space/time.

So keep this in mind, one electron entangled within space/time. One point either stretching, reproducing or moving. In the case of Wheeler's One Electron Universe the point as represented by the electron is moving to create the illusion of stretching or self-replication.

In all three cases, these actions produce the criteria for other dimensions. The first dimension being length, the second being width, the third being depth, the forth being the animated sequence of change, the fifth being probability and potentially more dimensions theoretically exist.

What we take from the geometrical manifold is that it's properties predict that a singularity must expand in such a way that space/time emerges based on the constraints of length, width, depth, change and probability.

Take for example Carl Sagan's take on Flatland to explain the 4th dimension.


And take this excellent illustrated video about 10 dimensions as another reference for what we observe in dimensional theory.



What does the first dimension allow for the point or singularity? It allows more information to exist. The information now can describe potentially infinite left/right distance in a spacial manifold. The point can be found traversing this length propping it up giving way to a larger informational potential.

When the point moves/stretches/replicates into the second dimension it now has exponentially more information it can produce. Instead of just a line, it can produce two dimensional patterns. Circles, Triangles, Squares and so on. A lot more information can appear on the 2nd dimensional maniford vs the zero and first. So much so that we can see beautiful illustrations as examples of how information can organize into complex patterns given just one more manifold to contain information.

When the point moves/stretches/replicates into the third dimension we suddenly have depth and distances between objects. The manifold takes on all our known properties of a third dimensional reality.

In order to observe change in any of these dimensions you need time which itself is the frame-rate of change between one frame of 3rd dimensional information. With time, you have past, present and future on a single time-line.

In Carl Sagan's flatland example, a third dimensional object passing through the second dimension can only be observed as second-dimensional information as it looses the property of depth. The second dimension can only see a slice of the third-dimension as there is no depth to describe the object. A cube becomes a square, it's depth is subtracted, very simple.

If we go back to quantum mechanics and superposition, we can see the shadow of the fifth-dimension (hopefully by now you are familiar with the shadow of the tesseract in Carl Sagan's flatland video ) and you know that in the third dimension we can only see the third-dimensional properties of other dimensions passing through it.

Superposition shows that a particle is a probability distribution when it produces an interference pattern. The interference pattern demonstrates fifth-dimensional properties of probability and yields some evidence that a fifth dimensional manifold exists for real. (Not in theory).

We know what can be described as information in the third-dimension, we live breath and experience reality from this constraint. An entire endless possibly infinite Universe can be contained with this level of information. But scale it down to the second, first and to the zero it looses information.

It is beneficial to the singularity to continue to progress into more and more dimensions because it will yeild far more potential information and states. A point in the fifth-dimension can now occupy many locations at once. The fifth-dimension can store not just one set of time-lines as limited by fourth-dimensional constraints.

By the time we get to the sixth dimension, the potential is so astronomical for what the geometrical manifolds can store as fifth dimensional information, that when we get to the sixth dimension which now can observe not just a single 4th dimensional time-line, but it can observe all fifth-dimensional time-lines and all the probable outcomes in each line.

The seventh dimension, the point becomes an infinite point (as per the video) meaning it contains all of the 0-6 dimensions and now we start seeing not just one Universe potential emerging as multiple universes can now start branching from this informational manifold. By the time we get to the 10th, an infinite number of universes can be contained and it appears what... a point.

So we begin from something very simple a point and how it moves into a multi-dimensional manifold and see how in theory a singularity or a point could in fact create the Universe, time and even a multi-verse.

What happens if we remove the point that is propping itself up into all these other dimensions? The manifolds all collapse back to a single point. It is the contraction of an expanded singularity into a geometrical manifold. To create a new universe all it has to do is repeat the process that allowed it to expand in the first place.

So why do we see little points and big points in our Universe? Why do little points, electrons, protons and other sub-atomic particles make up larger points such as atoms. Which then make up third-dimensional objects such as molecules, RNA/DNA to make up a cellular point which then makes up a body which itself is on top of a larger point, a planet which is a point circling a larger point, the sun which becomes a solar system that appears as a point of light in space that forms a galaxy which also forms a point in space?

This holographic recursion or fractal like nature is showing how everything is a part of everything else. That we exist in an interconnected reality system where everything is literally a part of everything else. For example, the carbon atom in your body could have been a carbon atom in a dinosaur.

The sunlight that was trapped as hydrocarbons by photosynthesis is now a part of your body, so a small part of the sun is already a part of you. We are no more separate from the Earth, than the Earth is separate from the solar system. The sun is no more separate from the Universe than the Universe is separate from reality.

Given enough time and entropy everything may collapse back into a singularity and be again one, or whole.

So how do we go from matter to awareness and see that awareness may also be a property of matter and itself a property of the singularity? Missing from cosmology is the idea that the singularity was self-aware.

In Bill Hicks muse, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. In dimensional theory we are all one point that has expanded into multidimensional manifolds. To give rise to our awareness in this equation we just need to add the attribute of awareness to the point. The point exists, and is aware that it exists.

As more patterns emerge, the point may never be aware of the larger objects it's forming, and each object that forms has it's own larger awareness. It produces an awareness fractal by which all things big and small have a subjective self-awareness constrained by dimensional boundaries. Yet all awareness could still come from a single universal source... the singularity or point that started it all.

I vote for a self-aware singularity that propagates itself through every dimension, and we are all parts of it, interconnected and unified forever changing from one pattern to the next, absolute and infinitely endless in all possibilities.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Stop this hippy BS ya hipster hippy on EBT no savings no job bong
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Know your SELF, be your SELF, save your SELF


This may seem irrelevant to most right now as they don't know what self is, they have been led and are part of the societal flock scared of dying, scared of discomfort, scared of self responsibilty, scared of freedom, "mmm my brain tells me this steak is good", you have GOT TO LEAVE society, there is no other way, it is a false collective, false idol, abomination, run by and for FEAR, it's not the path of true evolution, they are mind fuking you wake the fuk up reclaim your sovereignty, to hell with babylon
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I don't know if you are all one, but i can tell you with certainty that there are at least two out there.

Because i know for sure that me as an experiencing entity am not any part of your oneness.

I know when someone kicks you in the butt, i won't experience any of the pain.

I am me and you are you, or you are all one sub me, which would mean we are all two as a minimum.
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OP I have a question. If the universe is one consciousness, then why is my experience of consciousness "trapped" in this one particular human body? Or is this an illusion?
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That is how the 'one consciousness' evolves. 'Experiential Learning' through experiencing all possible options/outcomes/vantage points - then returning and merging back with itself... I always think of the visualization of the Terminator 'goo' in Terminator 2 when he would get shot/injured and that metallic liquid would disperse, then coagulate, and return to merge back with its source...

lolsign

And if it is an illusion, then how can my experience of consciousness be reunited wih the universal consciousness (other than death)?
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There's a built in mechanism for that. The fact that you are even asking such a question is a really promising. The formula roughly goes something like this:

-continue to elevate/expand your state of awareness and broaden your frame of reference and perception
-work to draw conscious energy away from the physical mind and to increasingly distance yourself from conscious identification with the notion of the 'physical self' being your identity, redirect that conscious energy to heart region and to embracing heart-based emotions/actions (empathy, kindness, compassion, selflessness, acceptance, forgiveness)
-work on emptying yourself of limiting beliefs and make efforts to undo the conditioning imparted on you by the physical world
-seek to identify, confront (re-experience), and thereby release emotional 'blockages (emotional energy) that you had generated and accumulated from prior life experiencs

This is just a general outline of course. The internal process that is initiated and navigated through will have a purifying effect on you and the end result of the process is that you will have profoundly transformed your state of awareness - upon which you will feel, perceive the interconnectedness of all that exists and gone will be the former sense of existing as an 'individual, physical self' that was separate and detached from everything you experienced and interacted with.

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That is how the 'one consciousness' evolves. 'Experiential Learning' through experiencing all possible
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And why cannot be there two or three or more 'one consciousness' out there?

The whole concept is stupid, but i am sure you have some evidence or facts to go with your theory.

Otherwise you are just spreading mindfuckery
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but what would the fat man say?



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Thank you for taking the time to write this. I LITERALLY stumbled upon an expansion of that theory you stated through out your post. My friend and I were stoned and reading Think and Grow Rivlch. I had read it 3 times before, it was his first read.
Without going into the book to much. It states repeatedly that the universe has a secret that if known, it had the POTENTIAL to shape ones life to how he/she would want it to be.

Without getting into why, in THIS reply, we figured out that God, everything, experience... EVERYTHING... Is thought.

Simply put: God tells Abraham: "I am, that I am"

Or Descartes: "I think therefore i am"

What that and the countless other evidence beneath our noses is telling me is:

If you replace the word AM with EXIST to get a better idea.. It makes more sense.


I think therfore I EXIST and I EXIST, as that which EXISTS.

If everything that THINKS (dog, cat, mouse, fish, etc) can think from the perspective "I Am", they are a fragment of God, or thought.

And since all matter vibrates at the same rate on a sub atomic level AND we have proven that thought is energy.. The Hindus creation story COULD make sense... In a way. If ANYTHING, it could represent it as a metaphor.

"Shiva asleep on a turtles back, dreaming a dream that is our reality."

Shiva incarnates as every living thing because, well in a dream, every character in your dream is YOUR mind. Technically, when we are dreaming, we are experiencing OURSELVES subjectivity..


Long story short, check out THINK AND GROW RICH by Napoleon Hill.
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This type of thread is why I LOVE GLP.
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It's probably a tl;dr for some but I like to contemplate how the universe expanded from a singularity and how everything relates to dimensions and awareness as we clearly exist in a system that supports the third-dimension so dimensional theory is actually very intriguing; more so when you can see yourself entangled in such a system.
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So true my friend! Great to see such a great write up as I would love to so something similar with my research but never have the time to put anything together.- Sadly I dont have enough time to read it tonight- just skimp but carnt wait to get through it!

I vote for a self-aware singularity that propagates itself through every dimension, and we are all parts of it, interconnected and unified forever changing from one pattern to the next, absolute and infinitely endless in all possibilities.
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hf hf
Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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I agree. Knowing this, we should be able to graph our reality the way we want it.
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I think it is for these reasons that the law-of-attraction, or thought-manifestation for some people work. I've experimented with such ideas and seen results so hopeful to be more understanding of these strange underlying processes.

It makes reality feel like we are living in a choose your own adventure book. All sorts of different possibilities lurk within the potentially infinite probability nodes.
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if that was true sure was a lot of people chose to subject their selves to a heinous life. not sure i can buy it tho because there are way more people suffering than not.
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All that you are doing is giving the religious belief called MONism prevalent in the majority of religions on this earth, wrapped up in scientific sounding terms. Understand the religions of the men giving it to you, and you will find the source of the error.
Science falsely called.
Remember Man MONIS?
How about getting millions to declare themselves to be one in 'charlie'?
Monism

How best to make converts twice the children of hell - deceive them. Sway them that Jesus Christ is a myth, then smother them in science fiction and science falsely called as truth. Convince them that modern science is truth and not dominated by men of eastern babylonian religions, and they will never suspect that they are really being fed a diet of those religious beliefs as long as it is given as 'scientific theories'. The men are simply holding forth theories from their own religious understanding, and yet, swayed that 'men of science' are today's truth tellers, the people question nothing.

The masses holding up Je suis charlie signs are your evidence in just how willing people are to be united in religion without even understanding how the deception occurred or that it has occurred.
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The irony of a person who is freely thinking about how it all came to be is chastised by one who is blinded by religion.

Where you are satisfied with the notion that God simply created everything... the end. If this is true, I want to know what created God? How did God create everything> Why did God create everything? I want answers that go way beyond fictional fantasies and escape goat beliefs.

And the second irony here is Christianity itself is based on Monism where God is effectively telling you that he is everything.

Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


I can keep pulling out more to validate the Bible is Monism also. I am saying everything came from a singularity, or a state of oneness and we are all a part of it.

The Bible says this singularity is God and we all came from it and are a part of it.

It's all semantics from this point on... but the same thing in terms of how one thing can expand/evolve/grow into something as vast as a Multiverse.

One of my favorite reads is The Thunder, Perfect Mind which is a lost scroll

[link to gnosis.org]

Here is an excerpt:
"For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored one and the scorned one.
I am the whore and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am <the mother> and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.
I am the barren one
and many are her sons.
I am she whose wedding is great,
and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not bear.
I am the solace of my labor pains.
I am the bride and the bridegroom,
and it is my husband who begot me.
I am the mother of my father
and the sister of my husband
and he is my offspring.
I am the slave of him who prepared me.
I am the ruler of my offspring.
But he is the one who begot me before the time on a birthday.
And he is my offspring in (due) time,
and my power is from him.
I am the staff of his power in his youth,
and he is the rod of my old age.
And whatever he wills happens to me.
I am the silence that is incomprehensible
and the idea whose remembrance is frequent.
I am the voice whose sound is manifold
and the word whose appearance is multiple.
I am the utterance of my name."


And If you have read Far Journeys by Robert A. Monroe you'll find a person has a similar experience and says this:
Far Journeys Chapter 2 Page 60-61
[link to www.exopoliticshongkong.com]

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"Blessed are they who seek me. In seeking me, their long period of forgetfulness is coming to an end. They are awakening to who they truly are —a living part of me, manifesting life and radiating love.
"You have forgotten to look for me, much less gaze upon my countenance, oh, ye of little faith. There are countless numbers who live in the expectancy of my coming. In truth, I never left.
"Let him who has ears to hear, let him hear, now.
"You seek me amidst your blindness. You look upon me without recognition. You touch my hand and know not whom you have touched.
"You proclaim my name and my teachings as it suits you and the occasion. Awaken, behold the reality of my being that is among you.
"I am the earthquake, wind, and fire.
"I am the still small voice piercing the thunderous tumult.
"I am the peace beyond all understanding.
"I am the light that guides all men to the Father.
"I am the love that overcometh all things.
"lam the light that illumines the minds of men. lam the sustenance
of men's souls.
"I am your life and you are my own.
"I am the very breath you breathe.
"We are one in the Father.
"Do not despair, I will never leave thee nor forsake thee, nor can you truly forsake me, for we are one.
"Let the old way be gone. It must die and its ashes be blown to the four corners of the earth. The new is emerging but you must change your perspective. Do not look for me in the form of a man. The time is not yet. But look for me in the life that speaks to you in your everyday activities. You have looked amiss.
"I have no limitations and am not bound by physical dimensions.
"I defy logic and am beyond your conceptual imaginings.
"I live and move and have my being in all there is. You have sought me amiss.
"My countenance is seen within each face of my Father's creation. Look upon your brother and see my face.
"Bend over a still pool. Do not be deceived. The image that you see reflected is my own.
"Do you not see the truth now?
"Learn of me. Take within your hand a leaf, a stone, a drop of water, and know that nothing exists that does not contain me.
"Have you not known that I am eternal life and therefore recognize neither the past nor the future? Only the now, that is. Live in the now, with me.
"I stand in the light, as you stand in the light. But you do not know of your light. I am here to show you that your light and my light are one and the same. Once you recognize this divine light to be a part of all that is, will you then begin to understand your own relationship to life, to your creator, and thereby to your own sonship eternal.
"I neither slumber nor sleep and you must leant that your soul neither slumbers nor sleeps. Once you realize this, you are aware of your spiritual vitality and wakefulness to your high consciousness. In so knowing you will understand that I am truly closer than your hands and your feet. In this knowing, in this knowledge, we are one.
"Live in truth. Be truth. Live in beauty. Become an artist in living.
"Live in me and let me express you.
"I reside in all space and no space, all time and no time.
"Once you turn and become a part of my reality, all power is restored unto you. This is the power that makes you one with all things. This is the power that will set you free.
"My children, abide in me."

Which again I find very intriguing especially compared to the Thunder, Perfect Mind and all the similar verses in the Bible that pretty much sum up the big picture of our literal oneness.

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Think. There are approx 7 billion people on this planet. Let's say that Mr and Mrs Smith are in bed one night and upon awakening, Mrs Smith realises that her husband has died in the night. What's changed in consciousness? Not a thing.

Now, let's say that everyone else in the world also died at the exact same time as Mr Smith, leaving Mrs Smith the only living person left in the world. Ask the sme question - what's changed in consciousness? You'll get the same answer.

You then come to the inevitable conclusion that consciousness is independant of individual human experience.

And then Mrs Smith also dies. What then?
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From the old, comes the new. Reality is a cycle of death and rebirth. We move from one pattern to the next in the ebb and flow of absolute eternity. God recycles... just keep that in mind.
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From watching the video and reading the post, it's all clear that the fail-safe mechanism is still up and running like clock work.

Yeah, doing all that talking, just to make this point; what's that? A black chess-board is One, now you add a white point and then another white point...is the chess-board still black?


All that education and all those Phd's, good luck! Out Of One We're Many.
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From watching the video and reading the post, it's all clear that the fail-safe mechanism is still up and running like clock work.

Yeah, doing all that talking, just to make this point; what's that? A black chess-board is One, now you add a white point and then another white point...is the chess-board still black?


All that education and all those Phd's, good luck! Out Of One We're Many.
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We walk across, drive across and fly across America is this point still America?
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From watching the video and reading the post, it's all clear that the fail-safe mechanism is still up and running like clock work.

Yeah, doing all that talking, just to make this point; what's that? A black chess-board is One, now you add a white point and then another white point...is the chess-board still black?


All that education and all those Phd's, good luck! Out Of One We're Many.
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The point is just another road on top of...???
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Of course he did. Great guy, but just like Carlin, he was Illuminati supported. ALL the truth they expelled is worth listening to, but their one requirement: to bash Jesus Christ, the ultimate truth. Typical of sold out hollywood jesters/entertainers.


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The assumption is flawed: Why would conciousness be construed as one thing?
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Fractals, fractals, fractals.....

Fractals are infinitely complex patterns that are self-similar across different scales. They are created by repeating a simple process over and over in an ongoing feedback loop. Driven by recursion, fractals are images of dynamic systems
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We are all one spirit, separated by this thing we call "ego". Humanity is like one giant consciousness with 7 billion split personalities. Each one thinks it's separate, yet they all exist within the same mind. Ego is the mechanism that divides them and allows them to think for themselves, disconnected from the collective.

A means to harness the ego that clings to our spirit,
The weapons to cleave it from ourselves if need be.
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Oops, that was me ^
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Dealing with the same hell; just different devils
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Add to this the concept of no-time and the probability of infinite universes.
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Nice to see you back again Mr. W
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Is that you, Maynard?
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bro...

so good to see you, I missed you so much...





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