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The idea that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.

 
YouAreDreaming  (OP)

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The assumption is flawed: Why would conciousness be construed as one thing?
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Bill Hicks calls it consciousness but you must understand that is an idiom. A better term in my opinion for this model is "self" that the singularity implies one-self expanded into many selves and itself is like a large awareness fractal where nodes produce individualism but each node is part of the whole fractal system.

You are the atom, the singularity, the awareness of the Universe experiencing itself subjectively as an individual entity yet still part of the unified whole which is Reality and all that is contained within it.
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Spooky action from a distance. That is an interesting way of putting it....

If everything is connected via consciousness (which it is) then when are humans going to make the evolutionary jump in being able to utilize telepathy effectively on a broad scale?
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The way I think of it is One Self, as a conglomerate of cells, many of which are awakening even though dreaming.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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Spooky action from a distance. That is an interesting way of putting it....

If everything is connected via consciousness (which it is) then when are humans going to make the evolutionary jump in being able to utilize telepathy effectively on a broad scale?
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That may be a limit or an evolutionary process but I do believe achievable and likely we are already in unconscious telepathy as per Rupert Sheldrakes research.

As for it replacing the telephone type of leap, I don't know but I don't rule out such a potential. If we are telepathic it's subconscious and thus we have those moments when you know what someone else was thinking or finish their sentence or vice-versa... it "could" be a sign of that potential surfacing in real-world experiences. I just keep an open mind about it.
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This type of thread is why I LOVE GLP.
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It's probably a tl;dr for some but I like to contemplate how the universe expanded from a singularity and how everything relates to dimensions and awareness as we clearly exist in a system that supports the third-dimension so dimensional theory is actually very intriguing; more so when you can see yourself entangled in such a system.
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Edit:

Maybe I'll reformulate my argument here....

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bump
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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i absolutely reject that idea.

i am not like G.W.Bush or Dick Cheney or Putin.

or any sick jihadist

or a "free"mason.

This is total bullshit.

you mean that i relate to the sick fucks currently slaughtering childrens in Africa.

fuck you!
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yep this newage/sewage/garbage

oh look!

i just shat on it!
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yep this newage/sewage/garbage

oh look!

i just shat on it!
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You may as well be shatting on yourself.
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I see God as seperate. Like having 2 beings in my world. My own self awareness and the awareness of someone else that you cant see. You couldnt see in a fog. We may get smoked in a all consuming fire.
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I see God as seperate. Like having 2 beings in my world. My own self awareness and the awareness of someone else that you cant see. You couldnt see in a fog. We may get smoked in a all consuming fire.
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i absolutely reject that idea.

i am not like G.W.Bush or Dick Cheney or Putin.

or any sick jihadist

or a "free"mason.

This is total bullshit.

you mean that i relate to the sick fucks currently slaughtering childrens in Africa.

fuck you!
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and you were jesus.

people are trapped inside of their mind. they don't believe they are you either.

if they knew the people they were hurting was themselves would they still do it?
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Watch these two subjective points of the one consciousness meet:

[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]

[link to www.liveleak.com]

The 4-dimensional leopard charges and rips the 4-dimensional face off of the 4-dimensional man, killing him, while the 4-dimensional man with the camera, another subjective point of the one consciousness, screams.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


And there is a 5th dimensional probability where he didn't have to be there that day as other circumstances lead him down a different path. We just happen to be traversing the timeline where he was attacked by the lepoard.

I have a precognitive dream example where I saw myself in my car with my daughter (who would be 4 at the time) loosing control down an icy hill passing into on coming traffic. A white pickup truck struck the driver side door waking me up.

Having had precognition throughout my life, I took that realism presented in the dream as a possible probable event and for the first time bought studded winter tires for my car.

The dream proved to be precognitive, so same hill, same icy road and even with the studs it was hard to stop but having them changed the circumstances and I stopped about a foot past the stop sign, and this time the white pick up truck passed in front of me.

You are in the probability time-line where I wasn't struck by that truck. The difference here is I know that I have escaped a possible fate and am ever grateful for that experience. Learned a lot about probability, time, precognition, dreams and reality.

Some final destination shit right there.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Are you special because you have pre-cognitive dreams that warn you of impending danger?
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Are you special because you have pre-cognitive dreams that warn you of impending danger?
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Damn fucking straight... I'd probably be dead if it wasn't for them.
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Are you special because you have pre-cognitive dreams that warn you of impending danger?
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


Damn fucking straight... I'd probably be dead if it wasn't for them.
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What sort of people have pre-cognitive dreams? Do all people have them?
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What sort of people have pre-cognitive dreams? Do all people have them?
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I think everyone has the potential to have them. The common experience of deja vu in my opinion is linked to the precognitive dream experience which is actually known as deja reve.

The problem is amnesia, we encounter this problem during sleep where we can engage hours of dream content and remember none of it when we wake up. So like any amnesia when a familiar pattern triggers a memory we have that deja vu aura. It's the same reason why Temporal Lobe Epilepsy produces deja because our dream content actually originates in short-term memory rather than long term.

So to have them, dream more, remember them more and hopefully it starts to surface from the unconscious memories linked to sleep induced amnesia.
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All that you are doing is giving the religious belief called MONism prevalent in the majority of religions on this earth, wrapped up in scientific sounding terms. Understand the religions of the men giving it to you, and you will find the source of the error.
Science falsely called.
Remember Man MONIS?
How about getting millions to declare themselves to be one in 'charlie'?
Monism

How best to make converts twice the children of hell - deceive them. Sway them that Jesus Christ is a myth, then smother them in science fiction and science falsely called as truth. Convince them that modern science is truth and not dominated by men of eastern babylonian religions, and they will never suspect that they are really being fed a diet of those religious beliefs as long as it is given as 'scientific theories'. The men are simply holding forth theories from their own religious understanding, and yet, swayed that 'men of science' are today's truth tellers, the people question nothing.

The masses holding up Je suis charlie signs are your evidence in just how willing people are to be united in religion without even understanding how the deception occurred or that it has occurred.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67259757


The irony of a person who is freely thinking about how it all came to be is chastised by one who is blinded by religion.

Where you are satisfied with the notion that God simply created everything... the end. If this is true, I want to know what created God? How did God create everything> Why did God create everything? I want answers that go way beyond fictional fantasies and escape goat beliefs.

And the second irony here is Christianity itself is based on Monism where God is effectively telling you that he is everything.

Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


I can keep pulling out more to validate the Bible is Monism also. I am saying everything came from a singularity, or a state of oneness and we are all a part of it.

The Bible says this singularity is God and we all came from it and are a part of it.

It's all semantics from this point on... but the same thing in terms of how one thing can expand/evolve/grow into something as vast as a Multiverse.

One of my favorite reads is The Thunder, Perfect Mind which is a lost scroll

[link to gnosis.org]

Here is an excerpt:
"For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored one and the scorned one.
I am the whore and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am <the mother> and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.
I am the barren one
and many are her sons.
I am she whose wedding is great,
and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not bear.
I am the solace of my labor pains.
I am the bride and the bridegroom,
and it is my husband who begot me.
I am the mother of my father
and the sister of my husband
and he is my offspring.
I am the slave of him who prepared me.
I am the ruler of my offspring.
But he is the one who begot me before the time on a birthday.
And he is my offspring in (due) time,
and my power is from him.
I am the staff of his power in his youth,
and he is the rod of my old age.
And whatever he wills happens to me.
I am the silence that is incomprehensible
and the idea whose remembrance is frequent.
I am the voice whose sound is manifold
and the word whose appearance is multiple.
I am the utterance of my name."


And If you have read Far Journeys by Robert A. Monroe you'll find a person has a similar experience and says this:
Far Journeys Chapter 2 Page 60-61
[link to www.exopoliticshongkong.com]

SS/NVP (DECORATOR) 92:30 MIN #388
"Blessed are they who seek me. In seeking me, their long period of forgetfulness is coming to an end. They are awakening to who they truly are —a living part of me, manifesting life and radiating love.
"You have forgotten to look for me, much less gaze upon my countenance, oh, ye of little faith. There are countless numbers who live in the expectancy of my coming. In truth, I never left.
"Let him who has ears to hear, let him hear, now.
"You seek me amidst your blindness. You look upon me without recognition. You touch my hand and know not whom you have touched.
"You proclaim my name and my teachings as it suits you and the occasion. Awaken, behold the reality of my being that is among you.
"I am the earthquake, wind, and fire.
"I am the still small voice piercing the thunderous tumult.
"I am the peace beyond all understanding.
"I am the light that guides all men to the Father.
"I am the love that overcometh all things.
"lam the light that illumines the minds of men. lam the sustenance
of men's souls.
"I am your life and you are my own.
"I am the very breath you breathe.
"We are one in the Father.
"Do not despair, I will never leave thee nor forsake thee, nor can you truly forsake me, for we are one.
"Let the old way be gone. It must die and its ashes be blown to the four corners of the earth. The new is emerging but you must change your perspective. Do not look for me in the form of a man. The time is not yet. But look for me in the life that speaks to you in your everyday activities. You have looked amiss.
"I have no limitations and am not bound by physical dimensions.
"I defy logic and am beyond your conceptual imaginings.
"I live and move and have my being in all there is. You have sought me amiss.
"My countenance is seen within each face of my Father's creation. Look upon your brother and see my face.
"Bend over a still pool. Do not be deceived. The image that you see reflected is my own.
"Do you not see the truth now?
"Learn of me. Take within your hand a leaf, a stone, a drop of water, and know that nothing exists that does not contain me.
"Have you not known that I am eternal life and therefore recognize neither the past nor the future? Only the now, that is. Live in the now, with me.
"I stand in the light, as you stand in the light. But you do not know of your light. I am here to show you that your light and my light are one and the same. Once you recognize this divine light to be a part of all that is, will you then begin to understand your own relationship to life, to your creator, and thereby to your own sonship eternal.
"I neither slumber nor sleep and you must leant that your soul neither slumbers nor sleeps. Once you realize this, you are aware of your spiritual vitality and wakefulness to your high consciousness. In so knowing you will understand that I am truly closer than your hands and your feet. In this knowing, in this knowledge, we are one.
"Live in truth. Be truth. Live in beauty. Become an artist in living.
"Live in me and let me express you.
"I reside in all space and no space, all time and no time.
"Once you turn and become a part of my reality, all power is restored unto you. This is the power that makes you one with all things. This is the power that will set you free.
"My children, abide in me."

Which again I find very intriguing especially compared to the Thunder, Perfect Mind and all the similar verses in the Bible that pretty much sum up the big picture of our literal oneness.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


What a load of crap. We are most definitely not one.

The Inquisition knew what to do with people like you; you reek of heresy mile away.
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What a load of crap. We are most definitely not one.

The Inquisition knew what to do with people like you; you reek of heresy mile away.
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blahblah5

You afraid of the truth?
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yep this newage/sewage/garbage

oh look!

i just shat on it!
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You may as well be shatting on yourself.
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Fuck you, you New Age hippie scum.

They need to bring the Inquisition back ASAP.
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yep this newage/sewage/garbage

oh look!

i just shat on it!
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You may as well be shatting on yourself.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Fuck you, you New Age hippie scum.

They need to bring the Inquisition back ASAP.
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It would only be themselves that they kill. We are an interconnected unified field of oneness like it or not, you are a cog in God's wheel.
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i absolutely reject that idea.

i am not like G.W.Bush or Dick Cheney or Putin.

or any sick jihadist

or a "free"mason.

This is total bullshit.

you mean that i relate to the sick fucks currently slaughtering childrens in Africa.

fuck you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56298223


and you were jesus.

people are trapped inside of their mind. they don't believe they are you either.

if they knew the people they were hurting was themselves would they still do it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67283513


I'm quite sure i have never been an undead Jewish zombie/vampire, so you are full of shit.

This theory is as deranged and ludicrous as all religions.
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What a load of crap. We are most definitely not one.

The Inquisition knew what to do with people like you; you reek of heresy mile away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65851201

blahblah5

You afraid of the truth?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Just because you think something is truth does not mean it is.
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Just because you think something is truth does not mean it is.
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And just because you don't doesn't mean it isn't.
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doesn't really matter what you think you are, rather what you experience yourself to be. You can think this is all a dream but let's see you wake up from it... not so easy is it?
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doesn't really matter what you think you are, rather what you experience yourself to be. You can think this is all a dream but let's see you wake up from it... not so easy is it?
 Quoting: Sholomar


I've woken up from it... and you are right, it's not that easy.





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