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A Christian man who was forced to retire from being a general laborer at Consol Energy/Consolidation Coal Company’s mining in West Virginia, on the grounds of religious discrimination, was awarded $150,000 on Thursday.

The U. S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a lawsuit on behalf of Butcher against Consol Energy in September 2013 after the company refused to accommodate him when he told them that submitting to a newly installed biometric hand-scanner that tracks employees’ time and attendance conflicted with his religious belief.
Beverly R. Butch was worried that the biometric hand-scanner would give him the “mark of the beast” and that the technology was associated with the Antichrist, as described in the Bible. Revelations 13:17-18 states:

“and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.”

When Butcher requested an alternative method, which had been provided to two other employees because they had missing fingers, the company denied his wishes.

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I remember when this first happened, it was ages ago... glad he won..
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I remember when this first happened, it was ages ago... glad he won..
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Is this a passive scanner, or is some sort of "mark" or chip required in/on his hand?

That really makes a difference. Glad he won though, even if it was a passive scanner being used, it's still a precursor to the real thing.
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Is this a passive scanner, or is some sort of "mark" or chip required in/on his hand?

That really makes a difference. Glad he won though, even if it was a passive scanner being used, it's still a precursor to the real thing.
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Gotta be a chip implanted into his hand in order for a scanner to be able to work.
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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religion should not have been part of this. Anyone who wanted to refuse should've been allowed to.
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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whatever
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Judge much? Pull the plank from your own eye.

How do you know he wasn't just trying to get his job back?

150k could have easily just been lost wages
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Judge much? Pull the plank from your own eye.

How do you know he wasn't just trying to get his job back?

150k could have easily just been lost wages
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The New Testament doesn't make exceptions for getting your job back. Christians are to turn the other cheek and love those who misuse them. There is no clause for seeking justice or evening the score, they are to love their enemies. I'm guessing you aren't a real Christian though so you just believe whatever you want.
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Suing someone isn't an unforgivable sin. Taking the mark of the beast is.
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Judge much? Pull the plank from your own eye.

How do you know he wasn't just trying to get his job back?

150k could have easily just been lost wages
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The New Testament doesn't make exceptions for getting your job back. Christians are to turn the other cheek and love those who misuse them. There is no clause for seeking justice or evening the score, they are to love their enemies. I'm guessing you aren't a real Christian though so you just believe whatever you want.
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Judging again, huh?
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Great to hear!

Also agree with another poster, that this should be beyond religious freedom. There is no way in hell I'm letting a company put a chip in me, mark of the beast or not. You shouldn't be fired for not being willing to be implanted with a tracking device.

It would be less hassle for the company just to use lanyards that the employee can put on when the enter the mine and take off when they leave. Absolutely no need to implant anything.
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Judge much? Pull the plank from your own eye.

How do you know he wasn't just trying to get his job back?

150k could have easily just been lost wages
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


The New Testament doesn't make exceptions for getting your job back. Christians are to turn the other cheek and love those who misuse them. There is no clause for seeking justice or evening the score, they are to love their enemies. I'm guessing you aren't a real Christian though so you just believe whatever you want.
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The word "Christian" means follower of Christ not doormat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with seeking proper restitution for financial loss.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Well thank goodness we have you to point it out for us.
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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Ok, I'm confused here...

My sister went in to labour in hospital 5 years ago with her 2nd child, cut a long story short, the on-call pediatrician failed to take my sister down for an emergency cesarean at 1:30am, even though he knew the babies sats were dropping quickly. Instead, he left it until 6am before rushing her down for the op. Upon bringing baby out, she wasn't breathing - It took 8mins to resuscitate her. She was placed in an incubator for emergency cooling for 3 days to stop further damage to her brain. We were told that to switch off her machines would be the best thing for her...As she was suffering with every breath...We sat in a side room with her...But she carried on breathing! Even to this day, she breaths herself...but that is all she can do! She is blind, deaf, tube-fed, epileptic and is paralysed.

The hospital has ADMITTED liability! The claim for negligence is just over 2.5m...And they will get it..Mum and Dad had to give up work as she needs 24hr care, they struggle everyday with help for her, living in a small house, not enough money to buy her things she needs to make her comfortable, they are in hospital with her more than they are at home, they don't sleep much, for their daughter can't swallow her own saliva and will silently choke to death if she isn't suctioned!!

How is suing the hospital that did this wrong? That little girl deserves the best care she can get but everything comes with a price these days! That money will make her more comfortable with chairs, adaptations, disability baths etc....How is this wrong in God's eyes???

From, a confused believer!
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Sorry OP...How rude of me to not mention!

Amazing outcome and story 5* hf
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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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But yours stands out like a FLAMING beacon!

"Cast Not Your Pearls....."

"Judge Not, Less Thee Be..."

And I'm almost certain....You look forward to being called for Jury Duty & taking Oaths as well!

Yeah, you're right....."The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible", as your post surely proved!
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religion should not have been part of this. Anyone who wanted to refuse should've been allowed to.
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Have to agree. This should be more about liberty than religion. Nevertheless I'm glad he won because it sets a legal precedent.
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religion should not have been part of this. Anyone who wanted to refuse should've been allowed to.
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Have to agree. This should be more about liberty than religion. Nevertheless I'm glad he won because it sets a legal precedent.
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Agree 100%.
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Great to hear!

Also agree with another poster, that this should be beyond religious freedom. There is no way in hell I'm letting a company put a chip in me, mark of the beast or not. You shouldn't be fired for not being willing to be implanted with a tracking device.

It would be less hassle for the company just to use lanyards that the employee can put on when the enter the mine and take off when they leave. Absolutely no need to implant anything.
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Agreed!!
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Is this a passive scanner, or is some sort of "mark" or chip required in/on his hand?

That really makes a difference. Glad he won though, even if it was a passive scanner being used, it's still a precursor to the real thing.
 Quoting: Sikhed


Gotta be a chip implanted into his hand in order for a scanner to be able to work.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Actually, I'm guessing no chip is involved. This line:

"When Butcher requested an alternative method, which had been provided to two other employees because they had missing fingers, the company denied his wishes."

...sounds like a fingerprint scanner. If there was a chip in the hand, missing fingers wouldn't stop it from working as intended.

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Is this a passive scanner, or is some sort of "mark" or chip required in/on his hand?

That really makes a difference. Glad he won though, even if it was a passive scanner being used, it's still a precursor to the real thing.
 Quoting: Sikhed


Gotta be a chip implanted into his hand in order for a scanner to be able to work.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Actually, I'm guessing no chip is involved. This line:

"When Butcher requested an alternative method, which had been provided to two other employees because they had missing fingers, the company denied his wishes."

...sounds like a fingerprint scanner. If there was a chip in the hand, missing fingers wouldn't stop it from working as intended.
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I think you are right...

Biometric hand-scanner technology evaluates a person's hand geometry and stores the information to identify the same person in future scans, court documents said.

[link to www.law360.com]



But, I think this could easily lead to a chip..
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Is this a passive scanner, or is some sort of "mark" or chip required in/on his hand?

That really makes a difference. Glad he won though, even if it was a passive scanner being used, it's still a precursor to the real thing.
 Quoting: Sikhed


Gotta be a chip implanted into his hand in order for a scanner to be able to work.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Actually, I'm guessing no chip is involved. This line:

"When Butcher requested an alternative method, which had been provided to two other employees because they had missing fingers, the company denied his wishes."

...sounds like a fingerprint scanner. If there was a chip in the hand, missing fingers wouldn't stop it from working as intended.
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I think you are right...

Biometric hand-scanner technology evaluates a person's hand geometry and stores the information to identify the same person in future scans, court documents said.

[link to www.law360.com]



But, I think this could easily lead to a chip..
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or the CHIP in the COMPUTER that SCANS....while the person becomes MARKED PRODUCT to be scanned...

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If he takes the money then he isn't a real Christian to begin with. The Bible is clear that Christians are prohibited from using the law to sue others even if they've wronged you. The average Christian has no idea what's in the Bible though so I'm sure they won't notice his hypocrisy.
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bsflagbsflag

BS.

I DO know what is in the Bible.

The Bible says no such thing.

The Bible DOES have some things to say about suing
other Christians, but to say this individual was in any way wrong for using the courts for retribution and to correct a wrong is 100% wrong.

You are taking verses out of context.

Shame on you.





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