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WTF??? Planet in the East (Jupiter?) is moving around

 
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The past week or so my wife and I have seen the same damn thing!!

We go outside around 10 every night for a cig and we both keep seeing this weird light thru the trees. Thought it was a plane or something, but it never gets any closer.

I have to move around to keep it in my vision. I know the tree wasn't moving.

In the western sky, low on the horizon.. Same place op?
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


east and south east is the area i see this the most
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


in the summer you might have convinced me it was atmosphere causing it, but after seeing this in the cold dry winter sky that ain't gonna fly
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
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 Quoting: thilliker2


Exactly
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Mercury, Earth, and Jupiter are all in alignment today. May have something to do with it.
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In the south east there is a star that twinkles.

This "thing" is low on the western horizon.. Idk, it may be nothing, but it's baffled me for a while now.

It's not like a live in a well lit area either. Sky is always dark and nothing but woods for miles behind house (west)
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Venus and Mars are visible in the western sky shortly after sun set.

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The past week or so my wife and I have seen the same damn thing!!

We go outside around 10 every night for a cig and we both keep seeing this weird light thru the trees. Thought it was a plane or something, but it never gets any closer.

I have to move around to keep it in my vision. I know the tree wasn't moving.

In the western sky, low on the horizon.. Same place op?
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


east and south east is the area i see this the most
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


in the summer you might have convinced me it was atmosphere causing it, but after seeing this in the cold dry winter sky that ain't gonna fly
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
peace
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
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If it was so spectacular and rare, why no video? That would be the first thing I would get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11912752


why bother? the shills will just say it's fake or make up some parallax drivel


the people paying attention should just show other people, not try to convince the internet
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


I was right about the parallax. It was not drivel.

I paid attention to Jupiter last night by naked eye while standing next to my scope. Looked fine to me. But hey, if it's wobbling all around the sky then let's see some astrometry showing it... Looked pretty normal from Hawaii last night too:
[link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i showed these moving objects to a friend, then asked if made that claim without him seeing it would you think i was nuts


too many people are seeing shit moving up there


this is an easy shill for you three experts, it sounds flat out crazy
 Quoting: Boris the Cat

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I'm not a shill, just an experienced astronomical observer who knows how to measure the position of the planets.
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In the south east there is a star that twinkles.

This "thing" is low on the western horizon.. Idk, it may be nothing, but it's baffled me for a while now.

It's not like a live in a well lit area either. Sky is always dark and nothing but woods for miles behind house (west)
 Quoting: Mr. NorM

Venus and Mars are visible in the western sky shortly after sun set.

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 Quoting: Hydra


It is about 4 hours+ after sunset.
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east and south east is the area i see this the most
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


in the summer you might have convinced me it was atmosphere causing it, but after seeing this in the cold dry winter sky that ain't gonna fly
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
peace
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
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What do you think of that video at top of pg4 Astro?
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why bother? the shills will just say it's fake or make up some parallax drivel


the people paying attention should just show other people, not try to convince the internet
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


I was right about the parallax. It was not drivel.

I paid attention to Jupiter last night by naked eye while standing next to my scope. Looked fine to me. But hey, if it's wobbling all around the sky then let's see some astrometry showing it... Looked pretty normal from Hawaii last night too:
[link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i showed these moving objects to a friend, then asked if made that claim without him seeing it would you think i was nuts


too many people are seeing shit moving up there


this is an easy shill for you three experts, it sounds flat out crazy
 Quoting: Boris the Cat

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
I'm not a shill, just an experienced astronomical observer who knows how to measure the position of the planets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



well you gotta figure when you and the other one gang up like this it gives the appearance of shilling

i like some of what you do, long been interested in this subject myself

but you won't convince me i'm not seeing shit move around up there
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in the summer you might have convinced me it was atmosphere causing it, but after seeing this in the cold dry winter sky that ain't gonna fly
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
peace
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers

not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
 Quoting: Mr. NorM
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in the summer you might have convinced me it was atmosphere causing it, but after seeing this in the cold dry winter sky that ain't gonna fly
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
peace
 Quoting: Mr. NorM




not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers
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I was right about the parallax. It was not drivel.

I paid attention to Jupiter last night by naked eye while standing next to my scope. Looked fine to me. But hey, if it's wobbling all around the sky then let's see some astrometry showing it... Looked pretty normal from Hawaii last night too:
[link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i showed these moving objects to a friend, then asked if made that claim without him seeing it would you think i was nuts


too many people are seeing shit moving up there


this is an easy shill for you three experts, it sounds flat out crazy
 Quoting: Boris the Cat

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
I'm not a shill, just an experienced astronomical observer who knows how to measure the position of the planets.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



well you gotta figure when you and the other one gang up like this it gives the appearance of shilling
 Quoting: Boris the Cat

Stop with the insults. I'm not a shill. There are multiple people who disagree with you just as there are multiple people who disagree with me. You don't see me accusing you of being a shill. Now play nice.
i like some of what you do,
 Quoting: boris

In other words, you like it when I give you pretty images, you just don't like the facts I present with them. Yeah, I get it.
but you won't convince me i'm not seeing shit move around up there
 Quoting: boris

Your eyes can deceive you without you even realizing it. Autokinetic effect.
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Show me dated photos of the planet relative to the stars that show it out of place. Time lapse video from last night showing Jupiter relative to the stars shows it where it should be.
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Makes sense, lol.

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Not trying to convince anyone. Just letting ppl know what I've been seeing.
peace
 Quoting: Mr. NorM




not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


There are some of us who are outside far longer at night than even smokers. Amateur astronomers. And we have high precision tools for observing and measuring the positions of the planets and stars as well.
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Jupiter wasn't moving and there's no space war going on. What you're seeing is what's known as "Earth Wobble".

Why do you think this past blizzard forecast was a good 50 miles off? It was the earth wobble again....
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WRONG! The so-called "experts" admitted they used the wrong computer model/program. They used the European model which threw off the estimated path by 100 miles. "Earth wobble"... what a maroon! Bwaaahaha!1rof1
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Doesn't make sense - why would someone use the European Model when they live in America?
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not you, the self anointed experts, i believe you, and bet many others smoking outdoors see it too


i even find a way to put something unmoving in my field of vision, a tree branch with a slight wind can give the illusion of movement
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


There are some of us who are outside far longer at night than even smokers. Amateur astronomers. And we have high precision tools for observing and measuring the positions of the planets and stars as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So wtf is the video on top pg4??
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don't worry about the internet experts
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this. because the 'experts' don't know shit.
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Re: WTF??? Planet in the East (Jupiter?) is moving around

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Exactly
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What exactly do you think is so unusual about this video? It appears to show Venus gradually setting in the west sometime in November 2013.
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well i'll just keep showing to people when it happens, proof is in the pudding
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Just to be clear, I see it when I'm not smoking as well.
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


There are some of us who are outside far longer at night than even smokers. Amateur astronomers. And we have high precision tools for observing and measuring the positions of the planets and stars as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So wtf is the video on top pg4??
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


Assuming the video was recorded the same time it was uploaded, of which there is no indication and no proof given, it appears to be Venus gradually setting in the west in November 2013. So what?
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well i'll just keep it showing to people when it happens, proof is in the pudding
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Make a box with aluminum foil on one side. Put a light inside the box and poke a pinhole in the aluminum. Darken the room and watch the light for a minute or two. See what happens. Report your results here.

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well i'll just keep it showing to people when it happens, proof is in the pudding
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Make a box with aluminum foil on one side. Put a light inside the box and poke a pinhole in the aluminum. Darken the room and watch the light for a minute or two. See what happens. Report your results here.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


and it's isn't always small movements, sometimes those things move a good distance
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Interesting. I didn't see anything like that.

And guys, let just assume something is out there, you think they gonna put it on stellarium or some other commercial app?! LOL
What are you even doing on conspiracy theory site? LOL
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ya me too, but smokers are outside often and regularly and it would stand to figure they would see this more than non smokers
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


There are some of us who are outside far longer at night than even smokers. Amateur astronomers. And we have high precision tools for observing and measuring the positions of the planets and stars as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So wtf is the video on top pg4??
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


Assuming the video was recorded the same time it was uploaded, of which there is no indication and no proof given, it appears to be Venus gradually setting in the west in November 2013. So what?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I'm just asking....Relax man. I Was just curious. Thx for the explanation peace
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don't worry about the internet experts
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this. because the 'experts' don't know shit.
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Wanna make a bet?
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well i'll just keep it showing to people when it happens, proof is in the pudding
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


Make a box with aluminum foil on one side. Put a light inside the box and poke a pinhole in the aluminum. Darken the room and watch the light for a minute or two. See what happens. Report your results here.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


and it's isn't always small movements, sometimes those things move a good distance
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Make a box with aluminum foil on one side. Put a light inside the box and poke a pinhole in the aluminum. Darken the room and watch the light for a minute or two. See what happens. Report your results here.
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Exactly
 Quoting: Mr. NorM


What exactly do you think is so unusual about this video? It appears to show Venus gradually setting in the west sometime in November 2013.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I just that it moves so fast, you can actually see it move
Why is that?





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