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Reincarnation - Scientific Evidence - Proven

 
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wondering if people have changed from 'believing in reincarnation' to 'not believing' after some years or the opposite...

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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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Did the story of the resurrection of Jesus not reveal reincarnation?
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Um no...that doesn't make any sense. He rose from the dead, the same person. Resurrection is not reincarnation.
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Why did his best mates not recognise him then?
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After following a thread with some 'feel bad' energy surrounding it.... letting (lost) people think that dead is dead , as if it's all useless to exist here... it feels GREAT to see my old thread again, feeling better now :)

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wondering if people have changed from 'believing in reincarnation' to 'not believing' after some years or the opposite...

hf
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Always believed. Always had memories, some sketchy, some clearer. Always had dreams, from youngest age of the previous selves.

Was not until my thirties I had waking life, without shadow of a doubt memory that could not be refuted or questioned, it was to the depth of my soul recall triggered by an encounter with another I had known well before. It opened the pandoras box of memories and connections to people in my life currently, and brought understanding to why they were near me again in this incarnation. Lessons.

I have recently encountered a previous soul who triggered new revelations of lifetimes past. More clear and detailed than any before. We are meant to find each other later on down the road, this is clear as well. Be on the lookout for clues, people you know now are souls from your past. In a blink a memory could be sparked and then you'll know the truth.
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some move through time into different bodies and some go back into their bodies and live again... these are what the corpus hermetica tells me are teh lucky ones...

we get to ever change and become perfected, and the knowledge of our path is more and more translated into the next pulse... into the next time through.
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I need cliff notes on the Corpus Hermetica, Kybalion and Emerald Tablets...Anyone??
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Look,


no offense but religitards of ANY of the abrahamic faiths are all based on pre medieval beliefs, all tied in and promulgated and influenced by earlier "pagan" religions in the area,


YOU aren't going to convince me with quoting your scripture (had a bellyful of that when I was young),


and reincarnationists are not going to convince you that your jewish book isn't the be all and end all of every question on earth.


one thing is certain, had the Reformation not taken place, we would still be driving ox carts, because the religionists have held mankind back with their violent hateful dogmatic religious beliefs.
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Look,


no offense but religitards of ANY of the abrahamic faiths are all based on pre medieval beliefs, all tied in and promulgated and influenced by earlier "pagan" religions in the area,


YOU aren't going to convince me with quoting your scripture (had a bellyful of that when I was young),


and reincarnationists are not going to convince you that your jewish book isn't the be all and end all of every question on earth.


one thing is certain, had the Reformation not taken place, we would still be driving ox carts, because the religionists have held mankind back with their violent hateful dogmatic religious beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74286682


I'm def not a religiontard with scriptures and stuff, see my old thread:
Thread: (Bible) God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs

... but I am open minded and 'do AND don't' believe in multiple options ;)

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Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson.

Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life.

Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective.

In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records.

His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories.

Dr. Stevenson has devoted the last forty years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world. He has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.

Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia.

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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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You are misquoting apostle Paul.
27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,
 Quoting: Hebrews 9


The precept behind reincarnation is that the soul or spirit, after biological death, begins a new life in a new body.

This can be compared to light traveling from one medium to another. The light does not cease to exist, it just moves on from one medium to another.

Christ makes it clear that there is a difference between the death of the body and the death of the soul:

28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
 Quoting: Matthew 10


Clearly, apostle Paul refers to the death of the soul (and not the physical body) which happens only once in a person's existence, when his cycle of reincarnation is ended by God.

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Where you go astray is when you separate us from God. We all are God. God is not a being. God is infinite consciousness. There is no emotion. No right. No wrong. No start. No end. Infinite consciousness just is.
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After following a thread with some 'feel bad' energy surrounding it.... letting (lost) people think that dead is dead , as if it's all useless to exist here... it feels GREAT to see my old thread again, feeling better now :)

sun
 Quoting: Army-of-Souls



Cool, here's a gift for you.

Though not exactly 100% accurate.

We're spirits(mind). The artificial spirit is the soul.

So in the following replace soul with spirit.

Bolded is the important part.


The Apocryphon of John Collection
(The Secret Revelation of John - The Secret Book of John)

Six Questions about the Soul

I asked the Savior, “Lord, will every soul be saved and enter the pure light?”

He replied, “You are asking an important question, one it will be impossible to answer for anyone who is not a member of the unmoved race. They are the people upon whom the Spirit of Life will descend and the power will enable them to be saved and to become perfect and worthy of greatness. They expunge evil from themselves and they will care nothing for wickedness, wanting only that which is not corrupt. They will achieve freedom from rage, envy, jealousy, desire, or craving.”

“The physical body will negatively effect them. They wear it as they look forward to the time when they will meet up with those who will remove it. Those people deserve indestructible eternal life. They endure everything, bearing up under everything that happens so that they can deserve the good and inherit life eternal.”

Then I asked him, “Lord, what about the souls who didn’t do these things even though the Spirit of Life’s power descended on them?“

He answered, “If the Spirit descends to people they will be transformed and saved. The power descends on everyone and, without it, no one can even stand up. After they are born, if the Spirit of Life increases in them, power comes to them and their souls are strengthened. Nothing then can leave them astray into wickedness. But if the artificial spirit comes into people, it leads them astray.”

Then I said, “Lord, when souls come out of the flesh where do they go?”

He replied, smiling, “If the soul is strong it has more of power than it has of the artificial spirit and so it flees from wickedness. With the assistance of the Incorruptible One that soul is saved and it attains eternal rest.”

I then asked him, “Lord, what of the souls of the people who do not know whose people they are? Where do they go?”

He responded, “In those people the artificial spirit has grown strong and they have gone astray. Their souls are burdened, drawn to wickedness, and cast into forgetfulness.”


“When they come forth from the body, such a soul is given over to the powers created by the rulers, bound in chains, and cast into prison again. Around and around it goes until it manages to become free from forgetfulness through knowledge. And so, eventually, it becomes perfect and is saved.”


Then I asked, “Lord, how does the soul shrink down so as to be able to enter its mother or a man?

He was happy that I asked this and said, “You are truly blessed because you have understood. The soul should be guided by another within whom is the Spirit of Life. It will be saved by that means and accordingly will not have to enter a body again.

And I said, “Lord, what happens to the souls of people who achieved true knowledge, but who turned away from it?”

He said to me, “Demons of poverty will take them to a place where there is no possibility of repentance. There they will stay until the time when those who blasphemed against the spirit will be tortured and subjected to punishment forever.”

I asked, “Lord, where did the artificial spirit come from?”

And he told me:




Doesn't have anymore than that. But the artificial spirit comes from

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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No. Jesus Himself speaks of reincarnation. Read The Word carefully. Also, Google is your friend ;-)
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Reincarnation stories or experiences are nothing more than demons putting these thoughts into people's minds. Why you ask? Because Satan wants you to believe that you have many, many chances. If you screw up in this life or are very bad (think ISIS) you'll have plenty of chances in the next life. God's word says differently: Hebrews 9:27......And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.
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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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ofcourse.this doctor seems a hindu biiitch...why dont we remember our past lives?
all the Gods messanger gave one message that we have one life than are judged never to return to earth again but live in some other dimension for eternity
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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

scream
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ofcourse.this doctor seems a hindu biiitch...why dont we remember our past lives?
all the Gods messanger gave one message that we have one life than are judged never to return to earth again but live in some other dimension for eternity
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Just one life. Just one chance. It is up to you in what to believe
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After following a thread with some 'feel bad' energy surrounding it.... letting (lost) people think that dead is dead , as if it's all useless to exist here... it feels GREAT to see my old thread again, feeling better now :)

sun
 Quoting: Army-of-Souls



Cool, here's a gift for you.

Though not exactly 100% accurate.

We're spirits(mind). The artificial spirit is the soul.

So in the following replace soul with spirit.

Bolded is the important part.


The Apocryphon of John Collection
(The Secret Revelation of John - The Secret Book of John)

Six Questions about the Soul

I asked the Savior, “Lord, will every soul be saved and enter the pure light?”

He replied, “You are asking an important question, one it will be impossible to answer for anyone who is not a member of the unmoved race. They are the people upon whom the Spirit of Life will descend and the power will enable them to be saved and to become perfect and worthy of greatness. They expunge evil from themselves and they will care nothing for wickedness, wanting only that which is not corrupt. They will achieve freedom from rage, envy, jealousy, desire, or craving.”

“The physical body will negatively effect them. They wear it as they look forward to the time when they will meet up with those who will remove it. Those people deserve indestructible eternal life. They endure everything, bearing up under everything that happens so that they can deserve the good and inherit life eternal.”

Then I asked him, “Lord, what about the souls who didn’t do these things even though the Spirit of Life’s power descended on them?“

He answered, “If the Spirit descends to people they will be transformed and saved. The power descends on everyone and, without it, no one can even stand up. After they are born, if the Spirit of Life increases in them, power comes to them and their souls are strengthened. Nothing then can leave them astray into wickedness. But if the artificial spirit comes into people, it leads them astray.”

Then I said, “Lord, when souls come out of the flesh where do they go?”

He replied, smiling, “If the soul is strong it has more of power than it has of the artificial spirit and so it flees from wickedness. With the assistance of the Incorruptible One that soul is saved and it attains eternal rest.”

I then asked him, “Lord, what of the souls of the people who do not know whose people they are? Where do they go?”

He responded, “In those people the artificial spirit has grown strong and they have gone astray. Their souls are burdened, drawn to wickedness, and cast into forgetfulness.”


“When they come forth from the body, such a soul is given over to the powers created by the rulers, bound in chains, and cast into prison again. Around and around it goes until it manages to become free from forgetfulness through knowledge. And so, eventually, it becomes perfect and is saved.”


Then I asked, “Lord, how does the soul shrink down so as to be able to enter its mother or a man?

He was happy that I asked this and said, “You are truly blessed because you have understood. The soul should be guided by another within whom is the Spirit of Life. It will be saved by that means and accordingly will not have to enter a body again.

And I said, “Lord, what happens to the souls of people who achieved true knowledge, but who turned away from it?”

He said to me, “Demons of poverty will take them to a place where there is no possibility of repentance. There they will stay until the time when those who blasphemed against the spirit will be tortured and subjected to punishment forever.”

I asked, “Lord, where did the artificial spirit come from?”

And he told me:




Doesn't have anymore than that. But the artificial spirit comes from

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75173370



be wary of any belief system that threatens "eternal" punishment with NO hope of redemption.

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Well, lets try this again since my other post was deleted. Guess it did't fit the agenda. Hebrew's 9:27 states that it is appointed for man to die once, then comes judgement. All of the stories of past lives esp. by children are thoughts placed in their minds by Satan to decieve. He wants you to think that you have many, many chances to go to heaven. You have one chance.......that's it. Jesus is the way and it's a one time shot. Those reincarnation stories that people tell are true, it's just that they didn't experience it themselves. Those experiences were placed into their brains by demons.
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I've read half this thread and I must say,
The closed mindedness of the religioustards is quite astounding.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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wondering if people have changed from 'believing in reincarnation' to 'not believing' after some years or the opposite...

hf
 Quoting: Army-of-Souls

Opposite for me.

Like most Christians, I was TOLD that Reincarnation was not Biblical.

After seeing verse after verse showing the opposite, I changed my position...

Thread: The Official "Reincarnation is Biblical" Thread

and...

Thread: Biblical 'Lake of Fire' is Actually a Portal to Moloch AKA... REINCARNATION!

and...

Thread: Why is Life so Unjust? - the Law of Reincarnation

I will be reading this thread for sure.

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Fake.And gay. Mostly fake but a lot of gay.
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Hebrew's 9:27 states that it is appointed for man to die once, then comes judgement.
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Yeah and?

All that verse is saying is that once One dies, they must immediately face judgement.

In other words, One cannot live as many lives as they wish, doing all kinds of nasty things, and escape judgement every time.

If Humans only died once, then God is a liar when he speaks of the Second Death...

So many verses about a "Second Death"...

Revelation 2:11
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death"

Revelation 20:6
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years"

Revelation 20:14
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death"

Revelation 21:8
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death"


Yet the parrots proclaim...

"There is only one death!"

SS-bigdummy
 Quoting: Base12

And what about those that never died?

Did God lie there too?

The word makes it clear that you live once, die once, are judged, then move on to whatever is next for you....heaven or hell.
 Quoting: Baloney

So clear?

What is clear is that there are no mistakes and no contradictions in the KJV.

However, according to your teachings, the Bible is in error when it shows a verse breaking the rules...

Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God"


Enoch never died. So much for the "live once, die once" rule.

So how does the Church handle this contradiction?

Rather than admitting their mistake, they begin to make up lies...

"Oh well, you know... Enoch was an exception to the rule obviously".

What verse is that?

What about Lazarus and the countless others Jesus raised from the dead...

John 11:43-44
"And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth"

"And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go"


But... we only die once right?

"Oh well.. you know... the Bible is full of mistakes and contradictions..."

Pffft.

What a shame.

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Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson.

Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life.

Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective.

In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records.

His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories.

Dr. Stevenson has devoted the last forty years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world. He has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.

Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia.

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]


 Quoting: Army-of-Souls


So this doc is showing the physical body of the past spirit dweller is also manifesting the cause of death marks from the old body in the new body with birth marks in relatively the same location.

No one recognized the resurrected Jesus Christ by face. They had to hear Him and see the scars to see it was Him. Resurrected/reincarnated from man to man yet apparently not the same face and body frame to garner immediate recognition from His beloved followers.

John 20:15 says:

He asked her, "Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?" Thinking he was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him."

No recognition here.

Then John 20:17 He is reported as saying He has not ascended to the Father, implying He is reincarnated.

Then further on up says He's here to send the Holy Spirit and we're all here to basically forgive and when we do that their transgressions are forgiven. If we don't they are not. He seems to be saying it is up to us as reincarnated entities that the power of forgiveness is in our hands and the Holy Spirit helps us to do that and overcome the feeling of not wanting to forgive some one or some group.

John 20:25 says this:

So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe."

John 20:27 says this:

Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
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If you take just one birth in a physical body then why are you attracted to the physical world like a magnet? Why doesn’t everything seem completely alien to you?

Why is your consciousness not divine? Is the divine so weak that it gets almost completely lost in one short birth in the physical realm?
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I've done a lot of thinking about this for many years. Really soul searching. I'm certain that we (or some of us) have been here before; I've known it since I was a child.

I used to think it was a good thing. I was excited about death, the thought of jumping into the next existence with new places, people and experiences. But lately, I've come to the realization that coming back over and over is a kind of curse, not to mention a huge gamble on where you would end up.

I'm kind of over this place.. but sadly, I know in my heart that due to the universal law of constant change and evolution, heading to the afterlife to chill out for a "while" isn't much better and its not permanent.

Face it: once you exist, you exist, and you have to keep evolving with the universe. Whether we come back for another round on planet hell-hole, or we kick up our feet in some in-between place, we will have to keep going. There's no easy way out. No exit, so to speak.

I came to the conclusion that no matter how disappointed I am in this life, I still have to try. Wishing to go to "heaven" someday or even come back for a nicer existence is futile. You have to make the best of what you are given now and keep evolving. It never stops.

That's the crazy part.
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good to see it discussed again..

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You all can argue until you're blue in the face.

reincarnation...

If that is what you wish, then you will be reincarnated. If you believe that you will go to heaven, you will go to heaven. If you believe you will go to hell, then you will go to hell. If you believe you will reincarnate into a cat or any animal, you will. If you believe you'll become a woman after being a man, you will... so many wills... so many things. Just like so many animal and plant species on earth or in the universe. It's diverse.

So many beliefs... it's important to remember not to let the entities after death sway you with your beliefs. They're there to recycle you back to the earth as the best as they can. They cannot tolerate free hosts.. or souls or spirits.. whatever you want to call it...

If you become free, you become a god of your own universe.

I know

It sucks.. it cannot be proven...

it sucks.

whatever
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It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67517099

The man physical, may only live once but the spirit aspect of who we are lives on, and is reborn.

You have clearly been brain washed by false religious interpretations. IE Satan. lol
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After 2 years of starting this thread, I didn't change my beliefs much..
you can say 'what's the point of returning to life here if our memory is erased anyway?'... but I believe there is a 'higher self' so it makes perfect sense to me after all, but you can't evaluate all lives and experiences from "here"...

With other words... if you was person 'A' and you're now person 'B', how is it possible that some psychic can have contact with deceased person 'A' after years with physical family for example when you already had reincarnated again ?

That's only possible when there is a higher copy of yourself that remains at the 'other side' while on this side, you've had and has multiple lives to experience in a row till you've reached some sort of completion.

between lives here on earth, you're probably aware of all those experiences in that other place but here, you're not, so you can't influence your experiences and choices because of your previous 'lives'.

hard to explain, I know.
just thinking out loud...

it would be a waste of time to live once because it just doesn't make sense if a man never have experienced the life of a woman for example and the opposite as well.... you wouldn't have lived "life" fully, you would have missed a lot of experiences which are impossible to experience in just 1 life.

just my 2 cents.

by the way... why is there hate ? because without hate, you wouldn't identify love.... you need opposites to experience something..... without light, you wouldn't recognise darkness.... without opposites, you wouldn't experience... so to have a world without hate, without violence etc IS possible, if you have experienced it somewhere in the past.... so you go through multiple lives till you've experienced it all, so you'll be ready for a place (wanna call it heaven? I'm okay with that) without trouble, but now you can truly be happy because you have experienced hellish times as well, without those opposite experiences, you would take 'heaven' for granted, there would be no reason to really love it, you have to earn it trough experiences.

I've also noticed that people rate threads with reincarnation theories much higher than bible threads, it seems that reincarnation resonates much more with a lot of people, it seems to make much more sense than the 'live once > face judgement' theory, they always end up with a 2 star thread rating.. unless the bible was interpreted in a way that reincarnation is a part of it. without it, it just doesn't 'feel' right for a lot of people, unfair so to speak.

some points how I see it:
-religion is a big problem. truth is mixed with lies. it divides people and makes people fear (demons etc) and fight eachother (religion vs religion instead of seeing eachother as equals and one)
- it stops evolution, not sparking the divine in yourself, being dependent, conditioned to obey to a leader, hoping that problems will be solved by someone else.
- love is not only preserved for christians or any other religion.
- keypoints to proove that a religion is right after all from any book is no proove at all, it's already written, like an agenda so it will be caried out so the sheep fall for it again and again and say 'see! exactly as it was written!" duh!
- strong mechanism in place because "they" know people would eventually wake up around a certain period because of hidden knowledge: "don't be fooled , many will deceive you in end times" .

If we would realise we're all one on a spiritual journey to get the greater picture, we would love eachother as one and would realize who the real enemy is, it's not people from other religions, you would know who the real enemy is.

you wont live once, you cannot experience all of life in one lesson , how can you judge woman if you are a man and the opposite. would it feel fair to YOU ?
Don't rely completely on 'thinking' but feel in your heart, thinking and feeling goes hand in hand, we're conditioned to rely on thinking. (illusions are a good example, your mind is tricked, stop thinking, start feeling from the heart, if you feel love in your heart, great, that has nothing to do with jesus, that has something to do with love)

nobody is forced to believe me but reincarnation makes sure you will experience different parts of life so you wont experience a bit but a lot of it till you're ready to evolve. The big lie make you go to your personal hell (you will start this duality hell again, right here and you was so hoping to get off this place eventually, big fail, you're stuck like an elevator who stays on the same floor life after life till you learn something in this physical place)
..but I respect your choices, it's your journey, not mine, I will not fight you with namecalling or disrespect you, just wake up, don't believe anything I say, search yourself from deep within..search your heart, the answer is already in you, just find it.

people want a physical proof of god, but refuse to see one of the gods when they open their curtains. yes, it's one of them, like many others.

people that slam your head with scriptures like to take the bible literally, but they almost never show you these:

Exodus 35:2 :
- For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

Deut 21:18-21 :
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel will hear, and be afraid.

Leviticus 20:13 :
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.
If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.


Can you call this 'love'?
These scriptures are almost NEVER discussed and it doesn't matter which version of a bible you'll check for those verses (KJV or others), the message stays the same of those scriptures mentioned above. Also don't let them tell you that it's the old testament and you should read the new testament because:

"Jesus saw the Old Testament as being God’s Word, and his attitude toward it was nothing less than total trust. Many people want to accept Jesus, yet they reject a large portion of the Old Testament. Either Jesus knew what he was talking about, or he didn’t. If a person believes in Jesus Christ, he should be consistent and believe that the Old Testament and its accounts are correct."

so what do you believe ?

I don't claim to know the truth, but I'm open for discussion while many many people just slam your head with scriptures as an answer and call you satan for thinking otherwise (not all Christian people, but many do).

siren2 siren2 siren2

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After some years have passed since I started this topic, I understand now why I was suddenly interested in anything about reincarnation...

It was probably to have some 'piece of mind' after some life changing events on a personal level, when looking back AFTERWARDS!

My daughter died (physically) on Februari 23, 2017, she was braindead on Februari 22, 2017 (born on september 19, 2016. She had a bad heart condition.
I also encountered a lot of synchronicities on clocks by seeing the number 22 ALL the time when I unconsciously looked at it, before this all had happened.

After 15 months, her little sister was born on April 30, 2018.

A quote: "The median average time between death and birth is about 15 months. That suggests there’s about six months between death and conception."
Source: [link to www.lionsroar.com (secure)]
(I knew this from another source, but can't find it right now)

Anyway... I begged at the grave of my passed daughter to let the birth begin of her little sister on that particular day, because of problems during pregnancy...
Some hours later , an ECG showed heart rate problems inside the belly, which was unexpected and they decided to run through the hallways to make them all ready for delivery....
If we didn't had the ECG that day, we had to wait 3 more weeks.

What I want to say is that I 'know' what happened, so for me personally, the proof was delivered. Many coincidences happened that I haven't even told yet that strengthened my belief about this.
I had to post this in my own old thread!
I will tell more about the too many coincidences to be a coincidence later!! Even "The Grumpier" from GLP played a role!

Greetings and love,

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