More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? | |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? #1 reason!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59545764 There's only one true worship and that is to worship God in spirit and in a Truth, and nobody can find God without being justified by faith that Jesus came as God in the flesh to die for our sins, since we all know we have a heep full of sins. Everything else is just to throw you off, and the devil is the master of deception....he can and will use anything he can to deceive people,and without the spirit nobody will do right so the world is fried by nature and religion just goes into it....everybody need something to worship Thanks! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Ms. Superduper User ID: 66859621 United States 01/31/2015 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? I've always hated religion and the Bible says that God does too. I still don't like that spirit of religion. Quoting: Ms. Superduper I met Jesus in the 12 steps. The religious people sent Jesus to the cross, but he still won. He's alive and his Spirit is all Powerful. I love Him. So, maybe I'll go back to the poll now. Too complicated. I prefer to keep things simple so I'll just leave my post as is. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? I've always hated religion and the Bible says that God does too. I still don't like that spirit of religion. Quoting: Ms. Superduper I met Jesus in the 12 steps. The religious people sent Jesus to the cross, but he still won. He's alive and his Spirit is all Powerful. I love Him. So, maybe I'll go back to the poll now. Thanks for your Post!!! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? I've always hated religion and the Bible says that God does too. I still don't like that spirit of religion. Quoting: Ms. Superduper I met Jesus in the 12 steps. The religious people sent Jesus to the cross, but he still won. He's alive and his Spirit is all Powerful. I love Him. So, maybe I'll go back to the poll now. Too complicated. I prefer to keep things simple so I'll just leave my post as is. Thanks for your honesty! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
stillhere User ID: 29204297 United States 01/31/2015 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? There is as much "wrong doing" in the Christian churches (not all 100%) by their members and Clergy. Every educated person should read the Bible and every person the new testament. For even if a person does not believe it 100% there is much good and truth that can benefit a society, people and families. Having read it myself, free will is essential to our growth, and it is my belief that Jesus, or God does not "Control" the Christian Church 100% There is much power with the Holy Spirit, and it seems obvious why governments would be opposed as they want/need to be served first. It is a conflict of interest. There are "Bad" people and governments everywhere, but that does not make everyone involved "bad" either. Generalizing does no one any favors. The "truth" is the truth regardless of who believes it. Someday the condition of your soul will (God willing) be considered simple science. The simple science of Positive vs Negative, or Love vs Fear, knock and the door will be opened.... "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Do you see any value to an organization of religion? How would you find out about spirituality without a infrastructure of some type? Did anyone tell you how to approach your spirituality or did you discover it all on your own? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
DGN User ID: 66355714 United States 01/31/2015 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? 'Religion' is supposed to scripturaly educate people so they would control their own selves and live by the Golden Rule, protecting the rights and human dignity of all, to ensure civilization. However it has been used to fleece the flock with hellfire threats which their clientele must bribe their way out of when the plate is pa$$ed. "And who is adequately qualified for these things? 17 [We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." 2Cor2;16 |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Being spiritual, believing in "God" whatever that means beyond just spiritual, and organized "Religion" are very different. Quoting: stillhere There is as much "wrong doing" in the Christian churches (not all 100%) by their members and Clergy. Every educated person should read the Bible and every person the new testament. For even if a person does not believe it 100% there is much good and truth that can benefit a society, people and families. Having read it myself, free will is essential to our growth, and it is my belief that Jesus, or God does not "Control" the Christian Church 100% There is much power with the Holy Spirit, and it seems obvious why governments would be opposed as they want/need to be served first. It is a conflict of interest. There are "Bad" people and governments everywhere, but that does not make everyone involved "bad" either. Generalizing does no one any favors. The "truth" is the truth regardless of who believes it. Someday the condition of your soul will (God willing) be considered simple science. The simple science of Positive vs Negative, or Love vs Fear, knock and the door will be opened.... There is wisdom in your comments! Thanks!! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66652212 United Kingdom 01/31/2015 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The result of 43% makes me happy, it shows people are waking up and those dominating bibletards are a small group after all which are barking way to loud. Quoting: Army-of-Souls This. I get the impression, from reading the threads on here, that the majority of the posters, Americans in particular, are full on, you'll burn in hell if you don't believe the same as me, religious zealots. That poll result, assuming it's real as I've not seen the actual poll, gives me reason to think maybe you lot aren't all fucking mental after all :) Obviously, of that 12%, there will be a large percentage (probably a large majority if the poll result to dominating bibletard post ratio is anything to go by) that still believe in their religion and their version of God, without wanting to ram it down everybody else's throats. Believing in live and let live over convert or burn. So it'd be even more interesting to me to see the breakdown of that 12%. Yes, bible bashers, I'm going to burn in hell. I know all about it... |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? OK. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? 'Religion' is supposed to scripturaly educate people so they would control their own selves and live by the Golden Rule, protecting the rights and human dignity of all, to ensure civilization. However it has been used to fleece the flock with hellfire threats which their clientele must bribe their way out of when the plate is pa$$ed. Quoting: DGN "And who is adequately qualified for these things? 17 [We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." 2Cor2;16 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Thanks! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66652212 United Kingdom 01/31/2015 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The result of 43% makes me happy, it shows people are waking up and those dominating bibletards are a small group after all which are barking way to loud. Quoting: Army-of-Souls This. I get the impression, from reading the threads on here, that the majority of the posters, Americans in particular, are full on, you'll burn in hell if you don't believe the same as me, religious zealots. That poll result, assuming it's real as I've not seen the actual poll, gives me reason to think maybe you lot aren't all fucking mental after all :) Obviously, of that 12%, there will be a large percentage (probably a large majority if the poll result to dominating bibletard post ratio is anything to go by) that still believe in their religion and their version of God, without wanting to ram it down everybody else's throats. Believing in live and let live over convert or burn. So it'd be even more interesting to me to see the breakdown of that 12%. Yes, bible bashers, I'm going to burn in hell. I know all about it... Just read my post back and noticed my AC number |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The result of 43% makes me happy, it shows people are waking up and those dominating bibletards are a small group after all which are barking way to loud. Quoting: Army-of-Souls This. I get the impression, from reading the threads on here, that the majority of the posters, Americans in particular, are full on, you'll burn in hell if you don't believe the same as me, religious zealots. That poll result, assuming it's real as I've not seen the actual poll, gives me reason to think maybe you lot aren't all fucking mental after all :) Obviously, of that 12%, there will be a large percentage (probably a large majority if the poll result to dominating bibletard post ratio is anything to go by) that still believe in their religion and their version of God, without wanting to ram it down everybody else's throats. Believing in live and let live over convert or burn. So it'd be even more interesting to me to see the breakdown of that 12%. Yes, bible bashers, I'm going to burn in hell. I know all about it... Interesting insight! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45850088 United States 01/31/2015 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The Bible is God's law book for mankind however, it has nothing to do with religion. Religion is man-made just as the organized corporate churches. Only the elect of God will come to spiritual understanding and will flee the churches of false doctrines. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45850088 And who do you think these elect are and how will they know they are elect? Without the infrastructure that printed the bibles and other study material you would not be able to say what you just said!! The OT believers were kept in reserve waiting on the promise ( The Cross ), read Romans 1:18-22. Prior to the Bible being completed God spoke through his prophets to the people and the one's who had spiritual ears to hear were qualified to receive salvation at God's appointed time. No one can come to the Father unless God draws his ( means to drag ). God also says none of his sheep will be loss and that his sheep will hear his voice and will not follow a stranger. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The result of 43% makes me happy, it shows people are waking up and those dominating bibletards are a small group after all which are barking way to loud. Quoting: Army-of-Souls This. I get the impression, from reading the threads on here, that the majority of the posters, Americans in particular, are full on, you'll burn in hell if you don't believe the same as me, religious zealots. That poll result, assuming it's real as I've not seen the actual poll, gives me reason to think maybe you lot aren't all fucking mental after all :) Obviously, of that 12%, there will be a large percentage (probably a large majority if the poll result to dominating bibletard post ratio is anything to go by) that still believe in their religion and their version of God, without wanting to ram it down everybody else's throats. Believing in live and let live over convert or burn. So it'd be even more interesting to me to see the breakdown of that 12%. Yes, bible bashers, I'm going to burn in hell. I know all about it... Just read my post back and noticed my AC number You have obviously been approved by the management! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? The Bible is God's law book for mankind however, it has nothing to do with religion. Religion is man-made just as the organized corporate churches. Only the elect of God will come to spiritual understanding and will flee the churches of false doctrines. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45850088 And who do you think these elect are and how will they know they are elect? Without the infrastructure that printed the bibles and other study material you would not be able to say what you just said!! The OT believers were kept in reserve waiting on the promise ( The Cross ), read Romans 1:18-22. Prior to the Bible being completed God spoke through his prophets to the people and the one's who had spiritual ears to hear were qualified to receive salvation at God's appointed time. No one can come to the Father unless God draws his ( means to drag ). God also says none of his sheep will be loss and that his sheep will hear his voice and will not follow a stranger. You did not answer my question. Without the infrastructure that printed the bible and other study materials how would you know you were elect? You believe God would talk to you personally and you would have no need of the printed scriptures? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? There is always a 3% margin of error in polls so approximately 60% of glp voters think religion is not used to control people, now that's pretty amazing news, don't ya think?! Quoting: Endure 67517035 Possibly, one can deduce many things form polls but absolute science it is not!! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? POLL: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? 1) Common sense 33.0% (37) 6) Pure deductive logic and inductive reasoning 13.4% (15) 12) Abuses, excesses and crimes by clergy and religious institutions 9.8% (11) 9) Personal Rebellion, situational ethics, desire to ignore or avoid moral accountability 8.0% (9) 10) Satan and his minions 8.0% (9) 5) Lack of spiritual insight 7.1% (8) 3) Historical research and comments from blogs and forums 5.4% (6) 2) Negative personal experiences including abuse at some level 4.5% (5) 11) Religious hypocrisy from believers 4.5% (5) 4) Lack of religious training or knowledge 2.7% (3) 7) Believing the theory of evolution, natural selection & secular humanism 2.7% (3) 8) Easy access to new beliefs, ideas and the freedom to adopt them 0.9% (1) Blank (View Results) (20) Non-Blank Votes: 112 Last Edited by George B on 01/31/2015 02:31 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5378239 United States 01/31/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? So both. I however do have Christ in my life. I have this through my own spiritual journey. I came to Him by my own conclusion, not what some dude told me... So, in short, you have to look and see if it jives with your own convictipns, not some other dudes. Sry if off topic. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66416405 United States 01/31/2015 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Quoting: George B 1) Common sense 2) Negative personal experiences including abuse at some level 3) Historical research and comments from blogs and forums 4) Lack of religious training or knowledge 5) Lack of spiritual insight 6) Pure deductive logic and inductive reasoning 7) Believing the theory of evolution, natural selection & secular humanism 8) Easy access to new beliefs, ideas and the freedom to adopt them 9) Personal Rebellion, situational ethics, desire to ignore or avoid moral accountability 10) Satan and his minions 11) Religious hypocrisy from believers 12) Abuses, excesses and crimes by clergy and religious institutions :racist5: |
Dog Wayne User ID: 63656009 United States 01/31/2015 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Do you see any value to an organization of religion? How would you find out about spirituality without a infrastructure of some type? Did anyone tell you how to approach your spirituality or did you discover it all on your own? And here enters the American Indian...next question "The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering" -Me |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59376098 United States 01/31/2015 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: More than 43% of GLP voters think Religion is used to control people while only 12% think it is about God!! Why? Organized religion is a tool of control. If a man is telling you what to dp in the name of _______, you absolutely must look into why. Generally people need to have something too look up to, its lonely at the top of the chain. When you bring the abusive nature of man into the fold, it can quickly turn into a sham. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5378239 So both. I however do have Christ in my life. I have this through my own spiritual journey. I came to Him by my own conclusion, not what some dude told me... So, in short, you have to look and see if it jives with your own convictipns, not some other dudes. Sry if off topic. :) Question? Did you read the Bible? If so, was this the source of your revelation? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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