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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52985835 United States 01/31/2015 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar: they all know it exists Quoting: OP 67523651 ancient records say it....now science is finally catching up wake up people it is real my own personal opinion and beliefs not in the articles listed do not put words in my mouth and do not assume I can believe whatever the fuck I want to It is my right to do so I wish I could punch people over the internet i love my wife so much, i tattood her name on my dick. i thought it would make her happy, but i was wrong. she said she would really appreciate if i didn't try to put words in her mouth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60657145 United States 01/31/2015 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Except that it proves that the idiot scientists who claimed that there could be no Planet X because it would have been found by now are full of shit. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67523651 United States 01/31/2015 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar: they all know it exists Quoting: OP 67523651 ancient records say it....now science is finally catching up wake up people it is real my own personal opinion and beliefs not in the articles listed do not put words in my mouth and do not assume I can believe whatever the fuck I want to It is my right to do so I wish I could punch people over the internet i love my wife so much, i tattood her name on my dick. i thought it would make her happy, but i was wrong. she said she would really appreciate if i didn't try to put words in her mouth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67523651 United States 01/31/2015 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Except that it proves that the idiot scientists who claimed that there could be no Planet X because it would have been found by now are full of shit. GOOD POINT |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 01/31/2015 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Except that it proves that the idiot scientists who claimed that there could be no Planet X because it would have been found by now are full of shit. What "idiot scientists who claimed there could be no Planet X?" |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 01/31/2015 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro can accept change, and that sometimes things that have been said were said to support a known model within science and that in light of new evidence, he is wrong. Quoting: Dark_Matter I'm willing to accept if something proves me wrong, but I'm not willing to accept those who falsely claim that I said there can be "no planet X." They try to take my debunkings of false "doomy" planet X's such as ridiculous claims about filter flares near the sun and other such nonsense and apply it as a denial of legitimate scientific hypotheses. I've quoted multiple posts I've made over the years stating that sizable planets could exist in the solar system at sufficiently large distances. The research that was just published (but has been known about publicly for close to a year now), which the OP's article poorly describes as a third hand source, does not really seek to constrain the parameters of what could exist, it seeks to determine whether the Kozai mechanism could constrain the orbital elements of extreme trans-neptunian objects as seen. It does work as a mechanism, as it turns out. Other research from astronomers like Lorenzo Iorio seeks to constrain the parameters of any such undiscovered planet and I've referred to that work for years now. So when people claim that I've been saying a planet X could not exist that is simply a lie. |
Exorcise This User ID: 66273997 United States 01/31/2015 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50388084 United States 01/31/2015 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Wow, even when AstroShill is wrong, he is still right. Must be nice. The things haven't even been discovered, let alone their orbits defined, and already you are covering your bases. lol Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67523651 United States 01/31/2015 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their orbits aren't anywhere near earth, so they can't be Planet X. They would never have any effect on earth Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66478455 The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Wow, even when AstroShill is wrong, he is still right. Must be nice. The things haven't even been discovered, let alone their orbits defined, and already you are covering your bases. lol Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! the majority of these articles came out around 1-10-2015... and since then no more info has been released... now THAT i find a tad strange. 20 days and no updates? |
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Birkeland User ID: 6621429 United States 01/31/2015 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a book somewere around here called the search for planet x that i have had close to 40 years and it was about pluto Quoting: bugkiller Astronomers have searched for bodies in our system going back hundreds of years. From the inside out they are Vulcan the intra-Mercurial planet, Mercury's moon, Neith the lost moon of Venus, the Earth's second moon, the moon's of Mars, the 14th moon of Jupiter, two new moons of Saturn, New moons of Uranus, New moons of Pluto, since they discovered the perturbed orbits in the outer solar system that didn't follow Keplers law of celestial mechanics, the search for planet x . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50388084 United States 01/31/2015 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Wow, even when AstroShill is wrong, he is still right. Must be nice. The things haven't even been discovered, let alone their orbits defined, and already you are covering your bases. lol Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! the majority of these articles came out around 1-10-2015... and since then no more info has been released... now THAT i find a tad strange. 20 days and no updates? If you consider the fucking garbage pics and all SAT cameras offline... Skeptics are justified and they still continue to pull images / alter information. How many grainy lie pics can one take? Ben from SuspiciousObservers is even calling them out along with many others. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 01/31/2015 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro The nutjob definition of planet X is very different from actual scientists' definition of planet X. And this is now where the two collide. OP hears planet X and thinks one thing but science actually means something else entirely. And it's a poorly written article, they haven't found it, they just suspect it's there due to clustering of the inclination and arguments of perihelion of extreme trans-neptunian objects far out in the solar system. It's not even the same evidence or theory that was suggested in earlier versions of the planet X theory. Wow, even when AstroShill is wrong, he is still right. Must be nice. The things haven't even been discovered, let alone their orbits defined, and already you are covering your bases. lol Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! the majority of these articles came out around 1-10-2015... and since then no more info has been released... now THAT i find a tad strange. 20 days and no updates? Dude, this info is not that new, this is just a rehash of information we've known for a long time now. [link to arxiv.org] Iorio even published an updated version of his paper constraining the distance/mass function of possible planet X configurations. [link to arxiv.org] You expect them to find the hypothesized planets in 20 days? Have you even read the research paper these articles are all based on? Yes, there is a huge difference between it and some lunatic on GLP claiming planet X is next to the sun because he saw a lens flare on his phone. It's also much harder to find the real thing if it exists because it would be so far away and sunlight at that distance would be very dim. Go figure. |
Birkeland User ID: 6621429 United States 01/31/2015 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you consider the fucking garbage pics and all SAT cameras offline... Skeptics are justified and they still continue to pull images / alter information. How many grainy lie pics can one take? Ben from SuspiciousObservers is even calling them out along with many others. The Electric Universe has 'arrived', the gas-lamp era is winding down and that crowd is biting, scratching, clawing, shrilling and snarling all the way down! It's gonna be an interesting year! 5 stars OP! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67523651 United States 01/31/2015 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3176915 Wow, even when AstroShill is wrong, he is still right. Must be nice. The things haven't even been discovered, let alone their orbits defined, and already you are covering your bases. lol Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! the majority of these articles came out around 1-10-2015... and since then no more info has been released... now THAT i find a tad strange. 20 days and no updates? Dude, this info is not that new, this is just a rehash of information we've known for a long time now. [link to arxiv.org] Iorio even published an updated version of his paper constraining the distance/mass function of possible planet X configurations. [link to arxiv.org] You expect them to find the hypothesized planets in 20 days? Have you even read the research paper these articles are all based on? Yes, there is a huge difference between it and some lunatic on GLP claiming planet X is next to the sun because he saw a lens flare on his phone. It's also much harder to find the real thing if it exists because it would be so far away and sunlight at that distance would be very dim. Go figure. of course not but i do expect some sort of standard press release with the data collected thus far i do not expect them to find it in 20 days...but I do expect them to release the data they have thus far collected |
moses787 User ID: 67015446 United States 01/31/2015 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ Himself said that He was sending his special star to bring great devastation upon the Earth soon!! And He says that it is "in-bound and coming at His precise time"!! And at that time, He will strike great horror upon the nations of the Earth, especially the new world order elites, who won't actually know how He will break the huge pieces up and scatter them like pool balls on certain parts of the Earth to wipe many of them out and bring down His great wrath upon them!! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67523651 United States 01/31/2015 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ Himself said that He was sending his special star to bring great devastation upon the Earth soon!! And He says that it is "in-bound and coming at His precise time"!! And at that time, He will strike great horror upon the nations of the Earth, especially the new world order elites, who won't actually know how He will break the huge pieces up and scatter them like pool balls on certain parts of the Earth to wipe many of them out and bring down His great wrath upon them!! Quoting: moses787 YOU UNDERSTAND!!! HOORAY!!!!!!! pleased to have you aboard my friend i look forward to meeting you on the other side. :) |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 01/31/2015 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50388084 Phil Plait or JPL can claim two Planet X exist and they are genius.... Someone on GLP can claim the belief that Planet X is real and they are called "nutters" by Astro. Go figure!!! I know one thing... My money will never be with the Nazi Luciferians at NASA JPL <<<<< and that is a fact jack!!!! the majority of these articles came out around 1-10-2015... and since then no more info has been released... now THAT i find a tad strange. 20 days and no updates? Dude, this info is not that new, this is just a rehash of information we've known for a long time now. [link to arxiv.org] Iorio even published an updated version of his paper constraining the distance/mass function of possible planet X configurations. [link to arxiv.org] You expect them to find the hypothesized planets in 20 days? Have you even read the research paper these articles are all based on? Yes, there is a huge difference between it and some lunatic on GLP claiming planet X is next to the sun because he saw a lens flare on his phone. It's also much harder to find the real thing if it exists because it would be so far away and sunlight at that distance would be very dim. Go figure. of course not but i do expect some sort of standard press release with the data collected thus far That's not how this works. At all. i do not expect them to find it in 20 days...but I do expect them to release the data they have thus far collected Quoting: ACSo that someone can scoop something they missed in the data or have not yet had time to detect? No, that's not how this works. At all. |