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If Rand Paul Is So Pro Sovereignty, Why Does He Want to Prioritize the Globalists’ Trans-Pacific Partnership'?

 
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It is the worst 'treaty' ever! It will be the end of the Constitution and of the USA.

One thing it does is allows corporations to sue anyone anywhere who says or does something that might damage the corporation's future profits.

That means no bad product reviews on Amazon, no negative info on Consumer Reports, no badmouthing GMO's, fluoride, or vaccines. Or you'll be fined or jailed.

I cannot believe Rand Paul thinks this shit is a good idea. He has sold out bigtime!
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Thanks much for the pin. I figure, at this point, if we can't have faith in someone like Rand Paul, then fuck it. There is no more to look for within the existing political system of the United Socialist States of America. We have to work from without. It will be hard, but tell that to the patriots of the 1700's. They managed it, and they succeeded. Against all odds, our forefathers took on the greatest empire the world had known since Rome, and won. I am convinced that we are at that point; there is no chance of working within the structure of the existing system to bring about change, as both sides are equally corrupted. Change must come from external forces. I strongly feel that we are at the forefront of the next American Revolution, say circa 1774. I just hope there are enough souls to instigate, but given the welfare status of the nation I have my serious doubts.

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It's called a third party system that the establishment won't
let happen.
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It's called a third party system that the establishment won't
let happen.
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do we have a second party?
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lol, national sovereignty. Thats a joke
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Forget Rand. Ron was the closest thing to a deserving candidate that America has had since JFK. Period.
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He's a fraud, sold out at least 5 or 6 years ago.
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Sure he is, he's a jew dick sucker who watched his father get nowhere his whole life refusing to suck jew dick, or suck it very hard.

He's decided he's going to suck just as deep as he has to and swallow it all to get to the top, which is what you have to do to get to the top. There are some who think that once he gets there he will betray his jew master. I don't share that opinion.
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Agreed. He's a self serving vulture capitalist.
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Ron will have to sit Rand down and school him.

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With all due respect...

How much did they pay you to post this? It is so lobbyist payd shill. I'm so upset I'm typing olde english here.

First, your position that America "saved" by voting. Gonna have to eviscerate that, later, one day. That was your first mistake in writing this.

Second, both thoroughly corrupt, another X on your gong show of an effort.

Puppets for banks X.

Megacorporations X.

That design argument, it's so...undergraduate. What political party are you with exactly and in what state?

See you lost me at the first two paragraphs. Go back to your soda pop and keep racking up the pennies for your political campaign spew in forums. I wish I had an ignore button for these brainless arguments.
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This is a question for those among us who still believe that America can be “saved” by voting.

If you’ve already figured out a long time ago that both sides of the aisle are thoroughly corrupt, bought out puppets for banks and megacorporations, then you don’t even have to read this article unless you just want to see further proof than Rand Paul is exactly just such a puppet.

Protesters recently disrupted a senate hearing over the fast-tracking of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), waving banners that said things like “TPP FAST TRACK — JOB KILLING ACT” and screaming things like, “they’re going to ship more of our jobs overseas and lower our wages!!!”

NAFTA already helped facilitate a lot of that and we’ve been in a steady decline ever since. The TPP is NAFTA on steroids.

People are getting angry, restless. As the obscene wealth gap in this country continues to widen and the puppet masters running the show continue to clamp down on the plebs, this situation is only going to get worse for the majority of us.

The TPP, if you aren’t familiar, is no less than an all-out assault on our national sovereignty.

But I’m not the only one saying that. Here’s a summation from William F. Jasper of The New American:

"The Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, as it is called, is an all-out assault on our national sovereignty. It would unconstitutionally transfer legislative powers from the U.S. Congress, our state legislatures, and our city and county governments to multi-national corporations and unaccountable international bureaucrats at the World Trade Organization, or WTO. Incredibly, it also would transfer judicial powers from our federal and state courts — which are bad enough — to globalist TPP judges at regional tribunals and the WTO. It would also confer huge advantages on foreign businesses and large multinationals, while at the same time putting companies that operate here in America — especially small and medium-sized enterprises — at a competitive disadvantage. American businesses would remain shackled by the regulations of EPA, FDA, OSHA, etc. while their foreign competitors could operate here unimpeded by those same strictures.
Like the infamous NAFTA trade agreement passed in the ’90s, the TPP would usher in another wave of outsourcing, as the remaining manufacturing and technology bases would be given incentives to move to Pacific Rim countries, resulting in millions more American job losses. [emphasis added]"


Hm. That doesn’t sound very good for the average American, does it? The elite behind it, however, who are pushing us all toward a New World Order, are rubbing their grimy little hands (hooves) together with glee at this.

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but isnt this what all you libertarian free market capitalists ask for? no Gov'ment interference!!? What you miss is that the " free" in the world of corporatism and wall st. is code for "free for all" capitalism
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The Pauls are controlled opposition, always have been. That includes Ron Paul.

The sooner people realize that, the sooner they will stop being suckered and controlled by this Family.

You have no saviours in Congress. All the good people have been routed out of government many years ago.
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He's a fraud, sold out at least 5 or 6 years ago.
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Sure he is, he's a jew dick sucker who watched his father get nowhere his whole life refusing to suck jew dick, or suck it very hard.

He's decided he's going to suck just as deep as he has to and swallow it all to get to the top, which is what you have to do to get to the top. There are some who think that once he gets there he will betray his jew master. I don't share that opinion.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS
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With all due respect...

How much did they pay you to post this? It is so lobbyist payd shill. I'm so upset I'm typing olde english here.

First, your position that America "saved" by voting. Gonna have to eviscerate that, later, one day. That was your first mistake in writing this.

Second, both thoroughly corrupt, another X on your gong show of an effort.

Puppets for banks X.

Megacorporations X.

That design argument, it's so...undergraduate. What political party are you with exactly and in what state?

See you lost me at the first two paragraphs. Go back to your soda pop and keep racking up the pennies for your political campaign spew in forums. I wish I had an ignore button for these brainless arguments.
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Impartial observer here, what political party/state do you claim? Also how the fuck does that make a difference, seeing as how most intelligent people realize political parties play for the same check-signer.
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Re: If Rand Paul Is So Pro Sovereignty, Why Does He Want to Prioritize the Globalists’ Trans-Pacific Partnership'?
Quite simply put Rand believes a partnership in trade will promote peace while sovereignity reigns for the nation.

What he doesn't realize is that all his constituents want a one world government and one world trade and they have no intention of doing away with the boogie man at all! In fact the boogie man is a very important part of their MO for rule!

People have said, oh hey if a one world government means no one has any reason to fight anymore and it makes peace in the world well I'm all for that! Oh really? Here is a thought! It won't make one bit of peace for you at all!

Once the world is theirs they have to create a new enemy and of course its the evil aliens coming to get you now fully equipped with mutated skin, genetic alterations, and weird flying machines so that when you see these you'll be convinced of their reality!!!
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Because libertarians are pro free trade even if it screws us all.
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ALL.
POLITICIANS.
ARE.
LIARS.





When will you fucking idiots fucking fuckbrains wake the fuck up and KILL THEM????
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WA HA HA HA HA, HA HA HA HA HAAH!!! I've never had any faith in any politicians! I'm no fool!

But killing is going to require some subtle tactics!
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TELL CONGRESS TO OPPOSE “FAST TRACK” FOR THE TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TRADE AGREEMENT

[link to salsa3.salsalabs.com]
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because he is pro free trade and you are all retards.
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Thread: California lost 432,517 manufacturing jobs since NAFTA. Find out how many jobs your state lost: #NoFastTrack #TPP

Interactive Map in link, select state for infor

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The data displayed in each state's page when the map above is clicked represents net changes in total manufacturing employment and estimates of job loss on a statewide basis. For workplace-specific information from our Trade Adjustment Assistance database, see here.

The reduction of tariffs on foreign goods and/or elimination of import quotas results in the elimination of companies and/or industries whose products are undercut by increases in foreign imports. One of the key factors that determine whether a foreign-made good is cheaper than the domestic good is the cost of labor in the country of origin. Workers losing jobs to imports or plant relocations overseas -- and the communities and regions reliant on economic sectors destroyed by such shifts--find their futures uncertain. Even the strongest proponents of "free trade" theory believe in trying to assist these workers and communities to adjust to their altered futures, if for no other reason than to take the edge off of the anger about job-losing trade policies.

More in link


Ross Perot vs. Al Gore NAFTA Debate FULL! 1993:
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Thread: Obama wants #NAFTA-style #TPP to be fast-tracked through Congress before public know details...WILL KILL THE INTERNET



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This TPP is insane...so let's fast track it!

ahhh
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Check out this article on the TPP:

[link to www.hightowerlowdown.org]
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because they have bombs and arabs not
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Rand ain't no Ron.
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And Ron ain't no Rand. Obama sell hope and change dream to one audience and Ron/Rand sell hope and change to a different audience. Same shit , different day , different audience.
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So much truth in this statement.
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the final war must be all vs all

there can be only one
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Look up voting record, voted for spyings, big gov gmo protection, etc.. It is asick game with rand. Not to b trusted at all. He is not what he says he is. Dont give him your money!

Proof on his lies r clear to see, votingrecord, ornot showi.g up for vote, but working background to get the bad thing passed. His very own machines emails, state he supports TPP.. I have email box full of yrs of rand paul stating he supports crap that is nwo, not for us etc.. Gmos, the protect monsanto act, un traties doesnt push for any investigations.

Rand paul totally sold out. I get newsletters, emails, etc from him, his groups, etc and quite literally while begging for $$$ to end the fed, he fully support TPP. This is in the emails, in the pages from hot links theywantu to visit. I started noticing very clearly atad over 3years ago how his campaigne network started to act like we have since been fully informed how tcampaignehe soros system, the use ofconsumwr
tracking, the using in essence of private gov private data the O machine

was using

Would getdaily emails from rand group stating i have not yet clicked that link etc... Or only went to 1st page not other link
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Check out this article on the TPP:

[link to www.hightowerlowdown.org]
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This is a great explanation of the TPP. Also, it points out that there IS organized opposition to this thing and they have been successful in the past in stopping implementation of many of its more onerous features.

Its a good article to share with others who don't want their lives controlled by multinational corporations.
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Know them by their actions, not their shallow words.
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[link to salsa3.salsalabs.com]

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a trade deal currently under negotiation among 12 nations—Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, United States, and Vietnam. If ratified by these governments, TPP would be the largest trade deal in history -- representing 792 million people and accounting for 40 percent of the world economy1 -- yet it's being written and negotiated in secret.



GLPers in these countries ought to look into this horror that is coming at them and do what they can to stop it.
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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[link to salsa3.salsalabs.com]

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a trade deal currently under negotiation among 12 nations—Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, United States, and Vietnam. If ratified by these governments, TPP would be the largest trade deal in history -- representing 792 million people and accounting for 40 percent of the world economy1 -- yet it's being written and negotiated in secret.



GLPers in these countries ought to look into this horror that is coming at them and do what they can to stop it.
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Anyone notice that the BRICS (Brazil, Russia,India, China, S. Africa) countries are not part of the TPP.
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America is trying to dominate the Asian Pacific trades excluding China from TPP. Mean while China is building a silk road going west to deliver the goods via high speed rail, leaving America behind.

We are living in interesting time.
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The current system for China to deliver the goods to Europe will take 21 days. The new high speed rails system will deliver goods to Europe in two days.





GLP