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Yes they have many elite troops there. But then again im sure we do to.
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NULAND: `THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS' OF RUSSIAN TROOPS IN UKRAINE.

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Millions!
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I want another demonstration of ...

USS Lame Duck got stuck action..

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Let me get this straight. You people believe that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine?

Conflict in a country on Russia's border just like Georgia or Chechnya, and Russian troops are not involved? They were in Georgia and Chechnya. Why would Russia skip out on troops in Ukraine?

What about crimea? Those were Russian troops. Many pictures of the Russian troops there. They even have a major naval base there.

So people keep saying that Russian troops and armor are not in Ukraine, yet you can google it and see many Russian tanks and troops speaking Russian dialect only found in Russia.

Why are you people claiming otherwise? Are you backing Russia? Do you think Russia protects you? Or somehow Russia is being a hero of the people?

You will in for a big shock soon.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
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But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


There are some separatists in Chechnya. They don't control the local government and they have largely been defeated.

Would you feel the same way about separatism if a group of White Nationalists started fighting the federal government of the United States to achieve a significant and resource rich portion of territory that was free from blacks, jews, latinos, asians, etc?

Or does your love for separatism only extend as far as US geopolitical [read: jewish communist] goals go?
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NULAND: `THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS' OF RUSSIAN TROOPS IN UKRAINE.

 Quoting: Luisport


Millions!
 Quoting: Weltenbrand


one trilliard ... at least!
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ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Let me get this straight. You people believe that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine?

Conflict in a country on Russia's border just like Georgia or Chechnya, and Russian troops are not involved? They were in Georgia and Chechnya. Why would Russia skip out on troops in Ukraine?

What about crimea? Those were Russian troops. Many pictures of the Russian troops there. They even have a major naval base there.

So people keep saying that Russian troops and armor are not in Ukraine, yet you can google it and see many Russian tanks and troops speaking Russian dialect only found in Russia.

Why are you people claiming otherwise? Are you backing Russia? Do you think Russia protects you? Or somehow Russia is being a hero of the people?

You will in for a big shock soon.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
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RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS CONDUCT ATTACK EXERCISES ON NATO FLEET GROUP IN BLACK SEA -- RIA CITING MILITARY SOURCE

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RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS CONDUCT ATTACK EXERCISES ON NATO FLEET GROUP IN BLACK SEA -- RIA CITING MILITARY SOURCE

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gaspabombahhh
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NULAND: `THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS' OF RUSSIAN TROOPS IN UKRAINE.

 Quoting: Luisport


Millions!
 Quoting: Weltenbrand


one trilliard ... at least!
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


russians
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RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS CONDUCT ATTACK EXERCISES ON NATO FLEET GROUP IN BLACK SEA -- RIA CITING MILITARY SOURCE

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nvm only a drill
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RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS CONDUCT ATTACK EXERCISES ON NATO FLEET GROUP IN BLACK SEA -- RIA CITING MILITARY SOURCE

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wtf

Hopefully not a live fire drill...

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RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS CONDUCT ATTACK EXERCISES ON NATO FLEET GROUP IN BLACK SEA -- RIA CITING MILITARY SOURCE

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wtf

Hopefully not a live fire drill...

abomb
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hopefully not but who knows!
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...


VICE founder, famous for "truth telling", has history of lies

[link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


To underscore your point Otto, this is Times journalist David Carr who died just a few weeks ago Confronting Vice:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Check the guy on the right with the reddest face in the room
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The guy Shane Smith from vice is clearly a bullshit artist when it comes to his own claims to fame. Neither the article or the video contain any information about untruths contained in the reporting though. Additionally, this Ukraine story is not produced by him.

Do you have any issue with the facts in this video? or just more diversions.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


I wonder how often you quote news from sources backed by zionists. You try to bash Putin for his zionist connections but when it turns to make your points you often use zionist sources to underpin your statements. I wonder why? Are not there enough alternative sources which can support your vision of the world and happenings? Because it looks little bit schyzophrenic when you on one hand try to find zionists everywhere and on other hand, when it is handy for you, you use their news. Strange. But those doublestandards and contradictions are pretty common for goobernments and their owners....
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I would be hard pressed identifying any news source or type of social media that is not kosher.

You believe that Putin's close friend oligarchs are not dual Israeli citizens?
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...


Putin did lie,. Russian Troops are in Ukraine.

Whats the big deal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5251328


Funny, there's about 40 million people looking for them as well as the most sophisticated spy network in human history and so far the proof is ... let's say ... underwhelming.

What's your best proof?

That Vice series was actually hilarious. She found two graves of men who had died in August 2014 and suddenly she claims they were brought back in body bags from Ukraine and that they were Russian soldiers. Really? Is that all you got? Two guys in the same city dieing within 1 day of each other proves Russian troops are fighting in Ukraine? LMAO.
 Quoting: SunDancer 68471612


'"We all knew that we were going on and what can be"

...but we knew where we were going. We all knew where we were going. I have already been set up morally and mentally, that will be in Ukraine...

Batomunkuev Dorji, 20 years old, 5 Tank Brigade (Ulan-Ude), a military unit № 46108. conscripts, called to November 25, 2013, in June 2014 signed a contract for three years. Personal Number 200220, military ID 2609999.'

[link to www.novayagazeta.ru]

Anyone still questioning Russian military presence in this thread is a guaranteed Kremlin employee.
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 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Not a very convincing article (translation at [link to euromaidanpress.com] ) but it does give some personnel numbers, let's see what that leads to.

One reason is the timeline does not seem to match up - his FB page ( [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] shows him posting a pic of him on the beach on January 13 and with his sister Jan. 9 . The Jan. 13 image was actually created on Jan. 13, according to its meta-data (though that's not conclusive), and I'm quite sure Donetsk is not beach weather at that time of the year.

Another is: if the article's claims are true, then Donetsk has been operating a wide and profound conspiracy for 9 months now regarding the presence of Russian troops. So why would they allow this guy spill to "spill the beans" to Novaya Gazeta, a well-known anti-Russian newspaper?

Another oddity is his ethnicity. He doesn't exactly blend And there's other reasons to question this story.

We will see if Russia responds regarding this report, as there is military ID information it can be confirmed or denied.
 Quoting: SunDancer 68471612


Russians are becoming less inclined to help Putin's deceptive foreign Policy. This thread excluded of course.
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#US National Intelligence Director admits visiting #Ukraine

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Let me get this straight. You people believe that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine?

Conflict in a country on Russia's border just like Georgia or Chechnya, and Russian troops are not involved? They were in Georgia and Chechnya. Why would Russia skip out on troops in Ukraine?

What about crimea? Those were Russian troops. Many pictures of the Russian troops there. They even have a major naval base there.

So people keep saying that Russian troops and armor are not in Ukraine, yet you can google it and see many Russian tanks and troops speaking Russian dialect only found in Russia.

Why are you people claiming otherwise? Are you backing Russia? Do you think Russia protects you? Or somehow Russia is being a hero of the people?

You will in for a big shock soon.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

:wt
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Uh-ha , and U.S.A = democracy spreading hero's
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VODKA VODKA EVERYWHERE!
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NO! not just Vodka.. bro!

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Let me get this straight. You people believe that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine?

Conflict in a country on Russia's border just like Georgia or Chechnya, and Russian troops are not involved? They were in Georgia and Chechnya. Why would Russia skip out on troops in Ukraine?

What about crimea? Those were Russian troops. Many pictures of the Russian troops there. They even have a major naval base there.

So people keep saying that Russian troops and armor are not in Ukraine, yet you can google it and see many Russian tanks and troops speaking Russian dialect only found in Russia.

Why are you people claiming otherwise? Are you backing Russia? Do you think Russia protects you? Or somehow Russia is being a hero of the people?

You will in for a big shock soon.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
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But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Every country / person is more or less hypocritical. But from Russian nationalist POV the Chechen rebels were unpopular jihadists (like al CIAda and IS/Daesh) who ruled through terror. Second war was driven by Chechen attacks on Moscow and the Russian school. Donetsk OTOH had a referendum and has not attacked Kiev.
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Let me get this straight. You people believe that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine?

Conflict in a country on Russia's border just like Georgia or Chechnya, and Russian troops are not involved? They were in Georgia and Chechnya. Why would Russia skip out on troops in Ukraine?

What about crimea? Those were Russian troops. Many pictures of the Russian troops there. They even have a major naval base there.

So people keep saying that Russian troops and armor are not in Ukraine, yet you can google it and see many Russian tanks and troops speaking Russian dialect only found in Russia.

Why are you people claiming otherwise? Are you backing Russia? Do you think Russia protects you? Or somehow Russia is being a hero of the people?

You will in for a big shock soon.
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Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
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But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
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Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
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Don't want to be part of Russia? The VAST VAST Majority do

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But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740



Don't want to be part of Russia? The VAST VAST Majority do


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474161

Ah, countries are trending away from Putler's Russia

ANO presents pro-American, anti-Russian policy

Prague, Feb 12 (CTK) - The ruling party ANO had no clear stances on the developments outside the Czech Republic, but its leader Andrej Babis ordered a change and ANO has started to promote ties to the United States and criticism of Russia, daily Hospodarske noviny (HN) writes Thursday.
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[link to praguemonitor.com]

Not 3 weeks ago, we had this:

Belarusian Leader Issues Tough Warning to Moscow

MINSK, Belarus — New cracks emerged Thursday in a Russia-led economic alliance, with the president of Belarus warning that his nation may opt out of it.

Alexander Lukashenko also sternly warned Moscow Thursday that his nation of 10 million will never be part of the "Russian world," a term coined by the Kremlin that reflects its hopes to pull ex-Soviet nations closer into its orbit.

"Those who think that the Belarusian land is part as what they call the Russian world, almost part of Russia, forget about it!" Lukashenko said. "Belarus is a modern and independent state."<50%.  [link to www.nytimes.com]
What exactly is Putin trying to accomplish lately?
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Just a side note. What is strange aobut Russian troops in Chechnya? Chechnya is the part of Russian Federation (and it was during both Chechnyan wars and) so it is pretty common there are Russian troops in Russia.

wtf
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


But wait... are they not separatists?

Wikipedia:
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Chechen-Ingush ASSR was split into two parts: the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic. The latter proclaimed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which sought independence. Following the First Chechen War with Russia, Chechnya gained de facto independence as the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russian federal control was restored during the Second Chechen War. Since then there has been a systematic reconstruction and rebuilding process, though sporadic fighting continues in the mountains and southern regions of the republic.

And Russia is trying to crush that resistance? So why are they supporting separatists in another country?

Self interest anyone?!?!?!

Russia = hypocrites
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Pure fantasy and lack of knowing. No need to prolonging this pointless discussion indeed. You need to learn something. But maybe you are an ISIS fan and you would like to introduce Sharia law in the US of A. What we know...
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740



Don't want to be part of Russia? The VAST VAST Majority do


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474161

Ah, countries are trending away from Putler's Russia

ANO presents pro-American, anti-Russian policy

Prague, Feb 12 (CTK) - The ruling party ANO had no clear stances on the developments outside the Czech Republic, but its leader Andrej Babis ordered a change and ANO has started to promote ties to the United States and criticism of Russia, daily Hospodarske noviny (HN) writes Thursday.
<50%  
[link to praguemonitor.com]

Not 3 weeks ago, we had this:

Belarusian Leader Issues Tough Warning to Moscow

MINSK, Belarus — New cracks emerged Thursday in a Russia-led economic alliance, with the president of Belarus warning that his nation may opt out of it.

Alexander Lukashenko also sternly warned Moscow Thursday that his nation of 10 million will never be part of the "Russian world," a term coined by the Kremlin that reflects its hopes to pull ex-Soviet nations closer into its orbit.

"Those who think that the Belarusian land is part as what they call the Russian world, almost part of Russia, forget about it!" Lukashenko said. "Belarus is a modern and independent state."<50%.  [link to www.nytimes.com]
What exactly is Putin trying to accomplish lately?
chuckle
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Well, obviously you missed that the vidoe and whole post is about Chechnia. But if you pulled out some crap from praguemonitor I have to say that:

1) ANO is definitely not "the Rusling party" in Czech Republic

2) Andrej Babis is just another version of oligarchs and he was not even born and rised in Czech Republic (he is from Slovakia)

3) Andrej Babis is minister of finance and he has nor rights to order anything what is connected with foreign policy lolz.

4) Acting president Milos Zeman already said enough abut Kiev Banderists, Russian reaction to provocations and about Ukrainian crisis (and he complies also with former president Vaclav Klaus in that questions)

[link to www.ceskenoviny.cz]

[link to www.praguepost.com]

[link to rt.com]

[link to www.praguepost.com]

[link to www.spectator.co.uk]

sputniknews .com/europe/20150121/1017194583.html


Also your article about Belarus is not correct but I will not spend more times to proving you are wrong. Probably you don't eve care what is true...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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I will not repeat myself I will say just that - "Chechen separatism" was just a parto of attmept to destroy Russia. It was backed by Saiudis/USA and for this dirty work there was used Islamic radicals. The main goaly of them was establishment of Islamic country where will be implemented sharia law. Russia had to cope with jihadist groups, very often not even from Chechnia or Caucasus, but from foreign countries (mostly directly from SE, for example Ibn Al-Khattab or Abu al-Walid). Also, if you are able to call Russia as hypocrites in that case, you should learn some basics about islamists as Shamil Basayev or Doku Umarov.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Yeah. Yeah. Ol' boy, you just love Russia. I know.

But facts are facts. Chechnya broke away. Russia went in to subject those people to Russian rule. They did not want to be part of Russia. Simple as that and still don't today.

Funny how Russia ends up on the other side of that coin in regards to Crimea. Could it be due to the strategic naval base and nothing to do with Russian nationalism?

Ukraine is dealing with the same issue in terms of break away territories. Russia runs in to save the day, right?

Like I already stated and I will repeat myself because it seems some people don't get it and maybe they are parroting too much propaganda:

Russia = hypocrites


Now back to the news items.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740



Don't want to be part of Russia? The VAST VAST Majority do


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474161

Ah, countries are trending away from Putler's Russia

ANO presents pro-American, anti-Russian policy

Prague, Feb 12 (CTK) - The ruling party ANO had no clear stances on the developments outside the Czech Republic, but its leader Andrej Babis ordered a change and ANO has started to promote ties to the United States and criticism of Russia, daily Hospodarske noviny (HN) writes Thursday.
<50%  
[link to praguemonitor.com]

Not 3 weeks ago, we had this:

Belarusian Leader Issues Tough Warning to Moscow

MINSK, Belarus — New cracks emerged Thursday in a Russia-led economic alliance, with the president of Belarus warning that his nation may opt out of it.

Alexander Lukashenko also sternly warned Moscow Thursday that his nation of 10 million will never be part of the "Russian world," a term coined by the Kremlin that reflects its hopes to pull ex-Soviet nations closer into its orbit.

"Those who think that the Belarusian land is part as what they call the Russian world, almost part of Russia, forget about it!" Lukashenko said. "Belarus is a modern and independent state."<50%.  [link to www.nytimes.com]
What exactly is Putin trying to accomplish lately?
chuckle
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Are things really this bad for Putin? I mean, there are several posts today which paint a very dismal and dire picture of Putin and Russia.





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