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KneelB4Zod!
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Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here
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that's sad
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There is also video:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I understood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists left to "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacuate them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in eastern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!

Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 02/03/2015 05:33 PM
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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German Tiger I heavy tanks of the 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" advance near Kirovograd, Ukraine, 1943. #WW2
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Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here
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that's sad
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There is also video:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Yes, but this time the world remains silent.
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02/03/2015 05:31 PM

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Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here
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that's sad
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There is also video:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod hf

People in the west need to see this shit!
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Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here
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that's sad
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There is also video:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod hf

People in the west need to see this shit!
 Quoting: firinne

Not sure about this one. Haven't watched yet

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the battle for ukraine is over

the battle for middle earth begins
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The influential new report urging Obama to arm Ukraine, explained

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Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here
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that's sad
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There is also video:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod hf

People in the west need to see this shit!
 Quoting: firinne


Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes...

Never mind, here you go:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 02/03/2015 05:36 PM
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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hi
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Hi Zod.

headbang
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Aleksandr Zakharchenko


“If Poroshenko thinks that his army can compete with ours, let him see how quickly we took Uglegorsk,”

“They are throwing into battle untrained reservists who can’t even tell the business end of a rifle. We have high morale, we have lived here, we live here now, and will continue to do so, this is our land,”

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What,s hapenned to that violent broke into Kiev's Parliament?

Quiet now?
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Hola, Viva NFA

No I am not spaintard :-)
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"Russian refusal 2 help implement Minsk agr. may leave Western countries with no choice but 2 deliver defense equip."
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Hola, Viva NFA

No I am not spaintard :-)
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cheers
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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What,s hapenned to that violent broke into Kiev's Parliament?

Quiet now?
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They will come tomorrow again they said...

Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 02/03/2015 05:54 PM
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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There is also video:


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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod hf

People in the west need to see this shit!
 Quoting: firinne


Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes...

Never mind, here you go:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Cheers Zod hf

I have posted links to a couple of other forums, together we can do our bit to show the world whats really happening in Ukraine, and just maybe we can help put a stop to this madness sooner.
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Aleksandr Zakharchenko


“If Poroshenko thinks that his army can compete with ours, let him see how quickly we took Uglegorsk,”

“They are throwing into battle untrained reservists who can’t even tell the business end of a rifle. We have high morale, we have lived here, we live here now, and will continue to do so, this is our land,”
 Quoting: firinne


clappaclappaclappa
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly.

And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod hf

People in the west need to see this shit!
 Quoting: firinne


Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes...

Never mind, here you go:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Cheers Zod hf

I have posted links to a couple of other forums, together we can do our bit to show the world whats really happening in Ukraine, and just maybe we can help put a stop to this madness sooner.
 Quoting: firinne


resist
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one.
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Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one.
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:nulandcookie:

Nuland cookies give you a tooth-ache?
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Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one.
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I know I just had a wee look and its turned into a thread debating about not debating...

retards2
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'No doubt' America will give us weapons, says Ukraine, amid fears of 'catastrophic' escalation

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Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53640197


I know I just had a wee look and its turned into a thread debating about not debating...

retards2
 Quoting: firinne


epiclol

Problem is that how te deal with notorious trolls and thread derailers. One thing is meaningful discussion and other things are pointless litany, whining and attacking other users...

huffy
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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'No doubt' America will give us weapons, says Ukraine, amid fears of 'catastrophic' escalation

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It will be nice. Novorossiyan army with confiscated Javelines...

chuckle
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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[GRAPHIC] Rebels counterattack a checkpoint Chernuhinsky



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Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53640197


I know I just had a wee look and its turned into a thread debating about not debating...

retards2
 Quoting: firinne


epiclol

Problem is that how te deal with notorious trolls and thread derailers. One thing is meaningful discussion and other things are pointless litany, whining and attacking other users...

huffy
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Your going to get that anyway, remember the NWO shills will purpously try to derail the thread because of the amount of good info coming forth.

My rules are simple..

1, post what you like

2, If you dont like what a poster is saying put them on your ignore list

3, Debunk the shills

4, enjoy the thread
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The numerous Russian shills and hasbara trolls all will tell you that Ukraine doesnt deserve to exist despite it's declared independence in the late 1990's.

They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either.

Is there a connection?
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Does not sound good, Poroshenko is to meet Stoltenberg(NATO) this week also.

[link to time-ua.com]
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The numerous Russian shills and hasbara trolls all will tell you that Ukraine doesnt deserve to exist despite it's declared independence in the late 1990's.

They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either.

Is there a connection?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60286568


No
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The numerous Russian shills and hasbara trolls all will tell you that Ukraine doesnt deserve to exist despite it's declared independence in the late 1990's.

They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either.

Is there a connection?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60286568


At the end of the cold war, America had the chance to promote and sustain world peace, THEY BLEW IT.

However, as this website shows, there are many, many good Americans, on the side of humanity, I,m with them.


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