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Ukraine: An Editorial in The New York Times Suggests US Is Looking for a Face-Saving Way Out [link to russia-insider.com]
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Sweeping of Uglegorsk. Special operation of the militia. 18+


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"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Morning all, and cheers for keeping the thread going hf
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Morning all, and cheers for keeping the thread going hf
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Results of shelling of Gorlovka/Horlivka by kiev forces (English subs).

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Morning all, and cheers for keeping the thread going hf
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Morning.

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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In desperation in trying to preserve the petro-dollar

Pentagon official lists militants, Russia and China as threats to U.S.

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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
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Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 20 min.
SIT REP #Debaltsevo
Acc. to some sources from the front #Kamyanka is entirely under NAF control!
Route to #Svitlodarsk 100% in NAF hands!

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 4 min.
SIT REP Fightings street to street with artillery support in #Debaltsevo, #Chornukhyno and #Popasnaya! #Novorossiya
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

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Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35983088


I admire him for trying but his new thread became like drain vagina as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job done.

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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
 Quoting: Matjaz


Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35983088


I admorehim for trying but his new thread become like drain vagine as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job doen.
 Quoting: Matjaz


In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
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Well, I think it is not bad idea after all. I visit one military forum, where they managed this situation similary. They have one thread (unofficialy called "butthurt thread") where is everyone alowed to speak out his opinions or whine about his miserable life or whatever. It is of course under mods supervision but it is for discussions. And another one thread htey have strictly for photos and videos. Everything else is deleted, violators of rules punished. But mods have work more easy because whole forum is only for registered members. They use temp bans and in cases of serious breach of rules perma bans.

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ · 1 min.
RT @Kosarev_RT: 3 civilians dead, multiple wounded after rockets struck hospital & apt building in #Donetsk

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35983088


I admorehim for trying but his new thread become like drain vagine as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job doen.
 Quoting: Matjaz


In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
 Quoting: firinne


I hear ya. But spaintard(his name realy isnt fair towards Spaniards) should be exiled here. There's no point in interacting with him...at all.
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BUMP BUMP BUMPEETY BUMP alien11
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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The other one is a pure newsthread, here the background gets discussed alongside with the news.
The old one was a mix and did not work so well for both sides, so you can choose what you prefer.
Thanks to OP, by the way.
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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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The other one is a pure newsthread, here the background gets discussed alongside with the news.
The old one was a mix and did not work so well for both sides, so you can choose what you prefer.
Thanks to OP, by the way.
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I'm gonna be active in both rex But I doubt I'll be on the other one if Zod will ignore it since he is the main provider of news. Lyonesse and Libertine are good but they dont spend so much time online....please carry on hf

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BREAKING: Hospital shelled in #Donetsk, deaths reported - local authorities [link to on.rt.com] (pic @Kosarev_RT)

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Follow up by Alexander Mercouris to previous article posted on Russia Insider with comments by The Saker.

War in the Ukraine Feb. 04.2015

1. My key point is that it is not minor tactical movements that are determining the course of this war. It is the level of casualties the Ukrainian military is suffering. They were hammered in the summer and they are being hammered again now.

In my pieces for Russia Insider I quoted the number of Ukrainian military deaths on the basis of official Ukrainian documents obtained by a hacking group as 1,100 for a two week period that covered the battle for Donetsk airport. The NAF today puts the total number of Ukrainian military deaths presumably since the resumption of the fighting at 1,500. Colonel Cassad yesterday was saying that the number could be over 1,800.

The figures of 1,500 and 1,800 cover a longer period than the 1,100 in the hacked Ukrainian documents. The fact that they are all of the same order of magnitude however suggests that all these figures are reliable. If so then that that shows that my guess that the Ukrainian army is suffering deaths at a rate of several hundred a week is probably correct.


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Good mouning! Whats the point of this thread then? Succession, competition, place for fun and giggles? 1dunno1
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The other one is a pure newsthread, here the background gets discussed alongside with the news.
The old one was a mix and did not work so well for both sides, so you can choose what you prefer.
Thanks to OP, by the way.
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I'm gonna be active in both rex But I doubt I'll be on the other one if Zod will ignore it since he is the main provider of news. Lyonesse and Libertine are good but they dont spend so much time online....please carry on hf
 Quoting: Matjaz


Thanx, but surely it is work of all contributors who track this situation. Currently I try to post to both threads by it is really schizofrenic...

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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New map (NAF confirmed)
Debaltsevo cauldron closed, possible second around Svetlodarsk.

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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35983088


I admorehim for trying but his new thread become like drain vagine as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job doen.
 Quoting: Matjaz


In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
 Quoting: firinne


I hear ya. But spaintard(his name realy isnt fair towards Spaniards) should be exiled here. There's no point in interacting with him...at all.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Just stick him on your ignore list, that option is available for good reason.
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I admorehim for trying but his new thread become like drain vagine as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job doen.
 Quoting: Matjaz


In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
 Quoting: firinne


I hear ya. But spaintard(his name realy isnt fair towards Spaniards) should be exiled here. There's no point in interacting with him...at all.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Just stick him on your ignore list, that option is available for good reason.
 Quoting: firinne


But he's an AC, cant be done cow on a side note does anybody have a link to subtitled video of Givi cutting ukie ribbons. Its 20+ min video and I missed it the other day. Thank you.
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Kombat "Aydar" called for an end to the war and direct talks with the commanders of the militia [link to voicesevas.ru] … …
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In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
 Quoting: firinne


I hear ya. But spaintard(his name realy isnt fair towards Spaniards) should be exiled here. There's no point in interacting with him...at all.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Just stick him on your ignore list, that option is available for good reason.
 Quoting: firinne


But he's an AC, cant be done cow on a side note does anybody have a link to subtitled video of Givi cutting ukie ribbons. Its 20+ min video and I missed it the other day. Thank you.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Blueridge posted it I think. I will try to find...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / Vault 7, Year Zero, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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BREAKING: Hospital shelled in #Donetsk, deaths reported - local authorities [link to on.rt.com] (pic @Kosarev_RT)

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Murika will blame Putin, for supporting separatists. So it's all their fault. excuseme2
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Ukraine govt is in panic, asking for "immediate ceasefire" ,Novorossiya army liberated over 10 towns, vilages/month [link to warfiles.ru] … …
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Fun and info. Debates without insults. Things like that. Main point is that Luis banned me from his new thread because I said I feel like in concentration camp there. Whoever tried to discuss was cut off with bold "only news" response from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35983088


I admorehim for trying but his new thread become like drain vagine as firinne put it. I hope we get rid of the spaintard here, that's 80% of the job doen.
 Quoting: Matjaz


In fairness I,m quite happy for NWO shills to come here, as we can have fun destroying there arguements and info, letting people find out the real truth.
 Quoting: firinne


I hear ya. But spaintard(his name realy isnt fair towards Spaniards) should be exiled here. There's no point in interacting with him...at all.
 Quoting: Matjaz


buenos días :-)
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#China alerts western would-be sponsors of the #Kiev putsch regime that #Ukraine will never manage to repay its debt. [link to itar-tass.com] …


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