UK Flu vaccine 'barely effective' against main viral strain

Thanks for the Stars ....

What is in the flu vaccine?

We need a list of all ingredients so we can see if it is worth it.

The flu has been killing alot of people in USA this year. Could it be flubola?

Ingredients

The vaccine contains live but weakened (attenuated) forms of flu virus which do not cause flu in those vaccinated.

The virus is grown on hens' eggs and the vaccine may contain small amounts of egg proteins. There are no published data on the use of Fluenz in children with egg allergy, but a new study will report on this soon. Children who are allergic to eggs should be given an egg-free inactivated flu vaccine, if one is available. With specialist medical advice, they may also be able to receive a vaccine with a very low albumin content. See more information on egg proteins in vaccines.

The vaccine also contains gelatin from pigs. See more information on gelatin in vaccines. Very sensitive scientific tests have shown that no DNA from pigs can be detected in the nasal flu vaccine. These tests show that the gelatin is broken down so much that the original source cannot be identified.

The vaccine may contain a trace of gentamicin, an antibiotic used in the manufacturing process. See more information on antibiotics in vaccines.

The viruses used to make Fluenz are custom-made by putting together individual genes which have the right features to protect against this year's flu strains. This makes it the only vaccine in the UK schedule to contain GMOs. The virus strains are then grown in the laboratory using animal cell-lines. See more information on animal cell-lines.

Other ingredients present in very small amounts:

Sucrose (sugar), used as a stabiliser
Potassium salts, used as an acidity regulator
Monosodium glutamate, also used as a stabiliser

Fluenz does not contain thiomersal (mercury).

[link to www.ovg.ox.ac.uk]

Last Edited by Dr_Doom on 02/06/2015 05:12 AM

No vaccine can ever be effective because that is not the way the body works.

The body doesn't attack what it knows it attacks what it doesn't know.

The while premise of vaccines giving the body something to recognise so it does attack is a fraud.


The body native cells all have a marker to indicate do not attack.


Everything else gets attacked.

Wake up to the vaccine lies.

According to the CDC 30,000 people a year die of it.

But like always fear sells

Last Edited by Fhirinne on 02/06/2015 05:23 AM

never had the vaccine, never will

last time i had the flu i was 16, never had the flu since

last time the other half had the flu was when he was 25, never had the flu since

30 years with no flu

neither of my kids have had flu jabs, neither have had the flu

i will stick with this formula, thanks


meantime, everyone i know who gets the jab, gets ill. either from the jab, or gets getting actual flu

which would be explained by its efficacy

same here

Flu jab is a waste of time for 97% of patients: Vaccine developed only a year ago no longer 'matches' because the virus has mutated so much

The flu jab will protect just three per cent of patients this winter, health experts warned last night.

They say the virus that causes the illness has mutated so much that it no longer ‘matches’ the current vaccine, which was only developed a year ago. The 3 per cent figure predicted by experts at Public Health England would be the worst in at least a decade.

The NHS spends around £100million each year on the flu vaccination programme, with each jab costing £7.60. Although it is never totally effective, it usually protects around 60 per cent of patients. Last night questions were being asked about why health officials did not raise the alarm earlier.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Pretty sure thats what my post said , but thanks for the info ;)

Last flu shot I took was in the '70's. Almost died from the flu immediately after getting the shot.

I have not had one since and will never have another one.

IF people would simply take lots of C and D3 and exercise caution about being around sick people they would never get the fucking flu.

I had one small round of flu a few years ago, but it was mild and I had been in a bus full of people who were coughing.

Wanna get the flu.. take their damned shot

And thank thee muchly for the pine ....

I was going to post this but saw your thread so thought I'd stick it here.
Can't hurt to have multiple sources for the linktards. :D

report in the news last week here in quebec,canada show 0% effective... can you beleive that ... 0% NADA!

It obviously doesn't have enough organic mercury, squalene, Bisphenol-A, MSG, Aspartame and arsenic in it.

Can I see a link to that news report. I am curious to read it.

Vaccines are great - for things like polio and bubonic plague. Why do we need vaccines for something that our immune systems should be able to fight off? It isn't that the diseases are getting stronger it's that we as a species are getting weaker and we're doing it to ourselves.

We have inundated ourselves with vaccines and antibiotics to the point where our immunity muscle is atrophied. It's no wonder the common cold isn't killing people by the droves. Oh wait, that's next you watch. Thousands, or millions killed by the everyday common cold.

Will that then be the end of it?

"immunity muscle".....?

It is absolutely, 100% untrue that the flu vaccine cannot cause flu. A friend of mine was practically crippled a few days ago after his flu shot. He developed an instant fever, and instantly, severely congested lungs--The kind of congestion one would normally have developed over the course of several days or a week. He said it was if he was instantly transported to the peak stage of a long-lasting flu. He was so cold he had to wear a down jacket, hat and gloves to bed. He was asymptomatic until the shot.

Hmm, eggs and pork gelatin? Bird and swine flu lol?

Also, many vaccines are not developed using egg technology anymore. They are developed using cell line technology, which uses cells from human fetuses and animals. There is no way to tell at the time of the vaccines creation whether there is cancerous, viral, or other harmful material in the cell lines. An entire industry has developed to: "cleanse the supply downstream." This is industry-ese for "remove as much nasty crap from it as possible. I wish to God I were kidding.

Yes immunity muscle in that if you don't use it, it weakens and becomes useless. Gee maybe that's why I put it in quotes you dolt.

mercury, a poison which inflames the brain for many years after injection and could cause dementia and alzheimer

i find it hilarious that the flu vaccine has been successfully marketed towards the mainstream sheeple. it used to be rightfully restricted to those with no effective immune system like the extreme elderly.

Only idiots would take a flu vaccine.

So 3 out of 100 people are benefitting from the vaccine.. Laughing my fucking ass off that is pretty much a chance of coincidence that 3 people feel better. That means the vaccines are not doing anything hahahhaha well except weakening ur immune system

Right so because H3N2 has drifted away from the vaccine causing a recent extra 3000 deaths per week in the UK (and other countries) almost exclusively in the over 65s this is proof that you shouldn't take the vaccine according to some? Mind blowing anti-logic here.

As the H1N1 components and the B components still match and some of the H3N2 still matches the 3% protection figure is also wildly wrong. The reason the UK press is mentioning this now is because it looks like the peak is past in the UK so they can run scare stories now its in the rear view mirror. They stayed silent as the epidemic increased. That's more of a conspiracy than the vaccine!

[link to www.documents.hps.scot.nhs.uk]

The West of Scotland Specialist Virology Centre (WOSSVC) has genetically characterised
103 influenza A(H3N2) virus. Seventy-three of the 103 virus isolates tested (70.9 %) are
in genetic groups containing viruses that show antigenic drift from the 2014/15 Northern
Hemisphere vaccine virus. This is often referred to as vaccine mismatch and may indicate
that the vaccinated population is less well protected than in seasons in which the vaccine
strains and circulating strains are well matched

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 Excess overall all-cause mortality, England and
Wales
-In week 4 2015, an estimated 13,934 all-cause deaths
were registered in England and Wales (source: Office
for National Statistics). This is less than the 14,866
estimated death registrations in week 3, but remains
above the 95% upper limit of expected death
registrations for the time of year as calculated by PHE

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[link to www.cdc.gov]

A (H3N2) [569]: 178 (31.3%) of the 569 H3N2 viruses tested have been characterized as A/Texas/50/2012-like, the influenza A (H3N2) component of the 2014-2015 Northern Hemisphere influenza vaccine. 391 (68.7%) of the 569 viruses tested showed either reduced titers with antiserum produced against A/Texas/50/2012 or belonged to a genetic group that typically shows reduced titers to A/Texas/50/2012. Among viruses that showed reduced titers with antiserum raised against A/Texas/50/2012, most were antigenically similar to A/Switzerland/9715293/2013, the H3N2 virus selected for the 2015 Southern Hemisphere influenza vaccine. A/Switzerland/9715293/2013 is related to, but antigenically and genetically distinguishable from, the A/Texas/50/2012 vaccine virus. A/Switzerland-like H3N2 viruses were first detected in the United States in small numbers in March of 2014 and began to increase through the spring and summer.

Gotta love that socialized medicine, eh?

STAY AWAY FROM ALL VACCINATIONS!!