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whoso readeth, let him understand:)
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All must take the mark

But in order to buy or sell - you have a choice:

The mark or the name or the number.

My thoughts are you need the mark - possibly for communications to take place i.e. supplants the smartphone.
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One thing to note in Rev 13:17 is it doesn't say just victory over his number, but victory over the number of his name.

Many people speculate that 666 is the number of letters the AC has in his name i.e. Edward has 6 letters.

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Notice it also says - the name of the beast.

Perhaps we need the name of the beast to figure out the number of his name?
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Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding

We're told he won't be revealed unto he stands in the temple declaring he is god.

Is it possible to figure out who it is before that time?

Verse 18 seems to imply - it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73957497


Next part of verse 18 - count the number of the beast

If one has understanding they are told to start counting.

If we want to count the number of the beast - we have to know what the beast is.

Is this beast the new world order (verse 1), or the antichrist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39562034


The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

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If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
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One thing to note in Rev 13:17 is it doesn't say just victory over his number, but victory over the number of his name.

Many people speculate that 666 is the number of letters the AC has in his name i.e. Edward has 6 letters.

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Notice it also says - the name of the beast.

Perhaps we need the name of the beast to figure out the number of his name?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73928595


Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding

We're told he won't be revealed unto he stands in the temple declaring he is god.

Is it possible to figure out who it is before that time?

Verse 18 seems to imply - it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73957497


Next part of verse 18 - count the number of the beast

If one has understanding they are told to start counting.

If we want to count the number of the beast - we have to know what the beast is.

Is this beast the new world order (verse 1), or the antichrist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39562034


The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

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If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74193672


These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
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Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding

We're told he won't be revealed unto he stands in the temple declaring he is god.

Is it possible to figure out who it is before that time?

Verse 18 seems to imply - it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73957497


Next part of verse 18 - count the number of the beast

If one has understanding they are told to start counting.

If we want to count the number of the beast - we have to know what the beast is.

Is this beast the new world order (verse 1), or the antichrist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39562034


The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

-----

If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74193672


These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
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Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

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These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
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Here's and interesting way to arrive at the number 666 - the number of the beast and man....

English is the world's single most widespread language:

A= 1 x 6 = 6, B = 2 x 6 = 12, C = 3 x 6 = 18, D = 4 x 6 = 24, E = 5 x 6 = 30, etc.

K= 66
I= 54
S= 114
S= 114
I = 54
N= 84
G= 42
E= 30
R= 108
+ 666

Kissinger's name equates to '666' by a simple formula.
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Next part of verse 18 - count the number of the beast

If one has understanding they are told to start counting.

If we want to count the number of the beast - we have to know what the beast is.

Is this beast the new world order (verse 1), or the antichrist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39562034


The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

-----

If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74193672


These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41547342


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

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These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
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It's not unusual for God to refer to a country or an entity as a man or woman.


Take the Woman in Rev 12 - here he is referring to Israel:

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars

Therefore, it's not a great stretch for the beast to be a country and God refer to it as a man.
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The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

-----

If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74193672


These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41547342


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

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These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


There are verses that make a clear distinction between the beast being an empire and others where that distinction is blurred.

One example of a clear distinction is Daniel 7:

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns....
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These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41547342


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

------

These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


There are verses that make a clear distinction between the beast being an empire and others where that distinction is blurred.

One example of a clear distinction is Daniel 7:

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns....
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Here the distinction is blurred:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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The question whether we are speaking of the antichrist or the beast when determining who the number 666 refers to is made even more difficult when we look at the following verses:

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast....and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

15 life [was given] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak....

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit....

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken.....cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:3 [devil] was cast into the bottomless pit

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast [is]

-----

If you notice the devil is cast into the bottomless pit - and it looks as though he may be the beast in Rev 17:8
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74193672


These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41547342


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

------

These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


Ten horns are ten countries that turn themselves over to the muzz antichrist:
1) Sweden
2) France
3) Germany
4) Britain
5) Canada
6) Holland
7) Netherland
8) Australia
9) Austria
10) United States , but Trump brings it back from the brink and gives the beast a head wound

Maybe maybe ?? I dunno much but this kinda makes sense
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These few verses point to who is really running the show...(the end times god of this world).

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

9 ...he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the devil which gave power unto the beast....
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Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

------

These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


Ten horns are ten countries that turn themselves over to the muzz antichrist:
1) Sweden
2) France
3) Germany
4) Britain
5) Canada
6) Holland
7) Netherland
8) Australia
9) Austria
10) United States , but Trump brings it back from the brink and gives the beast a head wound

Maybe maybe ?? I dunno much but this kinda makes sense
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I do think you are correct that these countries have handed themselves over to satan.

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I hate long posts - but in order to explain a few things I have to cite verses among other things.

First of all - the beast has 7 heads and 10 horns. It is the 7th head that is wounded. The US isn't the 7th head.

I has to be a country - that was, then was not, and them is.

The EU qualifies here. The Roman empire - was, was not and now is revived in the EU.

Rev 13, 17 & 18

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A muzz can't be the antichrist for 2 reasons.

1 - Dan 8:23 says when the transgressors come to a full (recognize God) the antichrist will stand up.

2 - Ezekiel 39:22-26 - tells us after the gog magog war - the Jewish people (transgressors) finally recognize God, and becomes a spiritual nation; instead of secular like it is now.

3 - Also after the gog magog war the heathen (muslims) now see God in all his glory.

Therefore, they now know that it is Israel's God who is all powerful - not allah.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me

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According to Jesus in Matt 24 - the antichrist comes right before the great tribulation.

Meaning - the gog magog war starts before the great tribulation.

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To summarize:

Gog magog war
Muslims see the real God of this universe
antichrist arises
great tribulation
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Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222385


Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

------

These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


Ten horns are ten countries that turn themselves over to the muzz antichrist:
1) Sweden
2) France
3) Germany
4) Britain
5) Canada
6) Holland
7) Netherland
8) Australia
9) Austria
10) United States , but Trump brings it back from the brink and gives the beast a head wound

Maybe maybe ?? I dunno much but this kinda makes sense
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I do think you are correct that these countries have handed themselves over to satan.

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I hate long posts - but in order to explain a few things I have to cite verses among other things.

First of all - the beast has 7 heads and 10 horns. It is the 7th head that is wounded. The US isn't the 7th head.

It has to be a country - that was, then was not, and then is.

The EU qualifies here. The Roman empire - was, was not and now is revived in the EU.

Rev 13, 17 & 18

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A muzz can't be the antichrist for 2 reasons.

1 - Dan 8:23 says when the transgressors come to a full (recognize God) the antichrist will stand up.

2 - Ezekiel 39:22-26 - tells us after the gog magog war - the Jewish people (transgressors) finally recognize God, and becomes a spiritual nation; instead of secular like it is now.

Also after the gog magog war the heathen (muslims) now see God in all his glory.

Therefore, they now know that it is Israel's God who is all powerful - not allah.

Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me

---

According to Jesus in Matt 24 - the antichrist comes right before the great tribulation.

Meaning - the gog magog war starts before the great tribulation.

----

To summarize:

Gog magog war
Muslims see the real God of this universe
antichrist arises
great tribulation
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Needed to make a few corrections to above post for readability.
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Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a [the devil], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,

----

These verses appear to be the same.

However the devil has the crowns on the heads & the beast crowns on the horns.

The crowns meaning authority....
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Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

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These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
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There are verses that make a clear distinction between the beast being an empire and others where that distinction is blurred.

One example of a clear distinction is Daniel 7:

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns....
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Here the distinction is blurred:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74298384


Reading all of Rev 13 - it's difficult to determine where we can say the beast is the antichrist.

He's first mentioned as the mouth of the beast.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion....

We're never told when he transitions to a man.

This verse is about the closest thing to making this transition:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months....
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Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast....

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These kings give their 'kingdom' (global world order) to the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74239753


There are verses that make a clear distinction between the beast being an empire and others where that distinction is blurred.

One example of a clear distinction is Daniel 7:

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns....
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Here the distinction is blurred:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74298384


Reading all of Rev 13 - it's difficult to determine where we can say the beast is the antichrist.

He's first mentioned as the mouth of the beast.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion....

We're never told when he transitions to a man.

This verse is about the closest thing to making this transition:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months....
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The use of the word 'him' is very important as the mouth.

In Daniel 11 - we see 'him' and 'he' refer to the antichrist in the latter days.

Perhaps we can extrapolate this usuage in Daniel 11 to Rev 13.

If we can do that - from here on in we can assume the beast is the antichrist.

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Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind
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There are verses that make a clear distinction between the beast being an empire and others where that distinction is blurred.

One example of a clear distinction is Daniel 7:

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74270653


Here the distinction is blurred:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74298384


Reading all of Rev 13 - it's difficult to determine where we can say the beast is the antichrist.

He's first mentioned as the mouth of the beast.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion....

We're never told when he transitions to a man.

This verse is about the closest thing to making this transition:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74255747


The use of the word 'him' is very important as the mouth.

In Daniel 11 - we see 'him' and 'he' refer to the antichrist in the latter days.

Perhaps we can extrapolate this usuage in Daniel 11 to Rev 13.

If we can do that - from here on in we can assume the beast is the antichrist.

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Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74372414


In order to know who the 'him' is - we must refer to other verses in Daniel & Matthew 24:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

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Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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Here the distinction is blurred:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74298384


Reading all of Rev 13 - it's difficult to determine where we can say the beast is the antichrist.

He's first mentioned as the mouth of the beast.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion....

We're never told when he transitions to a man.

This verse is about the closest thing to making this transition:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74255747


The use of the word 'him' is very important as the mouth.

In Daniel 11 - we see 'him' and 'he' refer to the antichrist in the latter days.

Perhaps we can extrapolate this usuage in Daniel 11 to Rev 13.

If we can do that - from here on in we can assume the beast is the antichrist.

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Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74372414


In order to know who the 'him' is - we must refer to other verses in Daniel & Matthew 24:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

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Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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I believe if we take verses in Daniel, Matthew 24, Rev 13 & 19, we can conclude the mark of the beast is the number of a man aka the antichrist and not the beast of Verse 1, Rev 13 (NWO).

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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In Mathew 24 Jesus' disciples ask when will the world end?

Jesus answered and said - When you SEE ALL these things - this is the generation that will see all prophecy fulfilled (Math 24:33).

He literally means seeing, i.e. through webcams, videos, computers etc.

What are ALL the things we shall SEE?

Earthquakes, disease and wars in many places around the world. (Math 24:7)

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lazyskate Here is a new Chick illustrated tract that covers these subjects.

ALMOST TIME... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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In Mathew 24 Jesus' disciples ask when will the world end?

Jesus answered and said - When you SEE ALL these things - this is the generation that will see all prophecy fulfilled (Math 24:33).

He literally means seeing, i.e. through webcams, videos, computers etc.

What are ALL the things we shall SEE?

Earthquakes, disease and wars in many places around the world. (Math 24:7)

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:lazyskate: Here is a new Chick illustrated tract that covers these subjects.

ALMOST TIME... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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Excellent!!
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Reading all of Rev 13 - it's difficult to determine where we can say the beast is the antichrist.

He's first mentioned as the mouth of the beast.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion....

We're never told when he transitions to a man.

This verse is about the closest thing to making this transition:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74255747


The use of the word 'him' is very important as the mouth.

In Daniel 11 - we see 'him' and 'he' refer to the antichrist in the latter days.

Perhaps we can extrapolate this usuage in Daniel 11 to Rev 13.

If we can do that - from here on in we can assume the beast is the antichrist.

----

Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74372414


In order to know who the 'him' is - we must refer to other verses in Daniel & Matthew 24:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

----

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

----

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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I believe if we take verses in Daniel, Matthew 24, Rev 13 & 19, we can conclude the mark of the beast is the number of a man aka the antichrist and not the beast of Verse 1, Rev 13 (NWO).

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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However, from other verses - we might conclude the mark of the beast is not a number at all;

But that it's actually the Beast's name - Rev 15:2 victory over the beast's mark...and

Rev 15:2 victory over the number of his name.

And the number is the number of his name i.e. something like a person's SSN or tax id.

Rev 14:11 - men will be tormented who receive the mark of his name

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Revelation 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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The use of the word 'him' is very important as the mouth.

In Daniel 11 - we see 'him' and 'he' refer to the antichrist in the latter days.

Perhaps we can extrapolate this usuage in Daniel 11 to Rev 13.

If we can do that - from here on in we can assume the beast is the antichrist.

----

Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74372414


In order to know who the 'him' is - we must refer to other verses in Daniel & Matthew 24:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

----

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

----

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67900736


I believe if we take verses in Daniel, Matthew 24, Rev 13 & 19, we can conclude the mark of the beast is the number of a man aka the antichrist and not the beast of Verse 1, Rev 13 (NWO).

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67900736


However, from other verses - we might conclude the mark of the beast is not a number at all;

But that it's actually the Beast's name - Rev 15:2 victory over the beast's mark...and

Rev 15:2 victory over the number of his name.

And the number is the number of his name i.e. something like a person's SSN or tax id.

Rev 14:11 - men will be tormented who receive the mark of his name

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Revelation 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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In answer to the question, is it the beast of verse 1 Rev 13, or the antichrist aka 'mouth' of the beast who the number 666 refers to - it's the antichrist.

The mouth is actually how the antichrist is introduced; making the transition of the beast as NWO entity, to the beast as a man.
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I would like to re-visit Rev 13

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

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Another way to count the number of the name of the antichrist is to add the letter of his entire name together - for instance 3 6's equals 18:

Recep Tayyip Erdogan = 18 characters

and if we use Donald Trump's full great-paternal name:

Donald John Drumpf, Sr. = 18

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OP, a bit of what you wrote is correct, but some of the stuff you are taking literally, that was symbolic, like the 2 witnesses, the person standing up high.

And as for Matthew 24:14, the Internet wasn't needed for that, as Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching "this good news of the kingdom" door to door all around the earth for decades.

The part about everyone being able to see and hear of reports of wars, and stuff like that mentioned in Matthew chapter 24, I can see how the Internet, and the TV -the news, and phones make this be seen all around the earth.
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who says he means that?
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who says he means that?
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I'm not sure what you are referring to -

But If it's Jesus

then let me ask you this question from Matthew 24:15

How can we see the antichrist in the temple from a field without a mobile device?:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

What we can tell from this is "the evil one" 2 Thes 2 is standing in the temple, declaring he is god.

Jesus says - when we see him flee.

This is a matter of great urgency.

An unanticipated event.
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I'm not sure what you are referring to -

But If it's Jesus

then let me ask you this question from Matthew 24:15

How can we see the antichrist in the temple from a field without a mobile device?:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

What we can tell from this is "the evil one" 2 Thes 2 is standing in the temple, declaring he is god.

Jesus says - when we see him flee.

This is a matter of great urgency.

An unanticipated event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74473793


Correction: For clarification

It is those in Judaea who are told to flee:

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

For the rest of us - when we SEE him in the temple:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


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