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Ding ding.. If you dig into project blue beam & others, & the same tech that went mainstream via seeding then mass disclosure of those European public transports using tech vibrations, frequency to put advertising into people's heads, no audio.. Look this up it was main stream global

Then go back to old foia on things from military psychological warfare projects.. This is nsa. Remeber when temple of set lp leader, satanist pentagon busted in massive scandal child sex & ritual at mil gov daycare centers, they all covered up let go.. MK ultra etc, the King pin lt. Col. Micheal Aquino. Was guilty, but bush promoted by bush to general, & head of NSA, & head of all mil psychological warfare for all branches of gov.. Search this name. See images, see kerry with him.. This is when chaplins rules in us gov made satanism accepted religion, this was in Washington mpnewspapers, international news.. This tied into iran contra, Franklin scandal, gannon gate (see images of daddy bush with missing children in sex trafficking, see Wvmany times different occasions kissing & hugging Jeff gannon, aka johnny gosch, "Consiracy of silence" the boys town use sex trafficking Monet work, the supplying for rituals at bohemian grove.. The deaths all related.. Russel "rusty" mpnelson tiring so official black mail photographer.. He was partners with Gozo project in snuff films at bohemian grove.. Day gannon gate went global public, they murdered hunter s. Thompson, arrested rusty (not kill because knew he hid pics all over the place). The investigators that got a cache of those photos heading back with them, plane blown up, pictures of child sex, abuse, torture, murder all over crash site.. In reports.. U must understand how sick the people in charge are.. & how & who promotes them.. Gulianni helped not prosecute the base sex abuse stuff.. Other judges, bohenpmian guys..

Look into missing nukes out of minot, all the murders , then massive investigation, head of this out of offit murdered plane in Va near Williamsburg old folks home.

Then removal of all airforce who control nukes, then what the "office of president" replaced them with.. NWO units.. No shit

They can in essence blue bean et al via cell phones, devices, the chips there.. Then same chip companies that had backing by holdings of bush cabal companies, & Rothschild company's r why the cars planes etc have those remote control activations.. The cash for clunkers scandal.

Smart meters..

TV cable boxes, mandatory digital requirements..

Then whistle blowers & we all know they have Audi & camera feeds.. Dvrs, online gaming systems, router boxes.. everything. Get it..

( I may not be able to get back on after posting the, happens often, or will get removed as soon as hit post)
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When Jesus said: knowledge will increase, people run to and fro, christians will be beheaded, earthquakes and disease will be in many places, many offended and especially EVIL WILL BE PREVALENT EVERYWHERE - he meant on a massive scale - no small peanuts.

We are see ALL these things on a global massive scale.

So we can definitely be certain we are in end times.
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Great Article here on Daniel 12. Not sure if we agree on Chapter 11, but I'm posting this because it is my thoughts exactly. After all, why reinvent the wheel, when it's already been done :)

Daniel 12:1-13

God has definite future plans for the nation of Israel and the chastening that they will endure is to "try them, purge them and make them white" meaning pure. (Daniel 11:35) This last chapter of the Book of Daniel addresses Israel during the period of testing and purifying in the seven years before the coming of the Messiah. God is giving Israel the sure hope that in the end they would be saved and God's promises to them fulfilled. As Chapter 11 explains for a period their future would be dark because they refused to obey and put their trust in the Lord and accept the Messiah. Satan's counterfeit, the Antichrist, will deceive them and thus bring on them a terrible time of unprecedented persecution. God, however assures Daniel that in the end they would be restored and have peace in the kingdom set up by the Messiah.

The Lord explains to Daniel that "at that time," clearly meaning the events of Daniel 11:35-45, Israel's protector angel Michael, shall "stand up." This is God's appointed time to allow Michael, "the great prince which standeth for thy people, to begin to aggressively protect and defend Israel against the Devil. During the events of the preceding verses, the Antichrist will cause the greatest persecution that Israel has ever endured which includes 2000 years of oppression and the Holocaust of WWII under the Nazis. Jeremiah 30:7 refers to this terrible times as "Jacob's trouble." "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it" ( Jer. 30:7). The events recorded in Chapter 12 begin after the Antichrist desecrates the Temple and seeks destroy Israel and wipe them from the face of the earth.

Jesus spoke of this period in Matthew 24:21-22 saying "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." This parallels the statement of Daniel 12:1, "there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation." Zechariah foretold this time warning that two thirds of the Jews would be killed, "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God" (Zechariah 13:8-9 ).

God will not allow His chosen people to be destroyed and He will keep His promises to them. Therefore, God sends Michael to protect Israel during this time when they are threaten with annihilation to preserve them. Michael preserves one third of the ruminant of the Jews, who will survive the Great Tribulation and go into the Millennium kingdom and repopulate the earth. Daniel 12:1 explains, "and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." Revelation 12:6 also explains that Israel would be protected for 1260 days. (Also see Rev. 12:14, 13:5f) Note that this passage clearly teaches that only those who names are found written in the book are saved. The Jews are not assured of salvation based solely on their nationality, but like all men, their salvation is dependent on their belief and receiving Jesus as the Savior and Christ. It seems tragic that only one third of Israel is saved, but that means that for the first time in history millions of Jews will accept that Jesus is the Messiah and will in repentance turn to Him for their salvation. The Jewish Virtual Library estimates the world population to be 14,596,000 Jews. If the population remains the same when the Tribulation begins, that means an estimated five millions Jews would be saved. 1 These Jews living in the seven year Tribulation, along with probably millions of Gentiles, will understand the prophecies about the end time and will reject the Antichrist and refuse the "mark of the Beast." (See Rev. 13:17, 14:11, 16:2, 19:20, 20:4) Most of the world, however, will be deceived and under pressure receive the mark and worship the Antichrist and thus be condemned for all eternity.
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So what we have in Daniel 12 is a series of conversations between the angels and Jesus and Daniel and Jesus.

I mentioned I wanted to start at the end and work forward.

The reason being is, first the angel tells Daniel what is to happen and as history unfolded and the prophesies proved to be accurate, interpreted them.

Here's what the angel tells Daniel will happen in the last 3 1/2 years:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


Here we see Daniel will rest until he is resurrected in some form at the very end of time.


Another reason I started from the end instead of the beginning is the timeline that is given to Daniel until the end of time.

This is important because he starts from the time the holy sanctuary is defiled. Most expositors don't include this in the end time scenario. But since God does through his interpreter the angel, so am I. Most say Antiochus did this, but I'm sticking with what God says in this particular instance. I know that Antiochus did defile the holy sanctuary, but not at the end of time - which is where I believe we are today.

Chapter 12 of Daniel tells us that the holy people have their own guardian angel watching over them. Many jews are taught they are all going to heaven, however, Chapter 12 seems to contradict this.

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

This is pretty repetitious of the commentary I posted - but wanted to include the verses.
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Two very important points to understand in Daniel 12 is, from the time the antichrist takes away the daily sacrifice - there will only be 3 1/2 years left until the end of the world as we know it.

The other is - after the antichrist does this the great tribulation begins - Mathew 24.

Where do we learn about this daily sacrifice being taken away?

Chapter 11.
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Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
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We find a different approach in Revelation to the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard).

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
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Didn't jesus teach in forums, where he got banned and such stuff???
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Didn't jesus teach in forums, where he got banned and such stuff???
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LOL

Guarantee you - if Jesus taught in forums today - he would be banned in every one of them.

Even some christian forums!!
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Didn't jesus teach in forums, where he got banned and such stuff???
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LOL

Guarantee you - if Jesus taught in forums today - he would be banned in every one of them.

Even some christian forums!!
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I have learned that Jesus did teach and preach in Forums... most of time people didn't like what he said, was told to me...
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Didn't jesus teach in forums, where he got banned and such stuff???
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LOL

Guarantee you - if Jesus taught in forums today - he would be banned in every one of them.

Even some christian forums!!
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I have learned that Jesus did teach and preach in Forums... most of time people didn't like what he said, was told to me...
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Never know what our Dear Father in Heaven has in store for us.

If he sends an angel down to guide us - and we reject him, that's all the more reason for God to Destroy this world.

Sure wish we would stop giving God LOT's of reasons to destroy us!!
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

Anyone who READS the account can figure this out.

Three questions were asked of Jesus at the beginning. He answered their first two, and the answer was ALL ABOUT what was to come in 70AD.....the destruction of Jerusalem by the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place. (that being the Roman Army destroying the temple, and how to escape that judgement)

The third question was about His return. And He said there would be NO signs. NO warnings. So if you are looking for earthquakes, wars, rumors of wars, etc to WARN you of Christ's coming......you have been FOOLED AGAIN.

It is VERY simple folks. Prophecy has been FULFILLED IN CHRIST. There is ONLY ONE THING LEFT.

Christ's return/our judgement. And again, if you think there is a SIGN to look for, you are sadly mistaken.

The Word tells us that ONLY the Father knows that day.
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So this is not a sign then?


Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


Sarcasm Alert
Ok whew glad I didnt fall for that.


Fawke This
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

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Amen! To think that the people of that day weren't concerned about matters immediate to them, to think that they cared about writing warnings to some advanced society 2000 years in the future, is LUNACY.

With all the troubles in our world today, can you imagine someone getting "revelations from God" and writing warnings to people in a world 2,000 years from now?!?!

.
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60773203


Amen! To think that the people of that day weren't concerned about matters immediate to them, to think that they cared about writing warnings to some advanced society 2000 years in the future, is LUNACY.

With all the troubles in our world today, can you imagine someone getting "revelations from God" and writing warnings to people in a world 2,000 years from now?!?!

.
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Yes it is amazing!!

What is amazing is 2000 yrs ago

Jesus told us we would be able to see earthquakes, disease and famine is many places.

This is only possible the last few years:

[link to ds.iris.edu]

He said there will be a time that we would SEE from a field or rooftop some person standing in the temple:

Only possible now with smartphones.

He said we would have political correctness that will be prevalent around the entire world. many offended. sooooo true.

He said evil would abound - boy does it.

He said his word will be spread to all nations. So how is that possible without mass communications?

Mock him all you want - because he said you would do that too.

Not only that - christians would be hated for spreading the word.

Also he said knowledge would increase worldwide.

These are only a few prophecies true today-

They all have to be true at same time and they are!!

I'll go with someone who is 100% correct and not man who knows nothing.
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I think you're right OP, good catch. As long as we remember we're all beggars before God we should be ok. It's when we think we're smarter than or equal to God that we're really in trouble. Bertrand Russel back in the 20th century philosophised that we were all figments of God's imagination a theory that is proven by the holographic principal. People deny it because they lack faith or more to the point don't want to believe.

Good luck OP!
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

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Amen! To think that the people of that day weren't concerned about matters immediate to them, to think that they cared about writing warnings to some advanced society 2000 years in the future, is LUNACY.

With all the troubles in our world today, can you imagine someone getting "revelations from God" and writing warnings to people in a world 2,000 years from now?!?!

.
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That only works for part of the sermon as the 'complete sermon' need Mark:13 and Luke:24 before it shows that the abomination that causes a departure compared to being surrounded by armies as being the sign to depart.

The selection below is referencing what Revelation covers until the word 'before' and then it is talking about the Apostles in Jerusalem after Stephen is killed until the 70AD event and the start of the 'time of the Gentiles' and then it jumps into what is still future for us and Re:11 says the 'time of the Gentiles' has 42 months left.

Lu:21:10-25:
Then said he unto them,
Nation shall rise against nation,
and kingdom against kingdom:
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,
and famines,
and pestilences;
and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
But before all these,
they shall lay their hands on you,
and persecute you,
delivering you up to the synagogues,
and into prisons,
being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
Settle it therefore in your hearts,
not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
For I will give you a mouth and wisdom,
which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
And ye shall be betrayed both by parents,
and brethren,
and kinsfolks, and friends;
and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
In your patience possess ye your souls.
And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies,
then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out;
and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
For these be the days of vengeance,
that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child,
and to them that give suck,
in those days!
for there shall be great distress in the land,
and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,
and shall be led away captive into all nations:
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,
until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

And there shall be signs in the sun,
and in the moon,
and in the stars;
and upon the earth distress of nations,
with perplexity;
the sea and the waves roaring;

The sign would be exclusive to the trumps and the 1st one starts 1260 days before the 2 witnesses are killed so the 4 trumps are all sounded in 4 days and the 5 and 6 take 3 1/2 years to unfold.
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I think you're right OP, good catch. As long as we remember we're all beggars before God we should be ok. It's when we think we're smarter than or equal to God that we're really in trouble. Bertrand Russel back in the 20th century philosophised that we were all figments of God's imagination a theory that is proven by the holographic principal. People deny it because they lack faith or more to the point don't want to believe.

Good luck OP!
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Thank you hf
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What has the slavery of 400 years in agyp with the 144000 sealed persons from the 12 tribes of israel in revelation to do? (400 years * 360 days( a biblical year))〓144000!!! Can anyone help me with this question?i had this find out a couple of days back,when i locked at the manY matematical symbols and signs in the bible...
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60773203


Amen! To think that the people of that day weren't concerned about matters immediate to them, to think that they cared about writing warnings to some advanced society 2000 years in the future, is LUNACY.

With all the troubles in our world today, can you imagine someone getting "revelations from God" and writing warnings to people in a world 2,000 years from now?!?!

.
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That only works for part of the sermon as the 'complete sermon' need Mark:13 and Luke:24 before it shows that the abomination that causes a departure compared to being surrounded by armies as being the sign to depart.

The selection below is referencing what Revelation covers until the word 'before' and then it is talking about the Apostles in Jerusalem after Stephen is killed until the 70AD event and the start of the 'time of the Gentiles' and then it jumps into what is still future for us and Re:11 says the 'time of the Gentiles' has 42 months left.

Lu:21:10-25:
Then said he unto them,
Nation shall rise against nation,
and kingdom against kingdom:
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,
and famines,
and pestilences;
and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
But before all these,
they shall lay their hands on you,
and persecute you,
delivering you up to the synagogues,
and into prisons,
being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
Settle it therefore in your hearts,
not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
For I will give you a mouth and wisdom,
which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
And ye shall be betrayed both by parents,
and brethren,
and kinsfolks, and friends;
and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
In your patience possess ye your souls.
And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies,
then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out;
and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
For these be the days of vengeance,
that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child,
and to them that give suck,
in those days!
for there shall be great distress in the land,
and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,
and shall be led away captive into all nations:
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,
until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

And there shall be signs in the sun,
and in the moon,
and in the stars;
and upon the earth distress of nations,
with perplexity;
the sea and the waves roaring;

The sign would be exclusive to the trumps and the 1st one starts 1260 days before the 2 witnesses are killed so the 4 trumps are all sounded in 4 days and the 5 and 6 take 3 1/2 years to unfold.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Posted this awhile back

Trumpet judgements:

7 Trumpet judgements: 1/3 of all trees destroyed, all grass burned up. Sun, moon stars all effect what is going to happen on earth(differently).

1/3 of sea life, and ships - die and destroyed-fukushima
The fresh water supply becomes poisonous.

Men that received mark are tortured 5 months

Another 1/3 part men dies (war? ELE????) in a little over a year.

Meanwhile the earth is going through such turmoil everyone is asking what is going on - sound familiar?

2 witnesses will appear - and preach the gospel. After 31/2 years will be killed by beast.


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Didn't jesus teach in forums, where he got banned and such stuff???
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LOL

Guarantee you - if Jesus taught in forums today - he would be banned in every one of them.

Even some christian forums!!
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I have learned that Jesus did teach and preach in Forums... most of time people didn't like what he said, was told to me...
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Never know what our Dear Father in Heaven has in store for us.

If he sends an angel down to guide us - and we reject him, that's all the more reason for God to Destroy this world.

Sure wish we would stop giving God LOT's of reasons to destroy us!!
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Jesus violated many regulations in Forums and Agora's, were he spend his time proclaiming the Kingdom to come and warning about the wrath of heaven because they failed to listen to salvic words and about the sins of man. Man who violated Laws and Times...

Agora is as what we call today; Usenet... and serves as a forum, as a place where ideas were exchanged or sold, Until Forums became the leading place to exchange ideas of all kind...

Rome wanted the Agor's destroyed because they had no control over what people said there... so they invented Forums which were moderated and could better control the thoughts of the visitors, seeking knowledge and information. With the hope their High Priest could continue the conspiracies, hoaxes and lies sold by the Roman information system. In that sense, the Agora's messages are great challenge to them(Rome).

Jesus, or like certain other philosophers were known to challenges the crowds, with all kind of messages, about astronomy, history or current events, theology etc... Practically the same subject we read here on GLP or in other regulated forums. Thoughtful people rely on these forums or Agora's to explain the nature of human existence to help them cope with a world of suffering.

Saul(Paul) was a troll who persecuted Jesus, in the Agora's groups... but Paul was also the only one who knew the message or the teaching of Jesus... he had been listening very careful to jesus all the time... but he trolled Jesus, He shouted that Jesus was a liar or that his words would never become truth and other evil things to bring Jesus in discredit in public view...

Paul fond himself confronted, the day the signs Jesus spoke about became flesh... then Saul changed his evil way's and became the first to proclaim jesus message... the miracle occurred and Jesus became famous in the whole world in just one day and night...

The OP is right... Jesus coming requires TV, Computers and Iphones, Usenet and even GLP...

And In meantime the Agora have become an empty place where Jesus was found amongst a few others still teaching in the ruins, simply because access to the Forums was denied for them and their words... (what we call here IP Banned and their message erased from the history role.)

No Jesus didn't visit churches, cathedrals, Mosques or synagogues... he made War against those who occupied those places...

This Gospel is the truth which was erased form your holy books, currently in the hands of criminal High priest and false teacher...

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LOL

Guarantee you - if Jesus taught in forums today - he would be banned in every one of them.

Even some christian forums!!
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I have learned that Jesus did teach and preach in Forums... most of time people didn't like what he said, was told to me...
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Never know what our Dear Father in Heaven has in store for us.

If he sends an angel down to guide us - and we reject him, that's all the more reason for God to Destroy this world.

Sure wish we would stop giving God LOT's of reasons to destroy us!!
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Jesus violated many regulations in Forums and Agora's, were he spend his time proclaiming the Kingdom to come and warning about the wrath of heaven because they failed to listen to salvic words and about the sins of man. Man who violated Laws and Times...

Agora is as what we call today; Usenet... and serves as a forum, as a place where ideas were exchanged or sold, Until Forums became the leading place to exchange ideas of all kind...

Rome wanted the Agor's destroyed because they had no control over what people said there... so they invented Forums which were moderated and could better control the thoughts of the visitors, seeking knowledge and information. With the hope their High Priest could continue the conspiracies, hoaxes and lies sold by the Roman information system. In that sense, the Agora's messages are great challenge to them(Rome).

Jesus, or like certain other philosophers were known to challenges the crowds, with all kind of messages, about astronomy, history or current events, theology etc... Practically the same subject we read here on GLP or in other regulated forums. Thoughtful people rely on these forums or Agora's to explain the nature of human existence to help them cope with a world of suffering.

Saul(Paul) was a troll who persecuted Jesus, in the Agora's groups... but Paul was also the only one who knew the message or the teaching of Jesus... he had been listening very careful to jesus all the time... but he trolled Jesus, He shouted that Jesus was a liar or that his words would never become truth and other evil things to bring Jesus in discredit in public view...

Paul fond himself confronted, the day the signs Jesus spoke about became flesh... then Saul changed his evil way's and became the first to proclaim jesus message... the miracle occurred and Jesus became famous in the whole world in just one day and night...

The OP is right... Jesus coming requires TV, Computers and Iphones, Usenet and even GLP...

And In meantime the Agora have become an empty place where Jesus was found amongst a few others still teaching in the ruins, simply because access to the Forums was denied for them and their words... (what we call here IP Banned and their message erased from the history role.)

No Jesus didn't visit churches, cathedrals, Mosques or synagogues... he made War against those who occupied those places...

This Gospel is the truth which was erased form your holy books, currently in the hands of criminal High priest and false teacher...

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You are quite correct in your assessment - especially with evil wanting to shut down "open forums" and discussions; using political correctness to boot - just as Jesus said they would.

Of course, we know they will win - for the time being.

However, in the end "Jesus wins".

Amen.
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The SUN and the MOON were created the 4th day of creation in Genesis...and there was light BEFORE the 4th day!!!!
It's because there was electricity/illumination..
Genesis Chapter 1

Just like it is once again!!!
We have no need of the light of the sun or moon
....because we have electricity......again.
Revelation 21:22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.Ö

In the beginning Electricity
In the end Electricity


Take for example:
The burning bush..
Exodus 3:
2The angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed. 3So Moses said, "I must turn aside now and see this marvelous sight, why the bush is not burned up."Ö

Simply a bush with
lighting on it..
Like that of a Christmas Tree.
The burning bush is the Christmas tree
Christmas the celebration of
Christ's birthday.

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
uke 17:24
For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other.


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So what we have in Daniel 12 is a series of conversations between the angels and Jesus and Daniel and Jesus.

I mentioned I wanted to start at the end and work forward.

The reason being is, first the angel tells Daniel what is to happen and as history unfolded and the prophesies proved to be accurate, interpreted them.

Here's what the angel tells Daniel will happen in the last 3 1/2 years:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


Here we see Daniel will rest until he is resurrected in some form at the very end of time.


Another reason I started from the end instead of the beginning is the timeline that is given to Daniel until the end of time.

This is important because he starts from the time the holy sanctuary is defiled. Most expositors don't include this in the end time scenario. But since God does through his interpreter the angel, so am I. Most say Antiochus did this, but I'm sticking with what God says in this particular instance. I know that Antiochus did defile the holy sanctuary, but not at the end of time - which is where I believe we are today.

Chapter 12 of Daniel tells us that the holy people have their own guardian angel watching over them. Many jews are taught they are all going to heaven, however, Chapter 12 seems to contradict this.

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

This is pretty repetitious of the commentary I posted - but wanted to include the verses.
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Two very important points to understand in Daniel 12 is, from the time the antichrist takes away the daily sacrifice - there will only be 3 1/2 years left until the end of the world as we know it.

The other is - after the antichrist does this the great tribulation begins - Mathew 24.

Where do we learn about this daily sacrifice being taken away?

Chapter 11.
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Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
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We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
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Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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Two very important points to understand in Daniel 12 is, from the time the antichrist takes away the daily sacrifice - there will only be 3 1/2 years left until the end of the world as we know it.

The other is - after the antichrist does this the great tribulation begins - Mathew 24.

Where do we learn about this daily sacrifice being taken away?

Chapter 11.
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Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
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We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
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Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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I've covered this in another thread, and since we're dealing with chapter 7 Daniel and Revelation would like to add it here:

Something that occurred to me about the fourth beast of Daniel 7:

Is the 4th beast of Daniel 7 - here today?

The fourth beast of Daniel 7 - devours entire earth, breaks into pieces

"It" will be diverse from ALL kingdoms that ever existed.

So "it" is not a country, consortium of countries i.e. EU, or empire like Roman empire.

It doesn't have an animal associated with it - i.e. lion=UK, bear=Russia.

Will not (at first) have centralized power or a king; but has 10 horns with no crown. Satan in Rev 12 has 12 horns and no crown.

But "It" will still control and devour the earth.

How is this possible? IMHO, With political correction.

A person can be fired, killed, incarcerated for uttering a single word, phrase or posting a picture.

This kingdom will last until the end of the world.
Kingdoms may come and go - not this one. However, it is NOT the antichrist's end time kingdom. He may use it, but it's not the Leopard, lion, bear - because we are told it is diverse from ALL before it.

We know the dragon is satan - so satan is essentially the controlling force of "it".

Is Satan in Daniel 7 - using the internet to peddle his evil and influence and political correctness to control everyone? Sure seems like it.
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Correction previous post:

Satan in Rev 12 has 12 horns and no crown.

should be:

Satan in Rev 12 has 10 horns and no crown.
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Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
uke 17:24
For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other.
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It may be worth noting that lightning doesn't uniformly flash from east to west. The same Greek word they somehow translated as "lightning" here is used to describe the shining of a candle over in Luke 11. It just means "light" in general. The light we're familiar with that goes from east to west is the sun. Instead of occurring instantaneously, it's going to happen gradually like the sun arising over a new day - only those awake early will see it at first, but before long it will enlighten everything and all will see. Compare with Malachi 4.
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Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
uke 17:24
For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other.
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It may be worth noting that lightning doesn't uniformly flash from east to west. The same Greek word they somehow translated as "lightning" here is used to describe the shining of a candle over in Luke 11. It just means "light" in general. The light we're familiar with that goes from east to west is the sun. Instead of occurring instantaneously, it's going to happen gradually like the sun arising over a new day - only those awake early will see it at first, but before long it will enlighten everything and all will see. Compare with Malachi 4.
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Thanks for pointing out the end times prophecies in Malachi 4 - Appears the Sun will burn those that are wicked and heal those that fear the Lord:

4 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
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Two very important points to understand in Daniel 12 is, from the time the antichrist takes away the daily sacrifice - there will only be 3 1/2 years left until the end of the world as we know it.

The other is - after the antichrist does this the great tribulation begins - Mathew 24.

Where do we learn about this daily sacrifice being taken away?

Chapter 11.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68534220


Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

---------------------

He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68536535


We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68548973


Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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Perhaps the USA is not part of the first beast - because it represents the 2nd beast?

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The second beast is better known as the false prophet.

I don't want to dwell on the false prophet for long - because I want to focus on the antichrist, so I'll give a quick description.

Jesus in the bible is the lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

This false prophet is a lamb that speaks with satan's mouth.

Therefore it is an apostate christian nation.

I can only ask - what has happened to the USA lately?

We are clearly turning away from God and Jesus in every arena be it Govt, schools, even churches are falling away.

Which is why I'm open to the USA being the false prophet at this time.
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To the OP of this thread and anyone else who has been misled by false teachers concerning Matt 24 and what Jesus said.

First of all, they WERE prophecies. Secondly, Jesus said that THIS (meaning the people he was speaking to) generation will SEE these things. Thirdly, those "things" happened about 40 years after Jesus said them.

They are NOT about modern day times. NOT NOT NOT

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Amen! To think that the people of that day weren't concerned about matters immediate to them, to think that they cared about writing warnings to some advanced society 2000 years in the future, is LUNACY.

With all the troubles in our world today, can you imagine someone getting "revelations from God" and writing warnings to people in a world 2,000 years from now?!?!

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Thing is - Nobody including Jesus knew when any of the end times prophecies would happen.

Remember Jesus said - Nobody knows, not me nor the angels above knows - only the Father in heaven knows when these things will take place.

So - they didn't have a clue about the time frame.

And your right "With all the troubles in our world today" - hits the nail on the head. We are in what Jesus called the "time of sorrows".
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Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

---------------------

He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68536535


We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68548973


Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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I've covered this in another thread, and since we're dealing with chapter 7 Daniel and Revelation would like to add it here:

Something that occurred to me about the fourth beast of Daniel 7:

Is the 4th beast of Daniel 7 - here today?

The fourth beast of Daniel 7 - devours entire earth, breaks into pieces

"It" will be diverse from ALL kingdoms that ever existed.

So "it" is not a country, consortium of countries i.e. EU, or empire like Roman empire.

It doesn't have an animal associated with it - i.e. lion=UK, bear=Russia.

Will not (at first) have centralized power or a king; but has 10 horns with no crown. Satan in Rev 12 has 10 horns and no crown.

But "It" will still control and devour the earth.

How is this possible? IMHO, With political correction.

A person can be fired, killed, incarcerated for uttering a single word, phrase or posting a picture.

This kingdom will last until the end of the world.
Kingdoms may come and go - not this one. However, it is NOT the antichrist's end time kingdom. He may use it, but it's not the Leopard, lion, bear - because we are told it is diverse from ALL before it.

We know the dragon is satan - so satan is essentially the controlling force of "it".

Is Satan in Daniel 7 - using the internet to peddle his evil and influence and political correctness to control everyone? Sure seems like it.
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IMHO - this movement is taking over the world - using the internet....

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(CNSNews.com) -- President Barack Obama and his outgoing attorney general, Eric Holder, are, along with "progressives" in government, forcing "a new morality" on the American people, a "morality that does not include God" and which is "an Anti-Christ movement," said Reverend Franklin Graham.

"There is an anti-Christian bias that is now in our government, has permeated our government, thatís also permeated Washington but [also] at the state and local level," said Rev. Graham during a Mar. 11 interview on Washington Watch With Tony Perkins.

"Itís the progressives, whatever you want to call them, that are trying -- and the president is into this and the attorney general is into this 100% -- and that is, forcing on the American people a new morality," said Rev. Graham. "And itís a morality that does not include God or His standards. Thatís what weíre facing today."

"It is an Anti-Christ movement that weíre seeing taking place," he said.
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Here is the verse in daniel 11 Jesus is referring to:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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He'll win support of the people using flattery - but there will be those who resist and will die for their resistance.

32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appoint
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We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
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Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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Perhaps the USA is not part of the first beast - because it represents the 2nd beast?

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The second beast is better known as the false prophet.

I don't want to dwell on the false prophet for long - because I want to focus on the antichrist, so I'll give a quick description.

Jesus in the bible is the lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

This false prophet is a lamb that speaks with satan's mouth.

Therefore it is an apostate christian nation.

I can only ask - what has happened to the USA lately?

We are clearly turning away from God and Jesus in every arena be it Govt, schools, even churches are falling away.

Which is why I'm open to the USA being the false prophet at this time.
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The entire world will worship this beast

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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At the time Revelation was written the ten kings did not exist.

However, when they do - they will surrender their power to the antichrist.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised.

However, it would be a very dumb move for the entire earth for many reasons.

One of them being all our nuclear reactors would meltdown when all goes dark.

Another thing, it's too soon - Dollar is still Reserve currency.

Just too many factors would take every one with it.
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We find a different description in Revelation of the Beast or antichrist as I have been calling him.

When we meet him here he has already achieved great power and authority.

He is a composite of many animals we have already been familiarized with in Daniel 7(lion, bear, leopard), instead of separate beasts.

This beast of Revelation is like unto a leopard, with feet of a bear and mouth of a lion.

As I mentioned before there are no eagles wings in Revelation, like there is in Daniel 7 - so no USA.

Revelation 13

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
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Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
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Perhaps the USA is not part of the first beast - because it represents the 2nd beast?

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The second beast is better known as the false prophet.

I don't want to dwell on the false prophet for long - because I want to focus on the antichrist, so I'll give a quick description.

Jesus in the bible is the lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

This false prophet is a lamb that speaks with satan's mouth.

Therefore it is an apostate christian nation.

I can only ask - what has happened to the USA lately?

We are clearly turning away from God and Jesus in every arena be it Govt, schools, even churches are falling away.

Which is why I'm open to the USA being the false prophet at this time.
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The entire world will worship this beast

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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At the time Revelation was written the ten kings did not exist.

However, when they do - they will surrender their power to the antichrist.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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Of course, one can't have a commentary about the antichrist without mentioning the Mark of the Beast:

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


What must be stressed here is once someone takes the mark they are lost forever; meaning they will spend eternity in hell.
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Analyzing Daniel 7 and Revelation 13.

In Daniel 7 we have the fourth beast - devouring the earth before the antichrist (little horn) appears.

So the beast is already in control of the world.

In Revelation 13 - the beast with 10 kings appears - without the 11th horn i.e. the antichrist.

It takes the beast to receive a mortal wound before the antichrist even appears.

I've speculated that the demise of the Mystery babylon (worldwide economic collapse), could cause a mortal wound to the beast.

After the beast dies so to speak - albeit for a short time, the little horn makes an entrance. (Rev 13:5).

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (3 1/2 years).

This is our little horn in Daniel 7?

We would have a revived beast and a little horn (antichrist).

And I would like to address where USA might show up in this chapter of Revelation next.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68560868


Perhaps the USA is not part of the first beast - because it represents the 2nd beast?

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The second beast is better known as the false prophet.

I don't want to dwell on the false prophet for long - because I want to focus on the antichrist, so I'll give a quick description.

Jesus in the bible is the lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

This false prophet is a lamb that speaks with satan's mouth.

Therefore it is an apostate christian nation.

I can only ask - what has happened to the USA lately?

We are clearly turning away from God and Jesus in every arena be it Govt, schools, even churches are falling away.

Which is why I'm open to the USA being the false prophet at this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68568472


The entire world will worship this beast

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

------------

At the time Revelation was written the ten kings did not exist.

However, when they do - they will surrender their power to the antichrist.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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Of course, one can't have a commentary about the antichrist without mentioning the Mark of the Beast:

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


What must be stressed here is once someone takes the mark they are lost forever; meaning they will spend eternity in hell.
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We obtain a little bit more about the antichrist and his kingdom in Revelation 13.

Remember the beast had 10 horns and also 7 heads before the arrival of the antichrist:

Rev 13:10 ...there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Now in John's time when he wrote this - the king was Roman (6th), "five are fallen, and ONE IS",

meaning that the "ONE IS" is the Roman empire. I won't go into the five have fallen.

Next, it states - the other has not come yet. That is, the one after the Roman empire.

Therefore the roman empire is the sixth and there will be a seventh - with 10 kings.

It will be a short lived seventh kingdom with 10 kings, because the 8th king (antichrist) will arise
and take over the seventh kingdom:

Rev 13:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

This will be the last kingdom on earth before Jesus returns.


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