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MsMc User ID: 15556265 United Kingdom 03/01/2015 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 It should be so simple - and it's not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66030332 What's up with the devil tattoo's and the birthmarks and the penis with red sores allover it?????? [link to index.healthboards.com] :/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68435685 Sweden 03/01/2015 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 It should be so simple - and it's not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66030332 What's up with the devil tattoo's and the birthmarks and the penis with red sores allover it?????? [link to index.healthboards.com] :/ This is what they are trying to avoid at all costs. I believe that is why the old investigation was closed and why they're trying to kill this one. If it doesn't happen we have a scandal of major proportions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66053169 Switzerland 03/01/2015 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 Just in case anyone here is any doubt that these things go on in the upper echelons of society, I can tell you that a member of my family is a retired senior police officer, and he confirms it does. The police knew what Jimmy Saville was up to, but whenever a prosecution was considered they were told to drop it. There is a conspiracy amongst many to cover these things up. A senior member of the Thatcher government (overseeing the law) was also involved. I don't know how we break this. It is depressing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55120302 United Kingdom 03/01/2015 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 One thing I have noticed is that in the police videos the interviewer seems very professional and doesn't say ANY leading statements and lets the children do the talking, he says nothing that would plant a seed in the childs mind (which is the way it should be I suppose). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68420083 Yet in both of the retraction videos the very same interviewer does a LOT of 'leading' and especially with the boy keeps asking the same question over and over until he is happy with the response. ...Something very wrong there! . I agree with you there. The interview styles and the line of questioning in both interviews are incomplete and deeply flawed. Not only does the interviewer not direct the children's answers in their initial statements (which is quite right), he also fails to clarify a lot of what the children are saying and does not probe them (an awful term to use in this case, but meaning purely in the professional sense of gaining information) further about every claim they make. The same can be same about the retraction interview...he does not stop to clarify some of the things the children say which obviously aren't coherent enough in terms of being able to conclude 'no crime' from their testimonies alone. Transcript from the boy's retraction: P Okay. So, what I wanna do - we talked in 2 other interviews before, didn’t we? G yeah P Was what you told me the truth? G yeah P so, all about the stuff about the babies? G yea P and the church and all that? G N…no, the babies, um the babies, he um, no, well, there is some of the babies killed, yea? P okay. Are you sure? [prompt] G yes, but not much. Not every single day, not every single day, like kill, killed, no, not like that P okay, because I heard you watched a film, Zorro. Is that right? [prompting - clear suggestive lead] G yea P and there was someone killed with...there...weren’t they? Because of the way it sounded, it sounded to me similar to the way you told me about the babies, and that’s why I was a bit, wondering, are babies actually killed ?….[why not just tell him his story] G yea P …or is it something that you’ve been made to say? [directing] G yeah, it’s something I’ve been made to say P So are babies being killed ? G No, not much, but there is, yea, but not much P By who? G By my dad, not much [pause] P Are you sure? As I say, it’s okay, if it hasn’t happened [directing] it’s okay, as long as we talk about it now. Okay? ----------------------------------------------- This interview is riddled with inconsistencies and bad-practice. Now, to my mind, the gravity and absurdity of their initial claims cannot be explained away by these retraction statements...that's not to say I believe everything they say in the initial claims; moreover, that this is not enough to say '"case closed, no crime was committed and here is the evidence to support that." Information regarding the safeguarding of children as victims and witnesses and public interest etc: [link to www.cps.gov.uk] |
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Free Planet 2015 User ID: 41356668 United Kingdom 03/01/2015 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 Just in case anyone here is any doubt that these things go on in the upper echelons of society, I can tell you that a member of my family is a retired senior police officer, and he confirms it does. The police knew what Jimmy Saville was up to, but whenever a prosecution was considered they were told to drop it. There is a conspiracy amongst many to cover these things up. A senior member of the Thatcher government (overseeing the law) was also involved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66053169 I don't know how we break this. It is depressing. Can your family member COME FORWARD and spill the story? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66053169 Switzerland 03/01/2015 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 Just in case anyone here is any doubt that these things go on in the upper echelons of society, I can tell you that a member of my family is a retired senior police officer, and he confirms it does. The police knew what Jimmy Saville was up to, but whenever a prosecution was considered they were told to drop it. There is a conspiracy amongst many to cover these things up. A senior member of the Thatcher government (overseeing the law) was also involved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66053169 I don't know how we break this. It is depressing. Can your family member COME FORWARD and spill the story? No, he is old, retired and in ill health. To be honest I don't blame him - have you any idea what the repercussions would be for him and his family? That is how they keep their position. |
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AkhaldanSolo User ID: 68234681 United States 03/01/2015 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 Did dude just ask woman why she was eatin' babies? Ugh that's the only problem with independent investigation... how appropriate was that? Please, if any of you plan on independently investigating this case and have a chance to ask any questions to anyone near or around Hampstead, prepare yourself as if you were a professional reporter. This incident with only prove to muddy the waters regardless of the photographers I'm sure noble intentions. |
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AkhaldanSolo User ID: 68234681 United States 03/01/2015 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 So, why haven't you come back to engage with us some spirited debate Mr. Dearman, it quite obvious that you found your way to GLP through all of the sites you have been stalking for this material. Would you care to engage with me? I promise I will be gentle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55488856 Canada 03/01/2015 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 I have been following this story for a while now. My first exposure to this story, as I am sure was many others, was a viral video "Papa kills babies". That video literally lead me to tears. How could such an injustice have occurred. A quick google lead me this thread as the story and details unfolded. Soon it appeared on social network feeds, blogs, independent news sources as everyone in turn fanned the flames. The story has now reached the point where if you even type Hampstead in google or twitter you are immediately exposed and the flames continue to be fanned. Like hundreds of thousands of other people it was not my choice to have been exposed to this story, I just was. I like to believe in society we a sheltered from the details as most of us, and I am sure this includes me are not mentally prepared to deal with something on this level. Having never been abused as a child or know anyone who was abused the only knowledge I have had of child abuse, pedaphiles or satanism is well censored news articles that usually result in the perpetrator being caught, leaving me with a sense of security knowing that those given the task to deal with this type of situation are doing their job. I truly believe for the most part they do it to the best of their abilities. When we see an injustice we are taught to react to stand up for that injustice and when it comes to our children the emotions run high, very high. Irrational behaviour occurs en masse and we find ourselves in the situation we have today. Personal details were leaked all over the net and discussed in detail in forums like this. Conspiracy theories fly from Psy ops to blaming everyone including the children. Should this story have been leaked to the internet, probably not, should people have been publicly named in the videos and not edited out without supporting evidence being the same video with the child's testimony, certainly not , Should the children making the allegations have their names, address and faces exposed all over the internet, Absolutely not. And yet here we are. Here we are, now in the court of public opinion, with thousand of people publicly researching minute details of other people lives , while in the background a fact finding court hearing is apparently occurring to do the very same thing. I am fairly certain the fact finding court is watching this spread out across the internet and I know everyone is watching closely to see the outcome of the proceedings. What happened should not have happened, the private videos should have not been released and certainly not the police videos, but they were. So now as a society we need to do something. Either way we look at this, an injustice has occurred, either to the children who's voices where not heard, the Mother who lost her children, the father who may have been wrongly accused, the school, teachers and parents who been wrongly implicated. I am not sure how to fix this but it needs to be fixed. I hope the court that is performing the fact finding mission is working to solve this. If there was child abuse either from the mother, the boyfriend, the father, teachers or parents it must be actioned properly. I would assume the court has only one choice and that is to re-open the case. They need to clear the names of the accused and find those who are guilty. We can try and continue to play the role of arm chair detectives, jurors and judges and invent all the conspiracy theories we want but there needs to be an official enquiry now as so many people have been inadvertently exposed to this case. I don't think anyone believes an 8 and a 9 year old boy invented the entire charade based on watching the Mask of Zorro, so either way an injustice has occurred and the case must be re-opened. I am not going to post on this topic any more as I believe I am now emotionally involved and not able to focus rationally and I don't have the appropriate training or life experience to deal with this situation. In closing all I ask is please re-open the case, please do a thorough investigation, please make the results of that investigation public and please restore our faith in society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68420083 United Kingdom 03/01/2015 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200 Did dude just ask woman why she was eatin' babies? Ugh that's the only problem with independent investigation... how appropriate was that? Quoting: AkhaldanSolo 68234681 Please, if any of you plan on independently investigating this case and have a chance to ask any questions to anyone near or around Hampstead, prepare yourself as if you were a professional reporter. This incident with only prove to muddy the waters regardless of the photographers I'm sure noble intentions. That was for poster ID: 68420083 Quoting: AkhladanSolo 68234681 Neat that you went down there and got that footage though.. thanks from all of us interested in this case. That wasn't me. Just posting the video I saw. |