Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28

Time to look at the LM shields

The micrometeorite shields are the very thin layer ( 100 to 200 microns ) of usually chromic acid anodised aluminium alloy that overlays the MLI thermal blankets. You can see the structural setup on page 8 of this document. [link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

This picture gives you some idea of how thin and flexible the shield were ( around 6 to 12 thicknesses of kitchen foil )

[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Those green/brown panels are chromic acid anodised and the black panels are black pyromark painted aluminium or inconel panels.

A good source of information on this comes from modellers like Paul Fjeld

[link to home.earthlink.net]

and Mattias Malmer

[link to mattias.malmer.nu]

oh wait a minute, isn't he the Norwegian cgi specialist and special effects director that I am always posting "faked" comet movies from. Wheels within wheels man ! It is all a conspiracy, I told you.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

K

Paul Fjeld's page in particular is a good source of information on the changing colour scheme of the LM. [link to home.earthlink.net]

The unusual faceted design of the LM ascent stage skin and the small triangular windows came about as a result of the the refinements the Grumman thermal engineers made as the design evolved, starting from the design on the left, with its large windows and rounded structure, evolving towards the final version right.

[link to www.armaghplanet.com]

Fjeld tell us that the Grumman engineers changed the paint scheme on individual panels to tune the temperature of the skin to the desired level.

K

We can look at the temperature of that chromic acid anodised panel covering the aft equipment bay in this picture.

[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

The way the LM landed meant that this panel was left facing the Sun while the door was in shadow.

Using the figures we have for albedo from Diviner and taking the end of Apollo 15 EVA 3 as the highest Sun angle that we actually have a real ( not calculated ) regolith temperature for. Solar angle of elevation 41 deg.

Regolith temperature 342 K 69C

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

Giving us 760 W/m^2 radiated thermal energy from the lunar surface.

The Lambertian reflected light will be ( lunar highlands, albedo 0.16 ! )

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

143 W/m^2

Finding the insolation input for the panel per m^2
[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

1028 W/m^2

The energy into the panel will be insolation * solar absorptivity + lunar thermal emission * viewfactor * panel emissivity + reflection * viewfactor * solar absorptivity.

Using these figures for anodised aluminium.
[link to www.solarmirror.com]
a=0.14
e=0.84
and a view factor of 0.49

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

315 K, 41 C

Asumining minimal ingress of heat from the panel and minimal conduction around skin of the vehicle.

K

We can repeat this for a similar panel on the shadowed side of the LM, near the door.

Using this tool we can find the view view factor from the LM panel to the shadow that the LM cast is approximately 0.15
[link to www.thermalradiation.net]

Regolith temperature 342 K 69C

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

Giving us 760 W/m^2 radiated thermal energy from the lunar surface.

The Lambertian reflected light will be ( lunar highlands, albedo 0.16 ! )

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

143 W/m^2

Finding the insolation input for the panel per m^2
[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

0 W/m^2

The energy into the panel will be insolation * solar absorptivity + lunar thermal emission * viewfactor * panel emissivity + reflection * viewfactor * solar absorptivity.

Using these figures for anodised aluminium.
[link to www.solarmirror.com]
a=0.14
e=0.84
and a view factor of ( 0.49 - 0.15 ) = 0.34

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

262 K, -11 C

Assuming minimal ingress of heat from the panel and minimal conduction around skin of the vehicle.

K

Now we can use what we know about MLI



and the information here.
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

That tells us there are at least 25 single sided layers of MLI. We need to modify the formula because one side of the aluminised mylar or kapton is high emissivity plastic.

Q=A.sigma(T1^4-T2^4) / ( N+1 )*( 1/e - 1 )

Assuming a comfortable cabin temperature of 295 K 22 C then the heat ingress per m^2 of LM skin from the Sun side would be

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

0.15 W

and egress per m^2 of skin from the shadow side

[link to www.wolframalpha.com]

0.2 W

So that's about it, just the complex camera model to build now.

K

Well you seem to care otherwise you wouldn't have posted over 400 times on this thread. Did you also read it 38,000 times too?

No they don't sell "space blankets" made out of MLI because MLI needs a vacuum to work. Do you think 25 vacuum flasks arranged like Russian dolls wouldn't keep your drink warm

K

Not many pictures exist of the Lunar Hasselblad in action. Here is Pete Conrad of Apollo 12 using his.

[link to lh6.ggpht.com]

Armstrong photographing Aldrin with the Hasselblad.

[link to assets.nydailynews.com]

K

What do you think of this?

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Some pictures of the Hasselblad on the bracket here,

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

and here

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

This is a huge image of the camera and bracket together.

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

K

Revealed - The worlds biggest loser with the worlds saddest hobby.

There are some pretty lame hobbies in the world, maybe bus spotting is one of them [link to en.wikipedia.org] although Prof. Brian Cox, ex D:Ream keyboard player and hipster particle physicist is ( was ? ) one of them.

I can now reveal the lamest hobby of all time, for the worlds biggest loser. When you start a thread you will probably get a few star ratings in the first couple of weeks. After that, everyone who wants to rate your thread has already done so. This thread was stuck on 51 star ratings for over a month, until yesterday. I haven't updated the thread for a few days, I have lost interest really, so it was buried out of sight for most users but suddenly the number of ratings jumped from 51 to 62, all of them one star by the looks of things. All this without the number of reads of the thread going up by more than a few dozen and no posts/bumps to make the thread visible on the main forum. It was so odd that I grabbed a screen shot, but I had my suspicions as to what was going on. [link to i.imgur.com]

Today I checked again and my suspicions were confirmed [link to i.imgur.com] There have now been 26 one star rating over two nights without the thread being bumped for new users to see. Notice that non of the other Moon threads, some of which had been bumped, had any new star ratings.

So congratulations to IDW who is not only the worlds biggest sockpuppeting loser but has also got a new hobby of sitting in his basement every evening constantly resetting his router so that he can come on GLP with a new ID and one star this thread again. You lose at life, one star warrior.



K

He has to snatch 'victories' where he can -- as if the star rating system actually *means* anything.

We can safely assume all of the positive votes you got came from the same people who were artificially boosting yours and each others' "karma" here on GLP, paid Zionazi/Lamestream "peer review" propaganda shills.

The ratio of people who think you're full of shit and a dumb, dull shill to people who support your efforts are probably not much better than 15 to one, and of those few who do support you, all of them are shills, not a single ordinary person among them whose vote wasn't bought and paid for.
NASA has the lowest support here I have ever seen on any forum, and given the efforts being made to boost its image here, I think that it is a proper reflection on you, and your dishonest tactics.

This thread deserves a one star rating because it is absolute crap and you're an absolute creeper.
If you have a complaint about your rating you should look back on the many threads I authored that had all 5 star votes except for the same shills who are supporting you who stuffed+ the box.
What comes around goes around, and you deserve less than 1 "star". There just isn't a way to give you zero.

Yeah we see how you did that now !!



Fantastic ! You never cease to give me laugh with your rambling loser dialogue. Here is a clue for you. You live in a fantasy world of your own making. Nobody, NASA or otherwise really gives a crap what gets posted here, apart from YOU!! its just an entertainment site and your mental disintegration and paranoia is *very* entertaining. 5 stars for the man having a breakdown !

K

Well, we all have our opinions, and everyone projects their own reality. It's where we overlap that I'm working on. When your opinion is bought and paid for and you don't believe yourself, it isn't worth much.

And you're right, a lot of crap gets posted here, and everywhere on the internet, and you have made your contribution.
Just who do you believe you are fooling anyway? Do you think any person who is halfway awake doesn't realize you're shillin' NASA and a NASA contractor? What do you think your actual support here is? maybe ten people? All paid?

If you want to see a loser, look in a mirror. I can't think of a lower occupation and position in society than a person paid to lie on the internet about something that is obviously a hoax and a fraud.

You do a lot of projecting, K Hall.

Oh look you reset your router again, to one star one again You win the worlds biggest loser crown outright! Tell me what is the American equivalent of being sectioned under the mental health act, because I am sure it has happened to you. They can't just leave nutters to wander the streets without supervision

K

Loser is as loser does. We gave you ten star votes in a row from different IP's and the star rating didn't change, which means it's fixed. You're a low life cretin and if you want to see a looney shit-bird you only need look as close as the nearest mirror.

Why not just make it 5 stars and be done with it, freak

NASA's fine engineering at work:

[link to www.cnn.com]

NASA didn't "engineer" that rocket.

No, I don't. I just think you work here as part of a brainwashing operation. I don't really think so though, that's not a proper description. I know you do. I wonder have you freaks figured out that if you promote the OS to conspiracy aware people that you show your hand?

People with "all green" karma and "five star" threads that have the same exact opinions as the media and each other on a conspiracy site, people with "opinions" that every anonymous poster disagree with vehemently and hate? Com'on boys, who do you think you're fooling? idiots? You can have them.

My friends and allies, that aren't paid for their "opinions", and I'm talking about the 95% that think you're a fucking joke and have no interest in your crap. You're a shit slinging retard who thinks your smart..it's pathetic really

*you're

You are the only one voting and sockpuppeting and bumping and more or less the only one reading this thread. I had pretty much lost interest in it myself a few days ago. Here is the bottom line - you a delusional loser who thinks NASA is after him and that random people on a fringe conspiracy site work for NASA. It would be obvious to any sane person that NASA wouldn't give a shit what people on GLP thought, why should they? I would feel sorry for you if you weren't such a vile offensive shithead. So instead I enjoy your mental turmoil and creeping paranioa, don't forget to check behind the fridge tonight for listening devices :) In the meantime I look forward to your full mental breakdown.

K

NO ONE EVER had any interest in your crap. I know exactly who and what you work for. As for the success of this charade, it isn't me that proposed this MO. It doesn't work.

No you LOVE my thread. You cant stop reading it. You have posted over 500 times ! It's your favourite obsession. If you thought it was crap you wouldn't keep reading and posting, either that or Sloane is right and you have a gay crush on me.

K

It's like a dead dog rotting on the side of the road if you ask me.

Oh, and I vote 1* too!

Who are you pretending to be now IDW you sad bastard.

K

Here's another 1 star for your suck ass thread

sad sockpuppety idw is sad

Actually they can and do.
Just google Reagan+mental+health+care.