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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67958321 Croatia 02/12/2015 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three words to put the Astromutt know it all in his place... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795581 VanAllen Radiation Belt Flesh and blood needs two feet of lead to shield from the radiation or you are Toast. Astromutt will probably say they only recently discover Van Allen belt and it didn't exist during the Apollo era and that is how the apollo was able to go and land on the moon. Back then there was Van Halen belt which did not have harmful radiation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67969492 United Kingdom 02/12/2015 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three words to put the Astromutt know it all in his place... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795581 VanAllen Radiation Belt Flesh and blood needs two feet of lead to shield from the radiation or you are Toast. Astromutt will probably say they only recently discover Van Allen belt and it didn't exist during the Apollo era and that is how the apollo was able to go and land on the moon. Back then there was Van Halen belt which did not have harmful radiation. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Van Halen Belts were discovered by Eddie Van Halen back in 1958! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67958321 Croatia 02/12/2015 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three words to put the Astromutt know it all in his place... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6795581 VanAllen Radiation Belt Flesh and blood needs two feet of lead to shield from the radiation or you are Toast. Astromutt will probably say they only recently discover Van Allen belt and it didn't exist during the Apollo era and that is how the apollo was able to go and land on the moon. Back then there was Van Halen belt which did not have harmful radiation. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Van Halen Belts were discovered by Eddie Van Halen back in 1958! Pitty you if can't see the joke in front of the nose. What has happened to the good old British humor, died with the Apollo era or what |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37308944 United States 02/12/2015 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have absolute proof that NASA doctored images. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37308944 Should I post it? Would you people care? Doubtful. Absolute proof!!! Wow! That'll be a first. Post away... You'll say the moon wasn't really cut and pasted in the old fashioned way on this picture. You don't care for the truth. IMAGE ( [link to www.purdue.edu] ) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1015670 United States 02/12/2015 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody who believes the moon landings were hoaxes please, please never vote. Your lack of intellectual capacity is an embarrassment. You are the same dumb asses that believe what John Lear and Dan Burish say. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63655070 It's almost half of the country literally. ..they had a recent national survey. They are mostly if not all young people. It's big bussiness continuing the lies. It's amazing what else that they will believe once they think tgat the moon landing was faked. See for yourself. LIE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14723871 United States 02/12/2015 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we did go to the moon AND the photos are faked. Quoting: Super Doobie The did no want us to see what they really found. This. bullshit disinfo to counter the hoaxers. humans simply cannot leave low earth orbit due to radiation. you're 100% positive about that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67971827 Australia 02/12/2015 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we did go to the moon AND the photos are faked. Quoting: Super Doobie The did no want us to see what they really found. This. bullshit disinfo to counter the hoaxers. humans simply cannot leave low earth orbit due to radiation. you're 100% positive about that? are you 100% positive man walked on the moon? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67958321 Croatia 02/12/2015 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we did go to the moon AND the photos are faked. Quoting: Super Doobie The did no want us to see what they really found. This. bullshit disinfo to counter the hoaxers. humans simply cannot leave low earth orbit due to radiation. you're 100% positive about that? Humans will develope travel through the 'worm holes' before they will find the way how to protect human body from deadly cosmic radiation, outside NEO! (just for those who understand sarcasm) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14723871 United States 02/12/2015 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bullshit disinfo to counter the hoaxers. humans simply cannot leave low earth orbit due to radiation. you're 100% positive about that? are you 100% positive man walked on the moon? Nope. I don't make those kinds of claims. I'm not a cosmologist or an astrophysicist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66048410 Canada 02/12/2015 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely fake. Spacepupps arguments aren't proof they went to the moon and walked around they are just arguments based on IF they had actually done it. Obviously he/she doesn't know just like we don't know. The explanation Spacepupp gives about the images is bogus. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 02/12/2015 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67958321 If this crapolla has landed on the Moon [link to www.septclues.com] then somebody should give that designer's team a Nobel prize for special invention just LOOK at it! I know what I see and my eyes tell me NO way NO how that thing could have protected the astronots in space. The foil is there to provide thermal control, not structural integrity. Underneath it was quite sturdy. [link to www.nordenretireesclub.org] Of course, it was also landing in a 1/6th g environment which helped as well. Mr. Astro Do you agree without a doubt that they HAD to calculate the exact weight ect... in order to have the exact amount of fuel to be able to go to the moon, then blast off and come back to earth? I mean, this is a big deal right? weight to fuel ratios? They had excess fuel, more than enough, to provide a suitable safety margin. Actually it was a total of 5 tons, not 17, and there was enough fuel. Apollo 11's ascent stage had a dry mass of 2180kg and carried 2639 kg of propellant. Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov] The ascent stage APS engine had a specific impulse of 311s (which equals an exhaust velocity of 3047.8 m/s). [link to en.wikipedia.org] It takes about 1.73 km/s delta V to go from the lunar surface to lunar orbit: [link to i.imgur.com] Obviously you need at least that much delta V in the ascent stage. Some of the propellant is also RCS fuel (287 kg) which you really don't want to have to resort to using to finish your orbit insertion, so for calculating the ascent stage delta-V let's even treat the 287 kg of RCS fuel as payload instead of fuel. To be uber generous to the claim that the mass is now too high, we won't even consider how much RCS fuel would be burned during the orbit insertion for maneuvering, we will treat it as if we have to carry every ounce all the way to lunar orbit. Delta V = Ve*ln(m0/m1) where Ve = exhaust velocity M0 = starting mass M1 = final (dry) mass With no payload (moon rocks, astronauts) the ascent stage for Apollo 11 would have 2040.6959 m/s of delta V, obviously well above the required 1730 m/s. Let's figure there are two 80 kg astronauts on board, the mass of moon rocks brought back by Apollo 11 was a paltry 22 kg ( [link to www.lpi.usra.edu] ). Being the first and shortest mission on the moon's surface they brought back the least. With that 182 kg of total "payload" including astronauts their delta V would have been 1936.742 m/s. Still more than they actually need to get back to lunar orbit safely. In fact, the Apollo 11 ascent stage had a payload capacity for another 425 kg of mass in addition to the astronauts and moon rocks before hitting the delta-V limit for returning to lunar orbit. The math proves it. The same was true for the CSM getting to the moon and back as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 02/12/2015 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 Quantify this radiation. I'll bet you can't and won't even try. ... Good thing it was only designed for TWO astronauts. ... And your opinion means what exactly? spare me the bullshit. go sell your particular brand of bullshit to the gullible sheeps. THIS little black duck aint buying it!! So in other words, you can't quantify the radiation, you weren't aware the craft only was designed to hold two people and only ever held two people and your opinion still means diddly. ppfffttt you cant quantify the radiation either. All you have is what NASA tells you. Who exactly are you trying to convince here? Van Allen belts proves they can't do it even to this day. YOU are making the claim it can't be done. YOU need to quantify the radiation to prove that. The numbers given by NASA are agreed upon by every other country and company that has satellites in space. If those numbers were wrong then satellites would be failing far more often. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 02/12/2015 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56537535 Forget that, they'd go up there again if they could just to claim space dominance over the other nations. But since no other superpower have been to the moon, and since NASA has never "gone back". It means no one can go there. You honestly think China or Russia wouldnt fight tooth and nail to land some of their fellow commies up there, and wave their commie flags in the faces of NASA? Of course they would. They would do it just for spite and a show of power. Has it happened? No. Why? Because no human (with current advanced technology) cannot survive the trip up there. It will not happened! You know why? Because neither Russia or China has Kubrick, or Disney and Hollywood studios! They are more rational about serious stuff. And space is too serious to screw with it. They first killed few animals in space to be sure humans can survive in NEO. Who with a piece of brain in head could send three idiots straight to the Moon without even knowing what will happened to them and their bodies! Oh wait, only Americans, and their movie makers! What is supposed to be so different about going to the Moon from Low Earth Orbit that they would need to send animals first? They sent many different probes and knew what the radiation environment was. Why waste money sending animals when it wasn't needed? So how probes have reacted, like humans or like machines? yeah, waste lives of three dumb asstronauts instead it's cheaper Probes can measure radiation. It was already known that humans can survive microgravity. So STILL no need to waste money sending animals first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42765307 United States 02/12/2015 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Official Images from the Apollo 17 archives clearly show deliberate photo manipulation by the NASA administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962005 [link to youtu.be] The first 2 images compared are 100% evidence that the landings were faked. If mainstream media would release this to the big audience, NASA is busted. But mainstream media have no interest in that, sadly... So how did the rover and flag get up there? lol. It was imaged by Japan a couple of years ago. Crawl back into your hole, troll. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 02/12/2015 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro , the shuttle even with the modern advance technology never went to the moon.. Do you know why ? Because it can't. If it could , then they would have gone again to prove all the naysayer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67315588 The shuttle still used rockets. It didn't have enough fuel to get enough delta-v to get to the Moon. All the advanced computers in the world can't change that. So once you get into space and fire a rocket that rocket has to continue burning until you get where you're going? Dumb shit there is no gravity so once you start a speed you will remain at that speed till something acts against it. Go back to saying the ISIS beheadings were hoaxes, although you'd still be full of shit you'd have more credibility. That's not what he said. He said the shuttle didn't have the delta-V to get to the Moon. That is true. He said nothing about having to fire the engines all the way there. They DO have to be fired enough to get a high enough velocity to change the orbit enough to get there and the shuttle didn't have the fuel to do that. |