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Compassionate paid sex with love?

 
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It's obvious that sex for money is available for those with money and the steel heart that's necessary to deal with the energy surrounding most women who offer themselves. Other women will offer themselves for "romance" or "love", which is often impossible for the guy to either understand or live up to.

Is there any middle ground that allows men that are less than perfect to match up with heart centered women who realize the importance of sex in love for most men? Some way to bridge the gap between understandings and perhaps help the woman deal with sex she'd rather avoid by adding some dollars or other incentive? Some way that socially inept people of both sexes could be guided to be together in happiness before they're in nursing homes?

All ideas are appreciated, especially those that might suggest an available intermediary that could connect a man and a woman in ways that satisfy both emotional and physical connection and sexuality. I'm also curious as to the legal status of such a thing, since it's not pay just for sex, but pay for the extra inconvenience of assuring sex in a real relationship.

This is analogous to a "partially paid girlfriend", and would connect two people who want to be emotionally and sexually enmeshed with each other. It should be kind, compassionate, and would ideally avoid minor kids on both sides.
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Is there any institution or group that helps this to happen?
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Is there any institution or group that helps this to happen?
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Yes, its called craigslist.
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Sorry to say dude... but you make it sound as if sex for a woman is punishment.

You must've dated some pretty lame bitches....

Go to any dating site and talk to enough girls and you'll find what you're looking for... Maybe it's better to find a shrink though and sort out your phsych. problems.
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Sorry to say dude... but you make it sound as if sex for a woman is punishment.

You must've dated some pretty lame bitches....

Go to any dating site and talk to enough girls and you'll find what you're looking for... Maybe it's better to find a shrink though and sort out your phsych. problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


I've seen shrinks and I don't have those problems. I don't connect emotionally in ways that women want, and they feel uncomfortable if we're closer than about 5 feet. Other than that, they seen to want to be near me.
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Guys usually pay so that they don't have to put up with that shit.
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I see that the one star bandit has hit already.

No compassion there.
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Sorry to say dude... but you make it sound as if sex for a woman is punishment.

You must've dated some pretty lame bitches....

Go to any dating site and talk to enough girls and you'll find what you're looking for... Maybe it's better to find a shrink though and sort out your phsych. problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


I've seen shrinks and I don't have those problems. I don't connect emotionally in ways that women want, and they feel uncomfortable if we're closer than about 5 feet. Other than that, they seen to want to be near me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


So you DO have a problem, and might wanna work on fixing it. If you cannot connect to women THAT is a problem or not right?

Anyways, you can go to most Eastern European countries (Russia, Ukraine) and you will get what you are looking for. Superhot 20yr old miniskirt wearing hussies that will stay with you be loyal and fuck you till you either run out of money or die....

And yes they will not be 100% golddiggers and there will be some true love in the end. But I am not sure if it's a good foundation to start a relationship.
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
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Re: Compassionate paid sex with love?
Sorry to say dude... but you make it sound as if sex for a woman is punishment.

You must've dated some pretty lame bitches....

Go to any dating site and talk to enough girls and you'll find what you're looking for... Maybe it's better to find a shrink though and sort out your phsych. problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


I've seen shrinks and I don't have those problems. I don't connect emotionally in ways that women want, and they feel uncomfortable if we're closer than about 5 feet. Other than that, they seen to want to be near me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


So you DO have a problem, and might wanna work on fixing it. If you cannot connect to women THAT is a problem or not right?

Anyways, you can go to most Eastern European countries (Russia, Ukraine) and you will get what you are looking for. Superhot 20yr old miniskirt wearing hussies that will stay with you be loyal and fuck you till you either run out of money or die....

And yes they will not be 100% golddiggers and there will be some true love in the end. But I am not sure if it's a good foundation to start a relationship.
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Whatever problems I have cannot be fixed by the shrink industry using any technique that they are aware of. I've researched this for a very long time, and almost driven THEM crazy.

I know I have problems, but I'm decent and caring. Just not appealing emotionally to those girls that want hot and cold relationships. I want everything steady and on an even keel.

The eastern European girls seem like a possibility. I'm just sad that it takes traveling and possibly relocating elsewhere in the world to find the kind of girl that understands her man and will work with him to find the best possible life together. It's OK to spend money, but not to go broke in the process.
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
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Please re-read the original post. I agree totally with you and want to have sacred sex in a sacred relationship. It's just getting such a thing started that doesn't seem to work.

The usual techniques of cocky, funny, tease, play, etc., don't work for me. I'm a more serious sort and can't read the emotional stuff. There's nobody that's successfully taught me that, though many have tried, and I've tried to learn.
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
 Quoting: Immortal Hemp God


Please re-read the original post. I agree totally with you and want to have sacred sex in a sacred relationship. It's just getting such a thing started that doesn't seem to work.

The usual techniques of cocky, funny, tease, play, etc., don't work for me. I'm a more serious sort and can't read the emotional stuff. There's nobody that's successfully taught me that, though many have tried, and I've tried to learn.
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Accept yourself, and they will accept you.
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Re: Compassionate paid sex with love?
Sorry to say dude... but you make it sound as if sex for a woman is punishment.

You must've dated some pretty lame bitches....

Go to any dating site and talk to enough girls and you'll find what you're looking for... Maybe it's better to find a shrink though and sort out your phsych. problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


I've seen shrinks and I don't have those problems. I don't connect emotionally in ways that women want, and they feel uncomfortable if we're closer than about 5 feet. Other than that, they seen to want to be near me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


So you DO have a problem, and might wanna work on fixing it. If you cannot connect to women THAT is a problem or not right?

Anyways, you can go to most Eastern European countries (Russia, Ukraine) and you will get what you are looking for. Superhot 20yr old miniskirt wearing hussies that will stay with you be loyal and fuck you till you either run out of money or die....

And yes they will not be 100% golddiggers and there will be some true love in the end. But I am not sure if it's a good foundation to start a relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


Whatever problems I have cannot be fixed by the shrink industry using any technique that they are aware of. I've researched this for a very long time, and almost driven THEM crazy.

I know I have problems, but I'm decent and caring. Just not appealing emotionally to those girls that want hot and cold relationships. I want everything steady and on an even keel.

The eastern European girls seem like a possibility. I'm just sad that it takes traveling and possibly relocating elsewhere in the world to find the kind of girl that understands her man and will work with him to find the best possible life together. It's OK to spend money, but not to go broke in the process.
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Not needed... just chat with them, make your desires and expectations clear. Then book a nice vacation somewhere and send her a ticket. You will meet have a nice 10 day vacation and if you hit it off you can ask her to come to the US...

But again... be cautious and don't expect eternal love but just a good time.. maybe if you're lucky it will grow into love but that's rare I suppose.
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Marriage and sex in marriage is all ONE LONG contractual agreement where you are basically paying for sex anyway.
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Marriage and sex in marriage is all ONE LONG contractual agreement where you are basically paying for sex anyway.
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That used to be true in the USA, but now girls get to opt out of sex in marriage and keep the rest of the benefits.
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
 Quoting: Immortal Hemp God


Please re-read the original post. I agree totally with you and want to have sacred sex in a sacred relationship. It's just getting such a thing started that doesn't seem to work.

The usual techniques of cocky, funny, tease, play, etc., don't work for me. I'm a more serious sort and can't read the emotional stuff. There's nobody that's successfully taught me that, though many have tried, and I've tried to learn.
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Accept yourself, and they will accept you.
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I accept myself and girls accept me as a friend. The reason for this thread is to make life happier for me and other guys through assured sex, and for women through some sort of compensation for being sexual with a guy that they'd otherwise just see as a friend.
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I've seen shrinks and I don't have those problems. I don't connect emotionally in ways that women want, and they feel uncomfortable if we're closer than about 5 feet. Other than that, they seen to want to be near me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


So you DO have a problem, and might wanna work on fixing it. If you cannot connect to women THAT is a problem or not right?

Anyways, you can go to most Eastern European countries (Russia, Ukraine) and you will get what you are looking for. Superhot 20yr old miniskirt wearing hussies that will stay with you be loyal and fuck you till you either run out of money or die....

And yes they will not be 100% golddiggers and there will be some true love in the end. But I am not sure if it's a good foundation to start a relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


Whatever problems I have cannot be fixed by the shrink industry using any technique that they are aware of. I've researched this for a very long time, and almost driven THEM crazy.

I know I have problems, but I'm decent and caring. Just not appealing emotionally to those girls that want hot and cold relationships. I want everything steady and on an even keel.

The eastern European girls seem like a possibility. I'm just sad that it takes traveling and possibly relocating elsewhere in the world to find the kind of girl that understands her man and will work with him to find the best possible life together. It's OK to spend money, but not to go broke in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


Not needed... just chat with them, make your desires and expectations clear. Then book a nice vacation somewhere and send her a ticket. You will meet have a nice 10 day vacation and if you hit it off you can ask her to come to the US...

But again... be cautious and don't expect eternal love but just a good time.. maybe if you're lucky it will grow into love but that's rare I suppose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67991539


This sounds like a plan, but I understand that many of these girls can't even get a tourist visa - only a marriage or fiance visa. That means that I need to go overseas.
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It's obvious that sex for money is available for those with money and the steel heart that's necessary to deal with the energy surrounding most women who offer themselves. Other women will offer themselves for "romance" or "love", which is often impossible for the guy to either understand or live up to.

Is there any middle ground that allows men that are less than perfect to match up with heart centered women who realize the importance of sex in love for most men? Some way to bridge the gap between understandings and perhaps help the woman deal with sex she'd rather avoid by adding some dollars or other incentive? Some way that socially inept people of both sexes could be guided to be together in happiness before they're in nursing homes?

All ideas are appreciated, especially those that might suggest an available intermediary that could connect a man and a woman in ways that satisfy both emotional and physical connection and sexuality. I'm also curious as to the legal status of such a thing, since it's not pay just for sex, but pay for the extra inconvenience of assuring sex in a real relationship.

This is analogous to a "partially paid girlfriend", and would connect two people who want to be emotionally and sexually enmeshed with each other. It should be kind, compassionate, and would ideally avoid minor kids on both sides.
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I may not know what love is
but I know what it isn't
that's not love
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Asian massage spas.
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These seem to be appealing, but they also seem scary.

Is it possible to create a long term relationship with one of these girls? Is it possible to arrange to see her outside of the massage place?
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It's obvious that sex for money is available for those with money and the steel heart that's necessary to deal with the energy surrounding most women who offer themselves. Other women will offer themselves for "romance" or "love", which is often impossible for the guy to either understand or live up to.

Is there any middle ground that allows men that are less than perfect to match up with heart centered women who realize the importance of sex in love for most men? Some way to bridge the gap between understandings and perhaps help the woman deal with sex she'd rather avoid by adding some dollars or other incentive? Some way that socially inept people of both sexes could be guided to be together in happiness before they're in nursing homes?

All ideas are appreciated, especially those that might suggest an available intermediary that could connect a man and a woman in ways that satisfy both emotional and physical connection and sexuality. I'm also curious as to the legal status of such a thing, since it's not pay just for sex, but pay for the extra inconvenience of assuring sex in a real relationship.

This is analogous to a "partially paid girlfriend", and would connect two people who want to be emotionally and sexually enmeshed with each other. It should be kind, compassionate, and would ideally avoid minor kids on both sides.
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I may not know what love is
but I know what it isn't
that's not love
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Why is it not love? Both parties care for each other deeply, and have needs that are hard work for the other. The money just balances the emotional cost of undesired sex, or barely desired sex.
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The connection I'm talking about is not just about a sexual act, it's about all aspects of physical and emotional intimacy in all aspects of a life.
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The connection I'm talking about is not just about a sexual act, it's about all aspects of physical and emotional intimacy in all aspects of a life.
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
 Quoting: Immortal Hemp God


Please re-read the original post. I agree totally with you and want to have sacred sex in a sacred relationship. It's just getting such a thing started that doesn't seem to work.

The usual techniques of cocky, funny, tease, play, etc., don't work for me. I'm a more serious sort and can't read the emotional stuff. There's nobody that's successfully taught me that, though many have tried, and I've tried to learn.
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So you're an INTJ?
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Asian massage spas.
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These seem to be appealing, but they also seem scary.

Is it possible to create a long term relationship with one of these girls? Is it possible to arrange to see her outside of the massage place?
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laugh
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I know it's tough bro, not having your needs fulfilled, but if we respect women, we shouldn't encourage them to sell their bodies. Sex is a sacred act.
 Quoting: Immortal Hemp God


Please re-read the original post. I agree totally with you and want to have sacred sex in a sacred relationship. It's just getting such a thing started that doesn't seem to work.

The usual techniques of cocky, funny, tease, play, etc., don't work for me. I'm a more serious sort and can't read the emotional stuff. There's nobody that's successfully taught me that, though many have tried, and I've tried to learn.
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So you're an INTJ?
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INTP.
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So you are desiring sex and intend to give the best of what you can offer emotionally - though you are a more rational and less emotive type. And you really don't desire children?

I think the issue is really that you are not traditional in the sense of what you perceive is culturally desired for relationships. That's ok. Their is more than one culture in the world.

Has your sexual experience been limited based on your inability to "play the game" as you see it and get the situation into bed?

It sounds like your physical needs have not been met. But you have emotional stability (although running more flat affect) to bring to the table, you want to keep your independence as in your own personage - but do this mutually with another that seeks companionship and sex but not codependence and you really don't desire little human beings around since you are not so fully developed emotionally as to think you could partake in that whole experience.

Am I sort of getting this straight?

In all honesty and I am not trying to be a jerk - you may wish to seek a woman from another culture who desires stability and is willing to be sexual but who might have a language barrier so as to not be as demanding on you emotionally? A compatible, loyal living situation with sex but having low expectation for the whole "Westernized Love" experience?
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You may also join a service of some sort - (I have no experience with this but something like Match dot com) and take some time with your profile detailing what you seek and what you can offer - noting your personality type very early in your profile.

Your perfect match may in fact be out there . . . somewhere.
The fact you are aware of your emotional shortcomings but wish to offer the best of yourself anyway - is endearing.
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It's obvious that sex for money is available for those with money and the steel heart that's necessary to deal with the energy surrounding most women who offer themselves. Other women will offer themselves for "romance" or "love", which is often impossible for the guy to either understand or live up to.

Is there any middle ground that allows men that are less than perfect to match up with heart centered women who realize the importance of sex in love for most men? Some way to bridge the gap between understandings and perhaps help the woman deal with sex she'd rather avoid by adding some dollars or other incentive? Some way that socially inept people of both sexes could be guided to be together in happiness before they're in nursing homes?

All ideas are appreciated, especially those that might suggest an available intermediary that could connect a man and a woman in ways that satisfy both emotional and physical connection and sexuality. I'm also curious as to the legal status of such a thing, since it's not pay just for sex, but pay for the extra inconvenience of assuring sex in a real relationship.

This is analogous to a "partially paid girlfriend", and would connect two people who want to be emotionally and sexually enmeshed with each other. It should be kind, compassionate, and would ideally avoid minor kids on both sides.
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Yeah its called a relationship.
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So you are desiring sex and intend to give the best of what you can offer emotionally - though you are a more rational and less emotive type. And you really don't desire children?

I think the issue is really that you are not traditional in the sense of what you perceive is culturally desired for relationships. That's ok. Their is more than one culture in the world.

Has your sexual experience been limited based on your inability to "play the game" as you see it and get the situation into bed?

It sounds like your physical needs have not been met. But you have emotional stability (although running more flat affect) to bring to the table, you want to keep your independence as in your own personage - but do this mutually with another that seeks companionship and sex but not codependence and you really don't desire little human beings around since you are not so fully developed emotionally as to think you could partake in that whole experience.

Am I sort of getting this straight?

In all honesty and I am not trying to be a jerk - you may wish to seek a woman from another culture who desires stability and is willing to be sexual but who might have a language barrier so as to not be as demanding on you emotionally? A compatible, loyal living situation with sex but having low expectation for the whole "Westernized Love" experience?
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You're largely right. I've done the kid thing and my kids are well taken care of, but they and their mother are gone from my life. I don't want to do it again, though I'm gratified that the kids got my best effort.

I've had the privilege of a good relationship once, but she initiated and ultimately she left for more novelty.
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Asian massage spas.
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These seem to be appealing, but they also seem scary.

Is it possible to create a long term relationship with one of these girls? Is it possible to arrange to see her outside of the massage place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67742677


laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59547012


Why are you LOL-ing? I'm quite serious. I just don't know the answers to the questions above, and I don't understand why it feels very uncomfortable even trying to approach these places.





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