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French refused to send troops until AFTER Hizbollah is disarmed

 
Kay
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French refused to send troops until AFTER Hizbollah is disarmed
Hmm... the cart before the horse?


France insists that Hizbollah disarm ahead of troop move
By Martin Arnold in Paris, Roula Khalaf in London and Harvey,Morris in Jerusalem

Published: August 16 2006 03:00 | Last updated: August 16 2006 03:00

French officials yesterday in-sisted Paris would resist leading a bolstered international force in southern Lebanon without Lebanese government assurances that Hizbollah, the militant Shia group, would be disarmed.

The requirements were spelled out on the eve of today's visit by Philippe Douste-Blazy, French foreign minister, to Beirut - a visit likely to prove pivotal in deciding the fate of the multi-national United Nations force proposed to police the ceasefire between Hizbollah and Israel.

Aides to Mr Douste-Blazy said he wanted to hear the Lebanese army's plan for removing Hizbollah's missiles from a "buffer zone" in south Lebanon.

French officials accept that disarming Hizbollah will not happen overnight but say an international force cannot be deployed until a demilitarised zone is created. But the French minister's trip comes as the Lebanese government struggles to persuade Hizbollah to move its weapons from a 20km-wide zone in southern Lebanon, an area in effect under the militant movement's control.

Aides to Fouad Siniora, Lebanon's prime minister, yesterday said discussions were continuing to find a national consensus over the demilitarised zone and prepare the ground for the deployment of the Lebanese army and international forces.

Officials in Beirut made clear that the army would not clash with Hizbollah and risk provoking internal conflict. Late on Monday, Elias Murr, Lebanon's defence minister, told local LBC television that the army had no intention of disarming Hizbollah in the south. He suggested that Hizbollah understood that weapons could no longer be visible in the buffer zone but said that if troops came across missiles they would not take them away.

Israel is due to hand over a "buffer zone" to the Lebanese army and a UN-backed force that reinforces the existing 2,000-strong Unifil peacekeepers.

Diplomats in Paris are worried that Hizbollah, which hasdeclared the ceasefire a"historic victory" for Arabs,has been emboldened and is now less likely to lay down itsweapons.

But French officials said Mr Douste-Blazy would not accept any Lebanese plan short of a full disarmament of Hizbollah, starting with the 20km-wide zone south of the Litani river.

France is expected to deploy the largest contingent of about 5,000 troops in the proposed multinational force.

Italy, Spain, Germany, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia and New Zealand have also indicated they could participate.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2006
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What happened to the French? For more than a thousands years, a fierce independent, brave people, what changed them? Social programs?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Re: French refused to send troops until AFTER Hizbollah is disarmed
That sounds like the French; they refuse to fight when there's actual danger involved.
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...Question: In French tanks, what is the most used gear? Answer: Reverse.
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Well, I heard that Signora talking today, he was very angry, very upset. He was praising Hezbollah and Syria to the skies. There is no way he is going to get them to disarm.

So, I guess that must mean the cease fire is worthless. Wonder what Israel will do, the world's eyes is on the Daughter of Zion.
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Well of course
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France doesn't want to be in the way when Israel comes back in to take control of the Litani River.That is what they started this for and I doubt they are going leave when they are in desparate need of the water.
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the frendch are scared pussies macgun ahhh history
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They just don't want to add being the first peace keeping force to surrender to their list of great surrenders.
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Re: French refused to send troops until AFTER Hizbollah is disarmed
Why doesn't France insist that Israel disarm ahead of any troop move as well?

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Because france is too scared! hiding
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"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure." --- Jacques Chirac, President of France.

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"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." --- General George S. Patton

"It's no surprise the French won't help us get Saddam Hussein out of Iraq. They didn't help us get Germany out of France, either. Still, it's essential for them to join us in the war against Iraq. They can teach the Iraqis how to surrender." --- Jay Leno 5

"Did you see the new bomb the government came up with? It weighs 21,000 pounds. The Air Force tested this bomb in Florida and the bomb blast was so strong at Disneyworld 25 French tourists surrendered." --- Jay Leno

"French troops arrived in Afghanistan last week, and not a minute too soon. The French are acting as advisers to the Taliban, to teach them how to surrender properly." --- Jay Leno

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"What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?" --- Dennis Miller
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"Do you know it only took Germany three days to conquer France in WWII? And that's because it was raining."
--- John Xereas, Manager, DC Improv.

"The French are always reticent to surrender to the wishes of their friends and always more than willing to surrender to the wishes of their enemies." -- unattributed

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The new French flag: a white flag with a vertical yellow stripe up the middle.

Isn't it strange that the great Paris Arch-De-Triumph was only used four times, Twice by Germany and twice by the US Army

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Q: Why does Paris plant trees on both sides of the street?
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A: Nobody knows, its never been tried before

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A : Declare War

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A: "Table for 100,000 monsieur?

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A. "Don't shoot, I give up!"


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A : None. They just surrender to the darkness.

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A: Because it doesn't really exist.

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Q : How do you stop a French tank?
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A : To teach the Iraqis how to surrender.

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A : They don't want their record for surrender broken.


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confused message at best. full disarmament/no weapons near the river/a 20km buffer zone with no arms.

The French really need to sort out a clear message.

There is NO way in the most optimistic hope in the world that Hiz are going to disarm.

Not a chance.

forget it!
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LOL. I hear it is going to take ONE YEAR to deploy 15,000 troops - haha, what a joke.
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the french are a bunch of losers
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Not to defend the French for them or anything, but in reality their country is over run with Islamic extremists which all started with Algeria. If they do anything counter to the wishes of their very vocal and violent Islamic minority they have serious hell to pay at home. All of Europe is becoming more muslem (fastest growing religion) and so it is getting harder and harder for those countries to take a stand without having utter chaos ensue. If every time we tried to do something we had a Watts riot in every major city what would we do? France is on the verge of a civil war, take a look at their political parties and what they stand for. Other countries in Europe (East and West) are in the same boat and we in America are not so far away from the same outcome as France if we don't watch the creep of certain types of political correctness (read propaganda) into our daily lives.

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