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"Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will."- Matthew 7:21

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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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I would say it is doing what is holy and true, and not doing what you want to do. We must die to self.
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Jesus already told you:

For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. (John 6:40)

God has asked you to believe His son. It is His will that you do so and be saved.
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Acting by, through, and with love of all things, leading you to have compassion for all who lack awareness of this, gratitude for the awareness of this, and joy in embodying this truth.
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I think God's will for us is probably fairly simple to understand, but difficult (at least at times) to carry out perfectly: to help as many others as we can and to do harm to none.

I don't think it's rocket science.
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I think God's will for us is probably fairly simple to understand, but difficult (at least at times) to carry out perfectly: to help as many others as we can and to do harm to none.

I don't think it's rocket science.
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No it does not take rocket science, Jesus gave the hint when he trained his Disciples, and in the work Jesus he himself did, mainly preaching the good New of God's Kingdom


"After these things the Lord designated seventy others and sent them forth by twos in advance of him into every city and place to which he himself was going to come. 2 Then he began to say to them: “The harvest, indeed, is great, but the workers are few. Therefore beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest. - Matthew 10:1-3

"Then starting out they went through the territory from village to village, declaring the good news and performing cures everywhere."- Luke 9:6
 
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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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I would say it is doing what is holy and true, and not doing what you want to do. We must die to self.
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Here is a scripture for that

" Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it."- Matthew 16:24,25
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Two things, because they are slightly different.

1. What is God's will for you? Everything! Because every thing that happens to you, yes, even the painful, unpleasant stuff, the toothache, etc, is for your ultimate good. Everything that happens to you is good. (You may have to think deeply about this). Therefore, in accepting that: 'Thank you, Lord, for the employer who exploits me, I am learning something here' - you are co-operating with God, with God's plan for your life. (Before rejecting this, try doing it - being grateful for everything, yes, everything - for one week, and watch what miracles happen in your life.

2. What Christ told us, to keep His commandments. Paraphrased; 'I stand at the door and knock, and if you hear me and allow me in, I will partake of your life, and you of mine. I will be IN you, and thus, knowing your life intimately, I will be able to advise you on every detail of it. Yes, even where to find a parking space, and yes, not by 'signs' or feelings, but by my audible, distinct voice in your heart, which you will hear as clearly as a human voice. And you, in turn, will sup with me: you will have my peace, my joy, my foreknowledge of future events, my ability to cast out demons. You will be my hands on earth, that is to say, like a king who goes away but who gives his employee authority to sign any bills and invoices in his absence. You will be acting in lieu of me, that is to say, 'in my name'."

How do you open the door? Christ is talking all the time, but most people don't know this, and term it, 'my conscience' - that faint sense of hesitation or guilt, if you, eg, walk on past the homeless person without giving him anything. The more often you listen to that conscience, the better you become able to sense it. Eventually it turns into an actual voice that you can hear.

So, those two things are how you follow Christ and the will of the Father.
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The problem is that Jesus said many would think they were doing God's will......

So the question is an important one


'Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness."- Matthew 7:21-23
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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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Yes, but also that Christ himself maybe more symbolic than an actual entity.
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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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Yes, but also that Christ himself maybe more symbolic than an actual entity.
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Or that he is NOT GOD, as many so called Christian's teach?
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The problem is that Jesus said many would think they were doing God's will......

So the question is an important one


'Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness."- Matthew 7:21-23
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No, he didn't say that! Read your Bible carefully. He said they would SAY they were doing it, claim they were. But they didn't really know Christ. The Holy Spirit wasn't IN them. So Jesus was correct, He never knew them, they had no part in Him.

Here, this will answer your problem:

[link to supernaturalhousechurch.org]
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I'll sum it up with 1 word.......FAITH
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The problem is that Jesus said many would think they were doing God's will......

So the question is an important one


'Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness."- Matthew 7:21-23
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No, he didn't say that! Read your Bible carefully. He said they would SAY they were doing it, claim they were. But they didn't really know Christ. The Holy Spirit wasn't IN them. So Jesus was correct, He never knew them, they had no part in Him.

Here, this will answer your problem:

[link to supernaturalhousechurch.org]
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Yes, exactly, ......
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NLT 1 Thessalonians 4:3 God’s will is for you to be holy, so stay away from all sexual sin. 4 Then each of you will control his own body and live in holiness and honor— 5 not in lustful passion like the pagans who do not know God and his ways. 6 Never harm or cheat a fellow believer in this matter by violating his wife, for the Lord avenges all such sins, as we have solemnly warned you before. 7 God has called us to live holy lives, not impure lives. 8 Therefore, anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human teaching but is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

9 But we don’t need to write to you about the importance of loving each other, for God himself has taught you to love one another. 10 Indeed, you already show your love for all the believers throughout Macedonia. Even so, dear brothers and sisters, we urge you to love them even more.

11 Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before. 12 Then people who are not believers will respect the way you live, and you will not need to depend on others.
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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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Yes, but also that Christ himself maybe more symbolic than an actual entity.
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Or that he is NOT GOD, as many so called Christian's teach?
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Christians have very little understanding of Biblical symbolism and number that the Bible contains. Whether or not Jesus was an incarnate being, I do not know. But the lessons in the Bible are not literal. They are symbols. There is vast knowledge in the numbers, but none of it can be understood without developing esoteric understandings of number, form, geometry, and the application of consciousness. The same information can be found in all the ancient advanced cultures of which Christianity took its information.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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Yes, but also that Christ himself maybe more symbolic than an actual entity.
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Or that he is NOT GOD, as many so called Christian's teach?
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Christians have very little understanding of Biblical symbolism and number that the Bible contains. Whether or not Jesus was an incarnate being, I do not know. But the lessons in the Bible are not literal. They are symbols. There is vast knowledge in the numbers, but none of it can be understood without developing esoteric understandings of number, form, geometry, and the application of consciousness. The same information can be found in all the ancient advanced cultures of which Christianity took its information.
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Well, Christ's death and resurrection were not symbolic, they were literal
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You know, they were symbolic AND literal! People tend to go to two extremes: those who think maybe Jesus Christ isn't a real entity, and that the Bible is all symbolic, and those who take it literally, believe in Jesus, but ignore the deeper reading.

The symbolic and number meaning is real; but Jesus was the first person who came down to Earth and lived them out. His whole *life* was an enactment of the meaning. It's not that Jesus Christ existed: he does exist. He's a living Lord, not a dead one. He just lives now in the etheric realm, where most can't yet perceive.
It always makes me sad when people insist on taking the Bible only literally: what a treasure they're missing! Take the virgins and the oil in their lamps, and the book of seven seals: they are the chakras, the energy centres of the body. Those clothed in white raiment have a white aura, and so on. The whole book of Revelation, for instance, is a guide to spiritual initiation: the New Jerusalem is the perfected human being.
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You know, they were symbolic AND literal! People tend to go to two extremes: those who think maybe Jesus Christ isn't a real entity, and that the Bible is all symbolic, and those who take it literally, believe in Jesus, but ignore the deeper reading.

The symbolic and number meaning is real; but Jesus was the first person who came down to Earth and lived them out. His whole *life* was an enactment of the meaning. It's not that Jesus Christ existed: he does exist. He's a living Lord, not a dead one. He just lives now in the etheric realm, where most can't yet perceive.
It always makes me sad when people insist on taking the Bible only literally: what a treasure they're missing! Take the virgins and the oil in their lamps, and the book of seven seals: they are the chakras, the energy centres of the body. Those clothed in white raiment have a white aura, and so on. The whole book of Revelation, for instance, is a guide to spiritual initiation: the New Jerusalem is the perfected human being.
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Jesus taught many things by means of illustrations


"So the disciples came up and said to him: “Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11 In reply he said: “To YOU it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted. 12 For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13 This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it; 14 and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says, ‘By hearing, YOU will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, YOU will look but by no means see. 15 For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.’- Matthew 13:10-15
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What is "God's will?" I'd imagine that would be to obey the 10 commandments, right? We'd also want to make sure we had the original commandments, yes, no? Our "modern" day bible can be traced back to the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, derived from the Leningrad Codex of 1008 AD, which is the original text of reference of the Bible for the Roman Catholic Church, for the Bible of the Christian Protestant Churches - the King James Version - and for the Torah of the Jewish religion. Let's take a look at how the original 10 commandments read:

1 – Do not contract alliance with the inhabitants of another country

2 – Do not take women of another country for Israel's children

3 – Do not make divinities on fused metal

5 – Observe the feasts

6 – Respect Saturday (Sabbath)

7 – Every male will have to present himself to me 3 times a year.
WTF??? For what purpose?

8 – Do not offer the victim's blood on bread – WTF??? Who is considered a “victim?

9 – Donate all firstborn of the land to me (livestock?)

10 – Do not cook the kid in its mother's milk.


Morals and ethics? None mentioned!!!


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I'll sum it up with 1 word.......FAITH
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Nice thought, however, James was inspired to write there is a problem with that

' Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.'- James 2:18,19
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Doing God's Will is basically doing the opposite to what the church preaches.

Real spirituality has nothing to do with fundamental dogma.
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You mean when that fundamental dogma is man made doctrine's that Christ never taught?
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The "original" bible doesn't mention JC.

The whole “salvation” story begins with “original sin”, which, ironically, is also not mentioned in Masoretic text!!

The last book of this original bible is NOT Revelation – it is the Book of Wisdom. The author of this book writes: “God gave me the wisdom of the whole universe.” The book does not speak of Jesus. When this book was being written, Jesus was alleged to have been alive (according to our “modern” bible). The book was finished about 10-15 years after the alleged death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus. Yet, this Book of Wisdom that contains all of God's knowledge, does not know that God's son had arrived, preached, died, resurrected, ascended and brought salvation to the whole world.



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What is "God's will?" I'd imagine that would be to obey the 10 commandments, right? We'd also want to make sure we had the original commandments, yes, no? Our "modern" day bible can be traced back to the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, derived from the Leningrad Codex of 1008 AD, which is the original text of reference of the Bible for the Roman Catholic Church, for the Bible of the Christian Protestant Churches - the King James Version - and for the Torah of the Jewish religion. Let's take a look at how the original 10 commandments read:

1 – Do not contract alliance with the inhabitants of another country

2 – Do not take women of another country for Israel's children

3 – Do not make divinities on fused metal

5 – Observe the feasts

6 – Respect Saturday (Sabbath)

7 – Every male will have to present himself to me 3 times a year.
WTF??? For what purpose?

8 – Do not offer the victim's blood on bread – WTF??? Who is considered a “victim?

9 – Donate all firstborn of the land to me (livestock?)

10 – Do not cook the kid in its mother's milk.


Morals and ethics? None mentioned!!!


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Boy is that a mixed up jumble of whatever
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The word, work, and will of God are the same.

The work of God is to believe on Jesus - John 6:29

To abide in the Word of God is to do the will of God and to abide in the will of God is to believe on Jesus - John 5:38

In short to do the will of God is to believe on Jesus, learn of Him, and then follow Him in practice. Live as He lived, labor as He labored, and above all, love as He loved.

Jesus Christ doesn't just have all the answers, He is the answer

Sorry for typos, etc. First time posting on my mobile plus ambiem.
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The word, work, and will of God are the same.

The work of God is to believe on Jesus - John 6:29

To abide in the Word of God is to do the will of God and to abide in the will of God is to believe on Jesus - John 5:38

In short to do the will of God is to believe on Jesus, learn of Him, and then follow Him in practice. Live as He lived, labor as He labored, and above all, love as He loved.

Jesus Christ doesn't just have all the answers, He is the answer

Sorry for typos, etc. First time posting on my mobile plus ambiem.
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Ambien?????lmao
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NLT 1 Thessalonians 4:3 God’s will is for you to be holy, so stay away from all sexual sin. 4 Then each of you will control his own body and live in holiness and honor— 5 not in lustful passion like the pagans who do not know God and his ways. 6 Never harm or cheat a fellow believer in this matter by violating his wife, for the Lord avenges all such sins, as we have solemnly warned you before. 7 God has called us to live holy lives, not impure lives. 8 Therefore, anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human teaching but is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

9 But we don’t need to write to you about the importance of loving each other, for God himself has taught you to love one another. 10 Indeed, you already show your love for all the believers throughout Macedonia. Even so, dear brothers and sisters, we urge you to love them even more.

11 Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before. 12 Then people who are not believers will respect the way you live, and you will not need to depend on others.
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The best way to "show love" to non believers was to share the Kingdom message that Paul and the other Apostles, and Christ made the theme of their preaching, for it is God's Kingdom that will ultimately cure all the ill's that humans suffer.....and for those who ARE believers, fellow believers are to love each other, yet not unduly meddle in the other believers affairs, as you quoted in that scripture

"Make it your aim to live quietly and to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we instructed you.."- 1 Thessalonians 4;11
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There is a sovereign, individual, and moral will of God.

The will of God for each individual always falls within His sovereign and moral will as revealed in the King James Bible.

The written Word of God includes the complete revelation of God's moral will. This includes all the commandments as to how you should live. God's sovereign will includes His moral will.

It is His sovereign will that each man and woman live within the moral standards of the King James Bible. The written Word of God includes portions of His sovereign will which He has chosen to reveal to us and includes the general outline of His master plan for the world and man in general.

The best summary of this plan is:

Having made known unto us the mystery of His will, according to the good pleasure which He hath purposed in Himself; That in the dispensation of the fullness of times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him; In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will. (Ephesians 1:9-11)

When desiring to know God's will in regards to a certain life situation, first study the Scriptures to see if specific guidance is given in the written Word of God. There is no need to "seek God's will" or ask for confirmation of His will when He has already spoken in His written Word. Examine the Scriptures carefully for specific guidance already given.

Accept the written Word as God's voice speaking to you. If you refuse the guidance God has given in His written Word, you open yourself up to deception.

In many situations the Bible provides general principles--which when understood and applied-- will lead to a decision consistent with God's will. These principles apply to a variety of specific situations. For example, Paul warns:

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial (Satan)? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? (II Corinthians 6:14-15)
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Yes, but also that Christ himself maybe more symbolic than an actual entity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3122434


Or that he is NOT GOD, as many so called Christian's teach?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Christians have very little understanding of Biblical symbolism and number that the Bible contains. Whether or not Jesus was an incarnate being, I do not know. But the lessons in the Bible are not literal. They are symbols. There is vast knowledge in the numbers, but none of it can be understood without developing esoteric understandings of number, form, geometry, and the application of consciousness. The same information can be found in all the ancient advanced cultures of which Christianity took its information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3122434


Well, Christ's death and resurrection were not symbolic, they were literal
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That is the fundamentalist view, but it is not a literal event. Like everything in the Bible, it is information lifted from far older sources and retold. The execution and resurrection of Jesus is taken the execution and resurrection of Osiris in ancient Egypt. We find the exact same execution and resurrection story happening to Bel in Assyrian-Babylonian myth. Both are far older than the Bible. Likewise, you'll find immaculate conceptions and adoration of Christ/Horus by 3 kings/Magi, and so on. Nothing in the Bible is original, and its entirely symbolic.





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