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What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?

 
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you speak of the knowledge that they hold that they cant reveal. it sounds alot like the knowledge of good and evil. the knowledge of good which is god or ( jesus christ) and the knowledge of evil which would be the knowledge of man who invented all these things today that kill people every thing we invent for benefit it turns against us. cars=pollute the earth weapons=kill people and were not needed before the tree of knowledge so knowledge of man has led us now where but to see our planet which god created for us fade away. and just so you know god says in romans before their was law their was no sin and becuase we ate the apple of the tree of knowledge god had to make law so we would know of right and wrong because we were now full of knowledge of good and evil instead of just the knowledge of good.,... so i think we can all see how far knowledge of man has gotten us how many times do we have to fail before we will see that true knowledge is knowledge in jesus christ
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You sir, have won the right to claim you are one of the most ignorant people that has ever walked the face of the earth.

They have become Gods huh. Really. Then why do they still live on earth. Why is the world so full of chaos. Because they confuse the word God, with the exhibition of power. They are not the same.

Also you say because things are recorded by these "Gods" that this will solve the problem of lawlessness.

No it will not, and putting the power of your life into the hands of MAN that thinks he is a God, is a sure sign you sir are a

FUCKING IDIOT with masochist tendencies.

You like to jerk off and taste your semen, because you think it has God powers,

You are a demented creature with a lifeforce that will soon find out what is after death.

You speak of things you nothing about.
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it seems to me alot of people these days tend to meet shit they are scared of with persecution and hatred. your one of them. it's a plain and simple emotional response. just like it was when our Consciousness awoke and started learning and loving the opposite of nothing experiance that is life. we met the thought of life ending with fear. which enforced our universe controlling powers that we call "beleif" of "faith" with focused our power on DEATH. and that made it happen. billions and billions of infinite time over. until now. when we are able to learn; death is gods addiction and we truly should only fear fear itself. also that we really do have universal power to make the heaven or hell of our choosing here and now. he says they are gods because they simply realized that there is nothing to fear. period. why? because they, we, me, YOU are in control. period.
stop being angry and realize before you leave yourself behind. again.
start with the debate; astral projection versus video games,
whats better?
maybe youll really begin to question life with the mind and ability wtfgod gave humanity.
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i think they are really confused people, dont they believe in in ancient gods of the sumer. maybe with this belief they think there is no hope in this earth, therfore giving there souls to satan. damn, the signs are everywhere, or am i just crazy. believe it or not, not one day passes when i dont see something on tv that symbolically relates to the unspiritual society we live in, and the hardships that come with it. from music to tv, magazines even the damn news....people throw out your tv sets and pull out your holy books, once youve understanded all religions in the world,the next step in human evolution begins. peace and creativity. we have the power to be a great race, but temptation and greed get in our way and prevent human evolution.....like god said, he made us in his image.
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We cannot aspire to be Gods, for there is only one. We can become Angels, or d.emons.

Empower your soul, for it can rise to heaven as an angel does.

This is why we exist.
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What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?
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We are!
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
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Well TPTB have done alot of good things I must admit
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
 Quoting: eScrew


From one of my previous threads

The point that is really difficult for me to accept is that to create their NWO in the future ( not too distant ) a lot of people will have to suffer right now !

They are creating Chaos , famine , fear and controlling and banning medicines that could alleviate suffering and even cure !

This is not acceptable by any standards of morals or ethics , but they ( The Masons ) are blinded by their arrogance !
They think that they know better , and hence have all the right to steer humanity in the direction they chose .

I believe that a great majority does not believe in satan , and that he is the great deceiver ; therefore under the guise of Goodness they are creating, and nurturing Evil .

The road to hell is always paved with good intentions !
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?


From one of my previous threads

The point that is really difficult for me to accept is that to create their NWO in the future ( not too distant ) a lot of people will have to suffer right now !

They are creating Chaos , famine , fear and controlling and banning medicines that could alleviate suffering and even cure !

This is not acceptable by any standards of morals or ethics , but they ( The Masons ) are blinded by their arrogance !
They think that they know better , and hence have all the right to steer humanity in the direction they chose .

I believe that a great majority does not believe in satan , and that he is the great deceiver ; therefore under the guise of Goodness they are creating, and nurturing Evil .

The road to hell is always paved with good intentions !
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To my thread

Thread: HOW COULD A BOOK WRITTEN IN 1930 ..... PREDICT THE NWO ????????? (Page 2)
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
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Masters of the occult?

*lol*



Good one.


Nothing is hidden.



It's fine and dandy to be high ranking in your various physical manifestations. But if you're a spiritual pauper, it is not good.

Let say that the same way you judge rank and wealth, I judge a person's spiritual level. What do you think I'd used to judge that?

It's not what you think.


If rapists can win the lottery, you better believe no higher power out there cares about it the same way we do.
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Empower your soul, for it can rise to heaven as an angel does.


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Yeah, not a good idea.




And most certainly not.
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What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?

We are!
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You are simply too good for this world guys, too good...



lol
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Why blame the illumanti -let's look at ourselves they give us the choices for good and bad and we decide our outcome. We need to realize everything has a outcome be it good or bad. Maybe Freewill has alot to do with it. There is a balnce of power out there with good comes bad- we can't have one without the other. Wer are getting signs everyday that we need to change our way of thinking -movies, life, violence around us that is senselss. Just look at yourself before we blame everyone else for our problems- maybe the good and evil is there to guide our freewill and show us what the outcome will be. it is sad to see in the movies and Music industries flash symbols all around why other people struggle to get anywheres in life but it is what we do with life to better ourselves but being rich to some people is standing up for what they believe in and not faltering in it or giving in because it isn't right or serves society. Awake yourself what is going on and make your choice of what is right you make have to suffer and be persecuted but stand fast and you shall be enlightened.
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well actually We the illuminati are the good guys... n that is fact. course given the relativity of things, We are also the bad guys; beyond good n evil. We gave you the constitution n Declaration of Independence. Life, Liberty, n the pursuit of happiness. Do you think the pope or some grand muslim umpah loomah would give you that? No, We did. They make rules about what you can and cannot do, We give you freedom... n it's a freedom the masses constantly corrupt n suppress, so yes We have animosity towards the dumb ignorant cattle. In fact none here measured up to Our standard of liberty, so Our contempt for you people is great, so great that only your spilt blood satisfies Our wrath. oh n yes We are gods; Jesus himself said it, "Ye are gods yet know it not." Hell, We even give you the freedom to challenge God, challenge n insult Us... We have no grand inquisitions like the pope going after those that offend Our name, unlike christianity, judaism, and islam. No, We even gave you the freedom to insult Us. n therin lies a great mystery of Satan; the power to challenge God. Who's stronger, the mindless cattle that go along with the master? Or the one that mindfully challenges the master? n if the master can't take the challenge, is he really the master? well now, now that we've established that you are slaves with or without Us... is it Our fault if We use slaves to better Our position? It's a cruel hard world, n like the blind man in Plato's cave, it takes time for you to understand the concept of liberty. Time for you to comprehend the mysteries We already comprehend. You demonize Us, like the nazis did the Jews; ya'll must have eaten too many paint chips when you were young. The old world is one of slavery, both apparent n not so much so... the New World Order is one of Liberty, n rightful hierarchy.

Ordo ab Chao


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not by man
man has no right to give rights to anyone



Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.
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These self-proclaimed 'gods' are only fit to be sacrificed. Watch carefully as they have, in their 'glory', fattened themselves up for slaughter. Some of them think they will survive in their underground cities or be whisked away on the rapture express. The joke is on them - and it will be priceless to see the expression on their face when the proverbial dagger is thrust in.
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Good guys.....Bad guys.....if only the universe was really constructed in such a manner.

In comic books perhaps.

Are Illuminati or Freemasons good? That is a complex question that requires a complex answer.

Strauss argued that once humanity reached a point of peace and tranquility..(the Homogenous state) that would be the death of all humanity. For Strauss believed that the greatest aspects of being human are war, glory, struggle, and victory. He envisioned the death of these things as the death of man.

It would also be the death of politics because in an age of peace...the lower segments of society would begin to ask questions about why some poeple seem to have so much while they have so little. These peons might even begin questioning why certain people have power of governance at all??

To avoid this, there must be war and an enemy...and an occasional destruction of society as we know it in order to assure future human struggle. Strauss argued that we must be thrown back to the stone age on occasion.

The only problem is to do this 6 or 7 billion people must die.

Now is Strauss right or wrong??

Keep in mind Hitler was a believer in Strauss.....and so are the people we have termed Neo-cons.

So back to the question...are secretive societies which seek to demolish us in order to free us "Good guys?"

I don't think so. But it is very debatable.


Everyone should watch these videos at Google. I found them today after watching David dIcke. There are 5 videos called "The Legend Of Atlantis". I'm busy watching the fourth right now. They talk about the Brotherhood Of The Snake, The Illuminati & the Free-Masons; their origins, their mission and their goal.
I'm still trying to work out whether the videos are pro-Illuminati or anti-Illuminati, or simply disinfo to condition us to accept a "faux" alien invasion to unite the world as one under the NWO.

Anyway, there may be answers to the questions asked by the OP. Enjoy!

[link to video.google.co.uk]

The second video about Hitler, the occult and the Thule Society is brilliant.
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David dIcke is commonly known to have alternative views in the UK.

He infers the Queen is a Alien Lizard and that we are all controlled.

Nothing could be further from the truth, we choose our own destiny.

Many people are mistaken, Masonry is an education not a religion

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Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.
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Why don't you shut the fuck up? You sound like a complete idiot.
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One star for the jerk off OP.

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If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.
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They have to operate in the background because all the world's major religions are anti-progress.
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Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.

Why don't you shut the fuck up? You sound like a complete idiot.
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Your statements make you sound like a complete idiot; 1) The OP posted this in 06... I seriously doubt he is here to read what you type so it is matter-less. 2) He is right
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yes, they are good. the NWO is for the better. look up dj hives.
good and evil is a point of view.
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They "think" they are gods. That is the difference. Being born into a family does not make them gods. They have inherited their wealth and power, and have done it by secret. They used evil and corrupt ways to do this. This does not make them gods. They do not work for the betterment of society or peoples general well being. They work for greed and power.

They are not gods. They never will be. They may have made their pacts with the devil and have been given power. But it will be thrown down eventually.

If not, they'll pay with their souls for eternity for their deeds.

If some of these people with power and wealth only turned their hearts to GOOD the world would be a much better place.
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bump yoda
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
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Your ignorance is only outdistanced by your naivete...
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I simply display a mode of wishful thinking. I wish everyone of you was wrong and I was right. If that was so the wourld would be a better place.
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Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

As for you ,not so much.
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Like Alister Crowley said they worship Lucifer. The lower level initiates don't know what the hell is going on they just go to the meetings to feel special and make friends. The 32nd and 33rd degree is where the real secrets lie.
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
 Quoting: eScrew


They WERE the good guys.

Look at the roots of free masonry.

A massive, all ruling church was the law and told people what do do.

If the priest said at sunday morning:
"It´s not okay to harvest your hay on gods celebration day"

than the hay got wet and people and their animals starved trough the winter.

That is how it was.

The church kept people stupid and the aristocrats kept them poor.

But there were people, that could read (!) because they needed that for their job .. which was basically building stuff for church and aristocrats.

And those people could read, not only the parts of the bible the priests never mentioned but also other books and letters they wrote to people like minded.

Mostly those were the architects of the cathedrals we still admire today.
And they were sick of their masters and their omnipotent behavior .. caused by "sent by god to rule" attitude.

So they connected, they used symbols like the first hidden christians did (all those freemason symbols are architect and workers tools).

A king like those crazy guy building Versailles did not care if 10 people died daily because he wanted a swamp removed for his garden .. and those first freemasons hated this attitude.

They were, as they called themselves "humanists" and wanted to remove the old order ... and they did in the french revolution and with Luther .. which, very likely most american "christians" still somehow are related to (WASPs).

So basically they had success but as always, what starts with good intentions gets corrupted.

This happens to any human organization throughout history.

Today "humanists" seem to be the biggest threat to freedom of the people because instead of "helping" people to live a better live they think they "know" what is good for you.

Which is caused because they got eaten up by socialism which is the real enemy.
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There's good and bad in every bunch
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?



You sir, have won the right to claim you are one of the most ignorant people that has ever walked the face of the earth.

They have become Gods huh. Really. Then why do they still live on earth. Why is the world so full of chaos. Because they confuse the word God, with the exhibition of power. They are not the same.

Also you say because things are recorded by these "Gods" that this will solve the problem of lawlessness.

No it will not, and putting the power of your life into the hands of MAN that thinks he is a God, is a sure sign you sir are a

FUCKING IDIOT with masochist tendencies.

You like to jerk off and taste your semen, because you think it has God powers,

You are a demented creature with a lifeforce that will soon find out what is after death.

You speak of things you nothing about.
 Quoting: Dash Hammick


Who wants to bet if you put a bullet in one they will drop just like any other man out there?
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IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM...JOIN THEM LOL. IF YOU THINK THERE EVIL INFILTRATE THEM. Idol1
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wtf is this mason/illuminati shill week

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