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What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?

 
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Yes they are indeed the good guys and all the urban legends circulating about them + Hollywood's perverted symbolism are engineered by TPTB to give them a bad reputation. Because if you knew the truth, the truth would set you free, and TPTP don't want that so they do anything they can to get you to hate on Masons and Illuminati, and it works!
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NWO what could that mean?

We live in a planet called earth. Right? So, is time to change our perspective. We are fighting over resources and we dont fairly accomodate for all. The rich do benefit from it, goverments do benefit from it, noone is ready to give in the power and riches and the corruption that comes with the old world order. Even us the people are not ready tog et rid of our racial, political, religious, cultural and so on, differences.

But as our species is advancing technologically, humanity reamins immature on average. amazing technologies are put in the wrong hands, trillions of money goes to military projects instead of improving our life as a whole, as one humanity and not seperated by limits, by our ethnicity or our location in the world.

I am going to quote Carl Sagan here as he speaks my mind, we need ''fundamental restructuring of economical, political social and religious institutions''.

With a few words, a new world order is about radical change and humans are not known to welcome it. We afraid of change, some because it is not in their interest and then some because they think with the old world mind, as well others that believe in myths and superstition.

As Carl Sagan said ''fundamental changes are seeing as impractical, contrary to human nature''.

New world order means radical change, which is what we need if we are to enter the space age. If we are to survive this critical point, where in one hand we have advancement in technology and on the other hand we have human immaturity.

People are not ready to give up their religious, political, cultural etc agendas, corporations are not ready to reform, goverments dont want to give up the power.

I want to believe that if the illuminaty exist, they are wise and educated people, that see life for what it is. There are very harsh truths, that includes natural disasters, human corruption, and so on. Life is harsh, and at this point we can either destroy our planet, our achievements and our technology and send us all back to the stoneage or change and embrace the new technological age, cause with it comes awareness and evolution. Our intelligence evolves and so our consciousness. So, to prepare ourselves for a new era, the space age, new dimensions and a new reality.

Nobody wants us to be slaves, we are just too superstitious, and negative to see the benefit of peace and wealth in a united world, that operates based on wisdom and enlightement.

You afraid of microchips when we already developing ways to improve healing via nanotechnology, instead of poison you with medicine, you are afraid of robots and machines thinking that they will make you redundant, when they are here to work and harvest resources for us, to manufacture for us, so we can move to a new age, where we are dont need to work for our basic needs anymore, but instead embrace the new human evolution.

Maybe much of the old and the new generation is not ready for it, it might be genetic, maybe with time, more and more people will be born with the characteristics fo new more enligthened and highly intelligent human, with more expanded consciousness and ability to evolve and break free from the old wold order. In time it will happen, we cant stay immature and primitive in our spirit for ever.

If the illuminaty exist, then they are indeed the wise guys, they are the true bringers of light.

If they dont, then wise humans do exist, and more will be born, eventually the stupidity level, greediness and corruption as well superstition of the human population, may be erased from the face of earth, that if we make it.

the evil here is the old world order, who is right now threatening to wipe out humanity is our old self, the reason we suffer, we are divided, we fight, is our old self.

Too bad that the average population has brain the size of a peanut, you guys keep educating yourselves in youtube and books written by idiots. On the main time, lets hope somebody is looking after all this shit that all of us have gotten humanity into. we are all responsible, wether u like it or not, too bad many people dont even have the brain capasity to think straight.
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Whether they are good or bad, is it not better to choose love for yourself regardless? You can't control what others do and you never will be able to, but fighting fire with fire doesn't work. All you have dominion over is yourself. Love them even if they are evil, because evil itself is rooted in ignorance. Our true nature is love, and rejecting this love means rejecting yourself. That is where the true hell lies. Also, buying into all this fear and negativity isn't good for anyone. Let fearful and sad people be just that. You don't have to let it drag you down.

There is no judgement to wait for, the ones who invest in fear experience fear and the ones who invest in love rise above it.
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All depends if they are posthumanists.
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ok well im in agreance with this perhaps they are the good guys maybe this group that we all depict as evil isnt so evilm after all maybe they sit in the back ground because we fear anything more powerful then our selves we see it as a threat nev to them and they know never fully giving our trust i mean look at every superhero that the human mind has created they hide in the back ground but save lives daily why?? ill tell you why because there is always that one person who sits and says why do we need them and they gather support slowly but surely untill... BAM total reviloution everything is flipped and sundenly the hero becomes the bad guy
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there is a good illuminati aka the original illuminati and then there is the masonry illuminati aka the evil mofos. so there is a good side of the illuminati and their is a bad side which seems to be more powerful but we need to be strong and do whatever we can to be safe and protect ourselves
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If they are masters of the occult it would be safe to assume that they've already discovered that surving demons or satan is very primitive occult practice. According to my theory only small minority of their low ranking members do that. The reason some of them do that is because this is the easiest way to become part of the occult world although it is also the most dangerous one. High ranking members think they are Gods and therefore there is no need for human sacrifice or worship of any kind. What if their chip implant program will help to illiminate all domestic violence? That would be a good thing don't you think? Also, no more murders, rapes or theft. Everything you do is recorded so who would be so crazy to break the law?
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They are just another sect. Not totally evil and not totally benevolent; somewhere in between bouncing around.
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peaceOk look stop and think the masons are the what you call satanist. the iluminati is the good side.

There is no such thing called the devil or God....
if you look behind the main picture, look even furthur you can see we are run by a outer being that watches over us.

the balance of life is good and bad. you give to recieve. 50/50 like i said it's the balance of life there is always gonna be negitive energy out there amd there is gonna be postive energy. some illuminati memebers are what you call satanist to be a reminder that there is bad out there.

They are on our side, only reason they are gonna do this New World Order thing is to save mother earth! They love this planet and they are trying to save it, but no we the society messed everything up we killed mother earth, raped it! They are pissed off, they are like parents if you do good you revieve good things, all they do is give and give and we shut them down like animals. We are on the break of disaster only becasue of us. Society is the way it is because we made it the way it is. if we all come together and stop making so many babys and limit things and make things better we will still have a chance. But my words will be unspoken. No one will take this serious you just gonna shut me down and continue your negitive ways. But if you take this in nice postive way then you are my friend. I love all! we are all one, I am you, you are me, we are all. I see upon you, you see upon me, i see all, as you see all. Look deep whats on the inside and express the best of you postive balance of the human nature my friends we still have a fighting chance o change but if some one takes this seriouse spread this word around, that the illuminati is good! and explain why........They pratice Wicca the pagan beliefe, the pagan religion dates back before "Christ" even walked the earth way bfore the book of genisis (sorry if i didn't spell that right). The Pagan religion is based upon the balance of life, mother nature, enegy that made the universe, knowlage, wisdom, freedom, spiritual, etc. The bible is all bull it was made by the "man"? and how do you know there is only one God? and he's human? if anything the bible is evil, wrathful judgmental god, that murders, sacrifices for the good of evil! look deep in history youwill shall be revealed! and if youget on m case about oh im not gonna listen to you becasue you can't spell or don't have good manners we you my friend need to learn more. enstine was a terriable speller and grammer, but he was one of the most brilliant beings out there so take you time and think about what i just said, please
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If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.
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o yea tell that to the pope who commanded them to be burned at the stake when they did it in the open... secrecy has been necessary for their survival as human beings wanting to believe in what hey want to believe in

and even if they do communicate with spirits..
doesn't mean they talk to super evil demon stpirits all the time...
and even if they did do that.. wouldn't you want osmone to do that in order to study 'the enemy' and find out how to destroy them...

like.. oooh there are demons.. lets keep our enemies close and find a way of serving them then find a way to trick them and defeat them...
but no... you cant comprehend that strategy can you.. they're just all bad guys in some saturday morning cartoon for you
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Not because they hide that it automaticly means they're bad and evil.
If they hide themselves, it's because they knows that people won't agree with them, because they are not intelligent enough to understand that sacrifice is necessary to save a majority.
I don't know what illuminati plans are exactly, nobody knows, and we dont even know if they are real, but i'm just saying that to me, keeping humans number to 500millions COULd be a good thing. it would save the planet. You must understand that we are too many. look at our governement that won't do shit to save the earth. Barack obama saying that planet is not his priority. excuse me but thats soooo stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how can he not understand that without the planet, theres no humans

i'm not hoping that one of you understand too, but if your a little bit open minded, you'll think about that
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I've realised for years that the world will be a better place with one world government who treats all the citizens the same and fairly without being corrupt. Thinking England is the best because I'm from there is wrong.

The tribes have gradually got bigger and bigger and we need to be united as a species to advance.
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good guys don't hide in the shadows and play games with peoples minds they don't steal and they don't lie and spread false hope and that's what the Freemason and ill-um-inat-i do why would i put trust in secret organizations why not be up front and straight forward instead of hiding and playing games
the we are all one theme is utter bullshit ive had enough dealings with both personally to know what they are about one thing most of all MONEY second thing is POWER fuk them look at how shit is now do you think this is done by anyone else but them?
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Freemasons are the scum of the earth whether they want to accept it or not. God has no need for men or earth period. Especially freemasons. Don't listen to any of the shills on this site.

This scripture is about Freemasons.

Psalm 2

1 Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One. 3 "Let us break their chains," they say, "and throw off their fetters." 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them. 5 Then he rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, 6


Masons say they are building Gods kingdom on earth. Really? We can see the scripture above God has no need of men, but yet they are building the kingdom? Lies. Grandmaster Albert Pike said the god of the masons is Lucifer. It's in his book and online all over the place.


The masons the only ones plotting. They are the vain ones. They are the rulers. They make evil laws. They worship idols and graven images of mystery cults. They murder and cheat. They are the vain ones drunk on power. They summon demons and devils and there is more than enough evidence to support all their sins and transgressions.

Just go look at the figures adorned on government buildings worldwide. You'll know them by their symbols and there is only so many symbols representing the mystery cults. It's quite easy to spot them and see they are the problem with the world. Anyone that tells you different is a liar.


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Good for who? Not us proles, that's for sure. For themselves maybe.
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Listen I can't say much because its up to you. But just know that your arogance is the only thing holding you back. Instead. Your eyes are usless they have seen the Damned. If you work for god I'm sure that you have spoken with him? Why not? This is because. You worship the god of the man spoken word. Which is simply and arogantly classified as one sigularity. And because you accepted, arogantly what you are told. You will have closed eyes and never be fortunate enough to find the truth. There can be one single thing or 111111111milliun at what you see in one singnl place of the time continum. So when you say you work for a single thing what are you really saying. All religon is real. From now one even if you believe you know something compleatly discard what you believe. Fear nothing because this is a game and accept what your brothers and surreal are telling you . Not as truth because there is not truth that you in your Life accept what you accept as truth. And once you seek you shall find there is litteraly sighns everywhere. "How blind can one be to not see what I see". "Never trust someone who found the answer trust someone who seeks it". We are beings. As your religon says in the likeness and image. It's because we underestimate our god capabilities. Everyhing is nutral this is why you see the evil because its aloud on earth. Why? Time moves foward but and so do we. Just as we ask where did god come from we have to know where we came from. We are moving closer and closer to become god. You already are one but you need your share of fear, evil and arogance. The sky will be the same for both of us. Live freely don't worry to much about it. And the illuminiti and free masons are of the same just as the military and airforce. It's all about the higher understanding and they can't tell you the truth because people have fear and arogance and are not ready. The only thing that they can do is leave signs all over everywhere. Every building every credit card ever thing. Statue of liberty. Never give in no matter what its tour decision. Seek and never find. We live in a world of symbols. A matrix if you will. We have hope and faith to help us find the answer when we are ready to accept our god origin. Orion. If a bruised bird can fly then why must a modest burden destroy your wings. You with you were alive. Divine strength
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The problem remains. The only way to validate the claims is for Christianity to be true. It isn't. That's that. And for the record, Satanists are Atheists. Look it up. They don't believe that Satan is a deity of any kind. The main point of a Satanist is that they go beyond atheism and want to see the bane of religion removed from peoples heads. The active accuse religion of being false. So since they are atheists, how could they believe in anything simple. Christians tend to be naive, dumb, or disturbed. Well I'd guess you have to be to believe there is a man in the sky that loves you, but will torture you for eternitywtfwtf if you mess with his rules.
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Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.
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some men have fallen from all that is good and right in man as a result of the delusion that they are gods
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you guys are all morans lol if only you knew the truth....
just as there are good there is evil in the same room.. so IF YOUR SMART ENOUGH YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT....
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The world would look different by now.
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I have believed since I was a child there should be a one world government and the world should be in unity. That only makes since how could we ever deal with other off world civilizations if we can't even agree among ourselves.

The question at hand. What if Masons and Illuminati are the good guys?

This whole Mason thing is a joke. I have met many they are juts average people that join the loge they are not all rich, the don't do any thing weird. From what I have heard they study metaphysics at deeper levels.

As someone already said all arguments rely on Christianity being true. I think Christianity is a disease like most other organized religions. Even by it's own standards in the verse that says "You can judge a tree by it's fruit." What is the fruit of Christianity. Let's see war & murder in Christ's name, guilt, oppression, judgement, fear, making people into slave and beggars to a false god under threat of eternal damnation in hell.

Yeah pretty rotten fruit. It's a sham used to control people and keep them powerless. If you look at the old testament the God of the old testament was vengeful and wrathful and jealous.

There is wisdom in the bible but there are also a lot of things that are lies or things so cryptic that it does more harm than good. You belief and concept of GOD will shape what you get from it.

In the new testament Christ gave a entirely different concept of GOD that was loving, part of you and within you and also gave instructions on how to work with GOD and manifest and have life abundantly. But instead the Christians choose to focus on fear, guilt and limitation. It's clear that the GOD he speaks of is not a Judgmental being or man. But the Father is the Quantum field of all possibilities. Let's not forget when he said "Know yet not ye ate little GODS!"

Christianity is a insult to Christ and his teaching and has been used to pervert his message make him a GOD to be worshiped (which he never said to do)and hide his teaching of how to become GOD our-self and "Do the things he did and also greater things! And I did not read of Christ speaking of anything but love, faith and self-empowerment.

Don't forget also that the bible was edited, books removed added etc.

Now that that's out of the way/ Any christian rebuttals in my opinion are groundless and total B.S.

There all kinds of theories about the Illuminati being descendants of the Annunaki, etc...

From what I have seen if you rise to the top you are asked to join the Illuminati. They seem to welcome you and say "You finally figured it out, welcome to club."

They all use the Law of Attraction they know about manifestation, they know we create reality and when you rise to the top they welcome you. They see you as one of them. Or so it seems because apparently every successful person in the world is part of the Illuminati or so the conspiracy theorist seem to think.

Since I have been on the spiritual path and learned how to manifest in my life I have tried to share with others. And often I attract people that share the beliefs but much of the time when I try to share this info to help people improve their lives it's meet with skepticism , hostility, attacks, or the Christian or other organized religion brainwashed mindset. You can't them. They are the sheeple and they are asleep. Do you really think they are the ones that should be deciding the fate of this world and creating the governments?

Most of them are self-destructive, their life revolves around being a wage slave, drinking, doing drugs, they biggest plans they make are their vacation and next tattoo
they while, complain and blame others and expect the government to change their life. Yet with the internet and Amazon.com you can learn to do just about anything from become a multimillionaire, find a cure for cancer that actually works, and discover the power of manifesting. But do most people do that?

I have come to realize that I think the Illuminati have it right, let people find it on their own. You can't help those that want to hold on to their misery and old beliefs. And those particular that are dominated by fear. And welcome those that wake up from the matrix and have proven themselves.

Maybe I have some of the bloodline or maybe I'm average in bloodline and just have awakened but I see things much more differently and in fact most of my life.

I know one thing and that no matter what the future holds I will not fear, I will walk in love and faith and my GOD/Higher-Self, Quantum Field, what ever you want to call it will guide me on the right path for my highest good.

Who knows maybe I'll get my Illuminati invitation soon or maybe their is another path I will be guided to.

PS: And people would be much better of developing themselves that focusing your energy on conspiracy theories and the evils of the powers that be. That's just another sheeple mindgame.yoda
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They seek dominion over the world and its people...definitionally = not good.

It wasn't that hard.

I've come to destroy them. I am Maat. I am Justice. I am Cursed Babalon--the Woman Girt with Sword...
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1. who cares what they do. just worry about it if shit goes down.

2. there is a balance between good and evil at all times. if what they do is evil, it must mean they have good intentions, whether we think its good or bad, it is good in their eyes but evil in ours. If they are going to eradicate the lesser beings of the human race it is for a good cause...balance. why not take out a shit ton of people before we do it to ourselves? would you rather die slowly knowing your death is coming and become afraid, angry, and lonely? or would you rather be happy and die quickly and as painless as possible?

3. my previous statement may not be entirely true but if you constantly think about death you will end up in a bad place. It WILL drive you insane. And you may not come back from it. I have talked to someone who may actually be a part of this Illuminati and this person told me most people don't come back from insanity. It is not healthy for anyone to constantly worry about death or others dying. To constantly fear death is a sign of loneliness. If you are afraid you will be alone. And being alone is a great fear of everyone. just enjoy the life you have. because out of all the tiny particles in all of space, you are here, you are existing. you are a miracle. 1 out of 1 million sperm. you are here. you won the race to the egg and your mother protected you.

4. do not ignore statement #3. If you have done so, this just proves you are a negative Nancy. Or maybe you just didn't have the time. :P

5. Start your own damn secret society, find people you can trust. Create your own damn rules. Make a rule book that you yourself will follow and find others who share similar interests as yourself.
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Also, the fact that you all (including myself) are so immersed in the Illuminati just proves you have way too much time on your hands...
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What if there are no enlightened despots? What if there are only despots? What if we lived in a worldwide oligarchy where only the least humane achieved wealth and status? And what if these same tyrants were little more than husks controlled from beyond the grave by the vindictive spirits of their forefathers for the amusement of the underworld?



Believe it or not... The Archimime of the Emim is very real. Go the Gravedancer, Gozer the Traveler... Frosty the Almseeker is always watching... Always watching... Alsius knows all, sees all.
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They seek dominion over the world and its people...definitionally = not good.

It wasn't that hard.

I've come to destroy them. I am Maat. I am Justice. I am Cursed Babalon--the Woman Girt with Sword...
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Honey, you need to double-back. The High Synod is in way more trouble than we are. Mephadon the Mooncalf has insinuated his noxious influence all the way to Ga Eden. There can be no justice for the foreseeable future aside from wicked justice. Asymmetrical Holy War is a nightmare.

Alas, I am the nightmare for which the world cannot wake.
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Start your own damn secret society, find people you can trust. Create your own damn rules. Make a rule book that you yourself will follow and find others who share similar interests as yourself.
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