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What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?

 
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If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.
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because if you look through time, anybody that's tried to do any good has been brought down due to the people suspecting them of "evil". look at it they dont really think they're evil, mankind just wont accept someone trying to do the right thing, that's why we cant be ruled by "nice guys" its because its simply not possible.

btw it's masons* and there's a masonic lodge in my town that i visit frequently visit, and my grand-father was a mason
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Everything you see every opinion, every book, every document, everything around us that arouses the senses to stimulate opinion it creates divide, it creates hatred , it fuels stereotyping it creates ego, it fuels the evil that exists in this world. We arnt together we are are divided we arnt standing up together . The videos books you read on illuminati are easily accessed and enter peoples minds like a bacteria it grows and it grows it fill your mind with cynicism, everywhere you walk everywere you see people you judge you tell yourself 'in your own conciousness 'ha look at that person there completly niave to whats going on in the world look at that person there small minded, this that, you judge you judge before love and you judge before respect stand on a mountain and stand stong look below and reject all the evil you see accociate with people love people but acknowledge that people all around arnt divided you talk about how you understand the true nature of reality you see whats going on in the world your ego whispers to you im not part of the hoard of sheep that follow haha im brilliant im fantastic.

you read books and you believe the illuminati it trying to destroy the world there trying to destroy people , stop tying to find a source outside urself to blame look at your self and ask yourself what can i change about my self to benefit others cant you see theres only war no middle ground there those who place all there energies in a christian god theres those who put there energies in islamic god theres those who are atheist theres those who are absorbed into illuminati they reject every opinion and judge, you my friend are giving the ''evil in this world its subtance to thrive you are part of that divide, evil as in the terms of a metaphor evil not physicaly evil in all its overcast clouds they blind you to what really behind, the reall evil in this world is politics banking media the people behind the media the corruption, we all no its happening and we all no there are groups of people in power you are hearing this from someone who could talk about illuminati conspiracy for a life time because i have read hundreds of books watched hundreds of videos music industry, food industry, every industry in the pyramid and we are told that this is happening by a group of elitest that belong to the illuminati, well that is unjust and a false statement the evil is out there dont get me wrong its all around us, but there are global elitests in this world have manipulation skills beyond comprehension.

The elites of this world have the best phycologists the best doctors the best of every skill that exists in are physical world to there hand and they use this to manipulate your mind they no how are minds work they no how to hypnotise and the hilarity of it is the illuminati is part of that weapon youtube, facebook, twitter, everything that has mass involved is controlled people ask why if there was an illuminati would there videos be out there? becuse they are intentionaly leaked out to add another divide they are intentionaly leaked to hinder and create a reputation of the illuminati as they see fit and thats an evil one, you are quick to suggest that there is only one global elite that rule everything that cannot be true, the groups at the top that are behind every conspiracy out there you name it, want you to think its the illuminati, if you do your work there are elitests out there that serve for good, and they are restricted from pursuing there message by the boundaries set by these other elites, think about it breath it take it in feel it hold on a second and exhale it dont just jump in and take things for face value that is what happens most of the time.

Think about it in a lot a opinons people have on the existing illuminati information is that every thing from the bottom of the the pyramid works its way up so in that case the likes of waterstones book shop chains all organisation from fast food to book shops they control what books go in there shops but the people who decide will obviously take into account the literature written to icrease sales but the higher you go up there things are controlled yet the illuminati that you see is readily available from all sources you can buy all of it you can go on youtube? its like I said earlier its also a tool. so where was I oh yes in which there then no down the line someone will buy the book take it for face value tell there mates about the theory that mate will pass it on there we go the power of something as simple as controlling the books that go out for sale to feed your mind with ideas that pollute.

As you read as you move up the pyramid up to the top in which you believe exists the corruption, think about this way there isnt just one pyramid in egypt there are several think of that metaphorical not literally in that case there would be several pyramid sytems some complete evil and some completly good and that is my point the whole point is to destroy the illuminati against itself the oldest trick in the book you see something as a threat you turn it around and say all this happened because of a corupt system controlled and run by the illuminati as I said ''Illumination is not a religion for those who wish to debase themselves before a debased God. No God would tolerate kneeling and bowing masses, murmuring hordes of obedient, frightened slaves. Is God your friend or a tyrant? Why would you kneel to a friend? Would a friend ever ask that of you? Humanity can never be free until it recognises its true relationship to divinity, and that is not one of master and slave. If you venture into a church, a mosque or a synagogue you will be in no doubt that you are amongst slaves and that they worship a God who is their absolute master. They are abject before him. Such a 1God is drunk on his own power and vanity. He craves obedience. He despises those who think for themselves. Such a God is no God at all. Such a God is Satan. the trua illuminati isnt evil its there for the people not against them they believe in equality love respect they understand that all religion is damaging because at the end of the day, its you as an individual who can change this. the global elite isnt the illuminati we think it is it isnt the illumitati is the as you would say the goodies and the very much hidden other global elite the baddies and that is fact you are told all this corruption is the illuminati, yes by the media that is controlled by the baddies so actualy if you think about it the baddies are covering themselves uyp by exposing the goodies as the evil that way no one ever thinks about or questions it? there isnt one global elite
there are two global elites maybe more the old tale the good and the bad and the illuminati had been exposed as the ugly.

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Maybe they act evil because they love us.
Their job is to give us the extrem negativity. Doing so we are able to choose postvty. They are our cathalyst. THink about that..
Without the evil side we wouldnt be able to choose anything.. we wouldnt evolve!
Sure they are having fun here in this experince but they also know the amount of karma they are getting. Not a easy job if you think in a broader way.
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Good guys don't hide behind fake entities.
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Maybe they act evil because they love us.
Their job is to give us the extrem negativity. Doing so we are able to choose postvty. They are our cathalyst. THink about that..
Without the evil side we wouldnt be able to choose anything.. we wouldnt evolve!
Sure they are having fun here in this experince but they also know the amount of karma they are getting. Not a easy job if you think in a broader way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24221313


You keep telling yourself that!!

They are SATANISTS.

Hypocritical luciferians, who KEEP KNOWLEDGE TO THEMSELVES.

So they are not the "saviours of humanity".

They are CRIMINALS.

Brazil is full of criminal masons.

They make little children cheap for rich masons in other countries to come here and fuck with them. For super cheap!!

TRASH. CRIMINAL TRASH.

They know it. And they don't care.

Just like the Military and the Police.

Both of which they control.

"You shall know them by their fruits."
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what if dog food tastes like strawberry shortcake
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.
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Perhaps because sometimes good people need to do things that normal people cannot comprehend for the human race to continue.
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what if the hokey-pokey really is what it's all about?
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They are not good and if you don't find out here while you're alive then you definately will after you're dead and it's better while you're alive. All freemasons work with lucifer,the devil to get you soul into hell. How they do that is feed you heresy and make sure you don't know that Christ is God your maker because they know because lucifer tells them in their rituals that the knowledge that Christ is God is needed to get into heaven. So Lucifer makes a deal with them to get souls to him for something that they want here on earth or power in hell. It's a basic pyramid scheme like amway. So yes they are bad.
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I am a mason ! The Order in which we believe is different then what you think or even comprehend ! I also am a Templar knight and part of the blue church "illuminati". We are good people we believe in god! The reason for people thinking of us as devil worshipers is because of our past. People like Franklin , Galileo , newton, socretes, Plato , and others were masons but these people were constantly put on trial for proving the bible wrong! The biggest secret in which we obtain are holy artifacts in which Islam wants ! The third most important artifact to their religion! Which I cannot say! But Jesus was a mason, same with Peter, Daniel , and all the disciples ! So why did Rome destroy jerusalem! Learn , learn , learn all I can say
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Maybe they act evil because they love us.
Their job is to give us the extrem negativity. Doing so we are able to choose postvty. They are our cathalyst. THink about that..
Without the evil side we wouldnt be able to choose anything.. we wouldnt evolve!
Sure they are having fun here in this experince but they also know the amount of karma they are getting. Not a easy job if you think in a broader way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24221313


I disagree!


Here is why:

"Let me take this moment to state again that there are no devils or demons, except as you create them out of your belief...good and evil effects are basically illusions. In your terms all acts, regardless of their seeming nature, are a part of a greater good. (what you propose it's their intention.) I am not saying that a good end justifies what you would consider an evil action. (there goes your fake Masonic pretention.) While you still accept the effects of good and evil, then you had better choose the good. (now your phony fake premise reaaaaaaaaaaaly goes away!)I am saying this as simply as possible. There are profound complications beneath my words, however.


- Seth - Jane Roberts.



Being the CRIMINALS that they are (they run *everything*. and the world is full of **criminality**) they will say that "the ends justify the means and they will play the black/white square game.

They like it DIRTY!

Very "moral" they are!
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If they were the good guys, they wouldn't need to operate in the background.
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Perhaps because sometimes good people need to do things that normal people cannot comprehend for the human race to continue.
 Quoting: Caledonian Vampire 24489076


This is false, and it goes against all the petty criminality that they commit!

You are trying to make it something that it is not.
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I am a mason ! The Order in which we believe is different then what you think or even comprehend ! I also am a Templar knight and part of the blue church "illuminati". We are good people we believe in god! The reason for people thinking of us as devil worshipers is because of our past. People like Franklin , Galileo , newton, socretes, Plato , and others were masons but these people were constantly put on trial for proving the bible wrong! The biggest secret in which we obtain are holy artifacts in which Islam wants ! The third most important artifact to their religion! Which I cannot say! But Jesus was a mason, same with Peter, Daniel , and all the disciples ! So why did Rome destroy jerusalem! Learn , learn , learn all I can say
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It is easy to claim something when all others are dead.
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good guys don't hide in the shadows and play games with peoples minds they don't steal and they don't lie and spread false hope and that's what the Freemason and ill-um-inat-i do why would i put trust in secret organizations why not be up front and straight forward instead of hiding and playing games
the we are all one theme is utter bullshit ive had enough dealings with both personally to know what they are about one thing most of all MONEY second thing is POWER fuk them look at how shit is now do you think this is done by anyone else but them?
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Them and them only!

Anyone who praise these idiots deserve their hypocritical reality!

Moral MY ASS!

CORRUPT CRIMINAL TRASH!
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MY THEORY:
(excuse any grammar or errors, trying to type fast, this is going to just be rambling mostly so I don't forget anything)

illuminati= illuminated= enlightened ones
if they were evil do you think evil would let anyone know they were evil? light overcomes darkness. supposedly all the famous and wealthy people are part of illuminati and are all satan worshipers... including people in high positions of power... that would mean darkness is in reign. if there is a god, you think this would be able to happen? illuminati are masters of the law of attraction. they use spiritual guidance and the powers of the universe (LOA) to manifest what they want, that is why they rise. somehow material success is connected to spiritual success because they use the power of their mind to obtain the status of wealth and success. its nothing evil, its just something not everyone can achieve or even understand and that's why we are below them because they know things we don't know. if we are all children of god we have the power to create as well. open your eyes. why are we put on earth? to be happy and successful to attempt to live a life we dream of but not all of us can until we learn how to use the law of attraction. if you become successful in the material world I believe you go on to a spiritual world when u die. kings and queens in Egypt were put in pyramids with gold and material wealth why because somehow you do bring that to the next world. they try to protect this truth because some people would use this power for evil.

I came up with this theory because ever since I was young I was intrigued with wealth and success. I recently met a few very wealthy people that planted this seed in my head about the law of attraction and how it has worked for them. these people drive rolls royces and live in penthouses so I didn't even hesitate to believe this. I have had so many coincidences and synchronicities since then. I kept seeing signs. I see those as spiritual guides because I have been trying to manifest wealth and success for myself. in doing so I started attracting wealthy acquaintances into my life. one of them was wearing a shirt which had ILLUMINATI on it.. I didn't think anything of it until the sales associate at neiman marcus asked if we knew about it... well that planted this seed in my head. I felt like that also was a coincidence.. and now that leads me here writing this post.

I believe we are born already "chosen" as you know the illuminati also refers to themselves as the "chosen ones." our horoscopes have something to do with it and numerology. some people are chosen and will never know because they remain ignorant or ignore the signs. others that do see it and choose to follow them will become successful in life. this makes it rare.. and who said making it to heaven was going to be easy?? nothing worth having comes easy and if its easy its not worth having.

call me crazy, sometimes I think I am but I believe I have been chosen. too many signs around me that have guided me this far.
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also, please read this thread in this link. it gives more info on how the illuminati is GOOD.

[link to www.unexplained-mysteries.com]
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the illuminati and the massons are good! they are enlightened being, but even the force has a dark side. you have to also keep in mind the enlightened stress us so that we grow and evolve. ;)
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i have responsibilities given to me by my Creator
not by man
man has no right to give rights to anyone

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Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.
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Well there's the problem right there. Fuck you and your so called "Gods', btw.
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The illuminati is just another expression of the archonic control matrix. They seek godhood, but it will not end well for us if they achieve it.
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Simply put, yes, the Illuminati stands in opposistion to TPTB. TPTB are the enforcers of the Demiurge's false creation. The illuminati are just some archons who seek ascension within this system. Think agent Smith from The Matrix. By the end the machines had to make a deal with Neo to stop Smith from destroying it all. The illuminati is Smith.
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We are not evil, we do not seek 'Godhood', we do not seek to control the masses, we do not worship the Devil or anything of any religious nature. We are here for one simple reason - to release Mankind from the lies of the oppressive system of Religion, especially that of the Roman Catholic's church of corruption.
Ask yourself this.
Do you see anything on the news about Illuminati paedophiles? No. You see only that of the churches supposedly 'holy' men being these paedophiles.
We are men of science, not of evil. We seek only the truth from these lies. Mankind no longer needs Religion. Their day has come and gone. Soon there will be no Religion.

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:They have knowledge which can not be revealed to those who are not ready for it. Thus they have the right for secrecy.:

VERY well said.
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i have responsibilities given to me by my Creator
not by man
man has no right to give rights to anyone

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Some men discovered how to become Gods. You will have to either deal with that or die.
 Quoting: eScrew


That's not really the business of Masons. They have the rites and symbolism, but don't do the actual work. As supposed to say groups like the golden dawn derived ones, etc.
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The Masons cannot be good, their insignia is on my local courthouse that feeds itself upon the rights of the people.
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I am a master mason and You can not be accepted to join the masons in your not a good person. My application almost got denied because a member thought he had seen me looking at porn on a computer when it was actually an employee of mine. the confusion was straightened out and I was accepted. I laugh everytime you people think the masons are evil. Were your only friend in a sea of sharks.

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