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Message Subject What if Massons and Illuminati are the good guys?
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This is so much BS ....

Child murder ? satanism ? plot to rule world? chip implants ...

Please, think of it ... do you really think that so many thousands (if not millions) of men, who are part of masonry could hide such a thing. And dont give me that "oh it is only the high ranking leaders who know the full truth". bs. again. Masons are what they are. A group of normal men (not extremely powerful men, just normal people, admitted, mostly white, mostly middle class, but that is sociological) who want to make the world a better place. And the method is simple : change the world one person at a time, starting with your self.

All this horse-shit, conspiracy theories and stuff.

Why are we so secret if we are not good ?

Let me tell you.
First of all, there is nothing secret. Everything that goes on in a masonic temple can be easily found on the internet. It is nothing special you know. Just similar to other initiations like in highschool or in the boyscouts.
Yet there is a secret. A secret that can not be expressed by words... and it is very simple. It is the experience. A spanish poem says that it is easy to talk about bullfights, but it is completely different to stand in the arena face to face with a bull. That's it. That's the secret. You cant express hat it is like to stand in the arena facing a bull. You can watch it, you can describe it. but unless you did it yourself, you'll never know the experience... It is exactly the same with masonry. If you havent been in a brotherhood, if you have not been initiated, then you'll never be able to express the experience.
Membership is "discrete" (not secret, as some admit there membership openly). There are 2 reasons for that: 1° historically, masonry was founded in a time when kings and church ruled over the lands, and some independent men wanted to meat, to mingle, to form a union, but they would probably be destroyed by the powers that be if it was found. 2° there is so much prejudice and conspiracy theories these days, that masons are indeed worried that membership exposure could harm them. There is much debate inside the lodges on what exactly is the cause and what is the effect. Is the discreteness the effect of the conspiracy theories, or is it infact the cause...

Yes we have an ideal. And that ideal could be described as a new world order. It could also be described as utopia, or eden, or anything like that. We know it is not attainable. But you guys automatically assume it is bad ... it is evil... What if this ideal is indeed a place where all men and women can live in peace ? Develop them selves. Not pressured by religions or religious wars, but everyone have the right to live their own life. Choose their own faith. Believe what they want to believe, and have the right to defend it in words and in politics, not in war. This ideal is not difficult to find. It is in the constitution of the united states. over the years various political parties from right and left have contorted and interpreted this constitution into something it is not, but if you just read it, it comes pretty close to what the nwo should look like.

Greetings, Hiram Abiff, Master Mason :.
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the new angels and demons movie portayed the vatican/ rc church as the good guys and the illuminati as the bad guys. tthe vatican is the the top of the old world order and represents everything that is wrong with this world so how could they possibly be the good guys. it is more likely that the illuminati are the good guys, opposing the old world order.
 
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