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How many are strong enough to accept that there really is no such thing as friends or blood family?

 
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Family worship is heathen, a lot of Christians are realising that 'family' and 'friends' will betray you. The bible confirms this.
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This.

Its playing out jystvas the Bible predicted.
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Family worship is heathen, a lot of Christians are realising that 'family' and 'friends' will betray you. The bible confirms this.
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I was going to say the OP's message is a half-truth lie, and he needs Jesus.
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When you are broken and end up on the streets and you have no one left going back to family no matter how fucked up they are is still not as starving to death in the cold meeciless streets... trust me that is my situation and experience and even though it is so bad here with family I feel too tired to end up back on the streets without securing a lil bit of cash to at least be able to rent a roof over my own head.. being a prisoner of the babylon and living with enemy demon family members is fucked up but I learn to humble myself before the worst enemy and show them love and respect as if these demons are my only and best friends when all along they are the lowest of scum and have destroyed me all my life.. I cant do nothing cause poverty is a bitch and there is no good left out there in the streets.. I just came off the streets so I know.. but soon as I can I leave here too.. just need to get a couple of dollars in my hand to make the next step cause im too tired to do it without any more..
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It seems that ultimate meaning is found not in relationship to other people but with how one relates to existence itself.
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It seems that ultimate meaning is found not in relationship to other people but with how one relates to existence itself.
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And the relationship with God, the Creator.
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the problem is that most families are dysfunctional because they've had their priorities all mixed up for generations. people have not been evolved enough to know and practice unconditional love which requires to accept and support others as they are. everyone wants to bend others to what serves them and helps them perpetuate any distorted world view and concept they believe in. if you don't fit into that concept, you're either manipulated into changing or criticized and cast out. only when people learn how to live together and interact without expectations, relationships can exist in beneficial ways. so your frustration can be understood as a result from such disappointing experiences which didn't allow you to be yourself and be loved at the same time.
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Family worship is heathen, a lot of Christians are realising that 'family' and 'friends' will betray you. The bible confirms this.
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That's funny because I just discovered recently that my supposedly CHRISTIAN family have betrayed myself and my own Mother.
So how do you explain that? I suppose these pieces of shits assume that they are forgiven? AHAHAHAHA! Good luck with that.

skull_fing Fuck Christians.
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Family worship is heathen, a lot of Christians are realising that 'family' and 'friends' will betray you. The bible confirms this.
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That's funny because I just discovered recently that my supposedly CHRISTIAN family have betrayed myself and my own Mother.
So how do you explain that? I suppose these pieces of shits assume that they are forgiven? AHAHAHAHA! Good luck with that.

skull_fing Fuck Christians.
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LOL You're an idiot who can't read.
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Family worship is heathen, a lot of Christians are realising that 'family' and 'friends' will betray you. The bible confirms this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68257607


That's funny because I just discovered recently that my supposedly CHRISTIAN family have betrayed myself and my own Mother.
So how do you explain that? I suppose these pieces of shits assume that they are forgiven? AHAHAHAHA! Good luck with that.

skull_fing Fuck Christians.
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LOL You're an idiot who can't read.
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Hey stupid! You must be a "christian"

That's the point, it's an oxymoron you dumb fuck, you idiots are so fucking paranoid of family fucking with you as per your man written bible, that you fuck with them first. There is no rapture fuckface, and you will have to answer for your actions.
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Thank you OP, a sound voice in this puddle of madness.

Since childhood I'd preferred being alone, I still do.

Alone doesn't mean lonesome :)

:bumps:
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Great thread and insights.
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Until you become brave enough to accept that you do not need family or friends to cling to, you will never really be free.
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OP I enjoyed reading your honesty, for you try to see your reality as is uncolored as best you are able. I was once told by a renowned local psychic that I too was an old soul and had been here b4 a thousand times. But relief would be soon in that in just 3 more lifetimes I would become an Archangel.

Understand I am not taking the time typing for any self ego boost because I see all that as mundane. Also I cannot say I believe what the psychic told me nor 100% the view of the OP. But yet there are sparks that intrigue me.

I do nonetheless try to leave my mind open to all infinite possibilities until the truths of each self substantiate within my realm of understanding and reality in my due season. For your reality is different than mine in the micro, with the macro much more agreeable on what is.

I once had a full life of all the norms, family, friends, career, and other distractions. With that I sensed little of my inner wisdom. Only until I found myself 100% by some sad occurrences did I begin to deep think without all the "white noise". It is not for all. It is heart wrenching as you face demons unbeknownst before. A wonderful lady once told me “it is better to be alone than in bad company”. I hear her words reverberate.

My minds eye clutter is mostly removed and my inner home (my mind & body) is in renovation mode. I am 55 on the next blood moon. Serenity is fleeting, but desirous to seek. I cannot say I am where i need to be, only that I am 76% the way there. It can only get better from where I was.

So do not be sad when are at your lowest, for you are blessed because you have more to look forward to in your near to far years of journey than one who is at the height of their life, as the worry of losing so very much is a tremendous burden unto like a curse.

We are told to love others as we love ourselves. But I say unto you that one must 1st love themselves before they can ever truly love another. For if you do not know what love is within you cannot share it without. Actually most do not love themselves, this causes them to allow more pain into their lives for it is like a magnet that works either positive or negative & subconsciously on autopilot.

My initial advice for your betterment is to give yourself time to yourself away from all, at a certain time each day, alone in a nice place. Spend whatever time is comfortable for you as only you will know. Empty your mind and breathe deeply and just be.

Just exist for these few precious moments that are like precious coins ever increasing brick upon brick, step upon step your serenity. For your peace and serenity are a priority and a treasure unto your peace.

Someone will read these 10 paragraphs and be blessed, others will see and bypass as rubbish as their time and season is not yet. A haze can sometimes obscure people although mostly by no fault of their own.
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I accepted that truth along time ago. I was adopted for one thing, and trying to find any blood line has become an impossibility. I went threw links one time, and apparently my so-called mother wants nothing to do with me. she apparetly told them also for me not to search for my apparent siblings. so for being told this, I just said the heck with it then. However I was adopted to quite a wealthy and succesful family. Had a nice home a cabin and traveled alot in my youth. However I was allways different then everyone in my family,no matter how hard they tried to make me like one of them. I really have caused them more grief then anything,I truly believe if they didn't adopt me life for them would have been better. Oh and then their is this thing called friendship,wow I have been screwed over so many times by apparent friends. I really prefer to be alone,I have little to no faith in mankind anymore.
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I understand and hear & validate your suffering and can feel it too... Console yourself knowing you are right where you are meant to be and are at the helm of your vessel to turn to the right or to the left. You cannot give to others from an empty storehouse what they specifically need from you, therefore burdon not yourself.

Your siblings have been put ahead of you and your true roots have sadly eluded. Your identity is within not without. Give not others your treasure or strength, unless that is you have some to spare that day.

Expect nothing to give nor receive and neither shall you disappoint, instead allow it to flow in its season as such things cannot be rushed. Just exist this is your responsibility, anything beyond that consider a blessing for we know not what the morrow brings.


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Whether to accept it or not, we cannot find enlightenment or transition beyond this reality until we begin to understand who and what we are as human beings.

This journey is a solitary one. No one can do it for us or help us. This is our test/trial/experience.

This is NOT a group effort.
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I will concede that my spiritual tests, trials, and growth are mine and mine alone to pass, fail, embrace, or reject and that I'm fine with going against the grain and expectations of others to do what I believe is right. However, I also believe that how I treat my fellow travelers in this life is a big part of my spiritual journey.

If there is a such thing as an old soul, I doubt I am one. So what? I've learned a lot over the course of this lifetime. If there's more to learn, I'll learn it at my own pace in my own time. I'm not ashamed to say that I love my husband, I love my family, I love my pets, and I care about others.
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Mother? Who is my mother?
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Re: How many are strong enough to accept that there really is no such thing as friends or blood family?
In truth, people call each other family or friends because of weakness and fear. Fear of being alone, unloved and unsupported.

This is your journey, alone. No one else's.

I know, you think I'm being negative right? People desire people around them out of weakness, not because people are ugly or evil, but because they are weak.

I like people, but they can't be trusted...
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You are the one who lacks bravery. Isn't it evident to you that you fear being betrayed? To say everyone is going to betray you is paranoia plain and simple. A person with no fear would accept others into their life without fear of losing anything, even if you do get betrayed. You will have the strength to overcome the hurt of that betrayal and soldier on.

But on to what?

More happiness, which could lay behind any corner or with any random individual. Interaction with new and novel individuals and experiences, showing equal and reciprocal care and concern for eachother is where happiness rests, but you must be brave enough to wade through the flaws of other humans like yourself before you can find comparability.

You must earn love and friendship, but not by being subordinate to others, but by allowing yourself to receive it.
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Whether to accept it or not, we cannot find enlightenment or transition beyond this reality until we begin to understand who and what we are as human beings.

This journey is a solitary one. No one can do it for us or help us. This is our test/trial/experience.

This is NOT a group effort.
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I've chosen to be alone for many reasons.

It scares my Mom, but in the end, we are all alone. May as well skip the in between drama.
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It seems that ultimate meaning is found not in relationship to other people but with how one relates to existence itself.
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But your existence is reliant upon the existence of others. For you to properly relate to existence it's self you must understand this fully as well. You were created by other people, your parents, you would have died had they not bothered to maintain a relationship with you through their care for you. The goods you take advantage of daily are the results of other people's efforts which took entire life times and sometimes many generations to create.

To understand your existence here is to understand these relationships you MUST have with others. If this was not the case you wouldn't even be human.

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OP I enjoyed reading your honesty, for you try to see your reality as is uncolored as best you are able. I was once told by a renowned local psychic that I too was an old soul and had been here b4 a thousand times. But relief would be soon in that in just 3 more lifetimes I would become an Archangel.

Understand I am not taking the time typing for any self ego boost because I see all that as mundane. Also I cannot say I believe what the psychic told me nor 100% the view of the OP. But yet there are sparks that intrigue me.

I do nonetheless try to leave my mind open to all infinite possibilities until the truths of each self substantiate within my realm of understanding and reality in my due season. For your reality is different than mine in the micro, with the macro much more agreeable on what is.

I once had a full life of all the norms, family, friends, career, and other distractions. With that I sensed little of my inner wisdom. Only until I found myself 100% by some sad occurrences did I begin to deep think without all the "white noise". It is not for all. It is heart wrenching as you face demons unbeknownst before. A wonderful lady once told me “it is better to be alone than in bad company”. I hear her words reverberate.

My minds eye clutter is mostly removed and my inner home (my mind & body) is in renovation mode. I am 55 on the next blood moon. Serenity is fleeting, but desirous to seek. I cannot say I am where i need to be, only that I am 76% the way there. It can only get better from where I was.

So do not be sad when are at your lowest, for you are blessed because you have more to look forward to in your near to far years of journey than one who is at the height of their life, as the worry of losing so very much is a tremendous burden unto like a curse.

We are told to love others as we love ourselves. But I say unto you that one must 1st love themselves before they can ever truly love another. For if you do not know what love is within you cannot share it without. Actually most do not love themselves, this causes them to allow more pain into their lives for it is like a magnet that works either positive or negative & subconsciously on autopilot.

My initial advice for your betterment is to give yourself time to yourself away from all, at a certain time each day, alone in a nice place. Spend whatever time is comfortable for you as only you will know. Empty your mind and breathe deeply and just be.

Just exist for these few precious moments that are like precious coins ever increasing brick upon brick, step upon step your serenity. For your peace and serenity are a priority and a treasure unto your peace.

Someone will read these 10 paragraphs and be blessed, others will see and bypass as rubbish as their time and season is not yet. A haze can sometimes obscure people although mostly by no fault of their own.

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If you aren't looking for an ego boost than why are you putting yourself in bold so as to stand out?
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find your real friends and try protect them and your feelings until the Day of Lord, very soon.
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Dramatization of OP being forever alone down below:


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op is absolutely spot on
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From my point of view, there is no such thing as friends. Backstabbing fuckers who try to rip you off yes, but friends no.

I am alone now at 52 years old, have buried both my parents (did anyone ever tell you how heavy a body in a coffin is? The phrase "Dead Weight" means just that.

Had a wife and kids once, that went out the window just as soon as she realised she could make money doing fuck-all because the government would pay for her fat ass. Took me to the cleaners on the way though.

One of my supposed former friends got all uppity when I pointed out he bought and paid for his house off the deaths of his parents and for the years and years of illegal weed growing. I always wondered how an illiterate canuck could afford such nice cars.

Other 'Friend' turned out to be a bisexual paedophile whith a thing for his own niece, then I was witness to the bewildering partner-swapping amongst the rest of the supposed friends. I kinda lost track to be honest.

The final straw for me revolved around 4 women, one of which was an alcoholic, two were drug addicted nymphomaniacs, and the last was basically a human toilet. (Didn't realise that at first)

In the end, I walked away, cut all ties with my family and feel great. Just me. Alone, but never lonely.
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It seems that ultimate meaning is found not in relationship to other people but with how one relates to existence itself.
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But your existence is reliant upon the existence of others. For you to properly relate to existence it's self you must understand this fully as well. You were created by other people, your parents, you would have died had they not bothered to maintain a relationship with you through their care for you. The goods you take advantage of daily are the results of other people's efforts which took entire life times and sometimes many generations to create.

To understand your existence here is to understand these relationships you MUST have with others. If this was not the case you wouldn't even be human.
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i disagree

the vast majority of us have no clue of the power we ALL posses in our minds AND bodies, and we allow BOTH to wither away, and die, until at the end of our lives we are as feeble as new born babies

it could be oh so different.

so many of us are far too willing to jump into that hypothetical box that is open for us, and even seal ourselves into it

it is ridiculous.

the FIRST person we all need to 'have a relationship' with is ourselves, and the vast majority of us are CRAP at it
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hiding2

Its the hardest thing to accept- so scary and mostly makes me sad. Feels like you don't belong anywhere or there is something wrong with you.
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It's true your mission is your own but each persons life alters the direction of everyone elses. Without each other we wouldn't get anywhere, we need each other to learn and evolve spiritually.
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Sorry, but that is a lie. All you will gain from others is more pain and suffering. BUT, we do learn from it, so help yourself.

Again, my message is only for a very small few.
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Suffering is how you learn, exactly. That is the whole reason we're here, to learn, therefore we need other people whos actions impact us which we can learn from.
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i am adopted...so is my brother and so is my husband. As a kid i was a loner. And i was happy like that. People made me nervous. But as a mother myself if my kids couldn't depend on me,I would consider my life a utter failure. I was taught these values from my family. The bond we share means everything to me. It's worth more than any amount of gold.
They are my life. And I would give mine for theirs in a heartbeat. The only fear I know is for their safety. My mission in life is to protect, educate and teach them the values my parents taught me. Sometimes you have to take responsibility for another living soul, and you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. hf





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