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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/28/2015 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe. My marriage came to a point where not even hugs were free, and at that point, we stopped touching. As much as I wanted to touch and love my wife, I became locked into a totally non physical relationship. I'm still able to admire women in the physical sense, meaning my body still responds to images of women, but between my own psyche and the things that "a particular political view" has impressed upon society, I no longer can imagine the random sex from the "lizard brain" ascpect. Which is fine to be chaste in thought as was described in the new testament. But when it comes down to the same barrier keeping me from touching my own wife, then I wonder why I wasted the years of chastising my thoughts, if I might have extiguished my own spark for life. Would you mind sharing more? Are you still with your wife or did your leave her? Thanks. We're still married, but she moved a block away with the kids. I could never leave her, as my heart is bonded to her unto death and my only desire is to become a real husband once again. But our vows were modern vows, hinging only upon "as long as we both shall be happy". We've always been good friends, and never fought. But the closeness died as a result of my internalizing "never being good enough"="not enough money" multiplied by bad economy and bad luck =Not being good enough to touch my wife. And where we could have supported each other, we built a wall between. You ever think of going to a therapist to help you with your low self-esteem issues? Nothing will get better until you do. |
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Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 02/28/2015 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have all the testimonies of others, all my years of study,. all my years of own experiences too. I can´t experience the experiences of others. When you study statistics, you scry others, not your own experiences. Then you do the math. It´s all that cold, impersonal, obvious. Your attempts on invalidate all i said fail, Ms Citadel Moon. |
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Citadel Moon User ID: 59848368 United States 02/28/2015 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have all the testimonies of others, all my years of study,. all my years of own experiences too. I can´t experience the experiences of others. When you study statistics, you scry others, not your own experiences. Quoting: Senaden2 Then you do the math. It´s all that cold, impersonal, obvious. Your attempts on invalidate all i said fail, Ms Citadel Moon. A man cannot understand a woman, because he does not possess the experience itself. It works both ways. Math won't help you either. I haven't attempted to invalidate everything you've said. I haven't even attempted to invalidate your experiences as a man, but have said quite unequivocally, that it is unique unto itself. No amount of study or testimonials can substitute for experience itself. All your ebolas are belong to us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman calling a man "shallow" for that men wanting to have sex with her is utterly stupid. Quoting: Senaden2 Such behaviours in women is what enlarges the breach of sexual tension between genders that we are used to live and used to hate at the same time. Is like you women who choose to do so punish men for them being what they are: human beings enjoying their sexual aspect of themselves, punishing them with social withdrawal and isolation. I will never support a women who does that to a man, who punish a man for just wanting to enjoy their sexual nature. This is the horrible reality we live in. There are two things at stake here: what you are, and your attractiveness to the other gender. Of none of them you are to feel guilty on feeling attracted to other person, or to attract other people just by your external appearance. As a woman, I think it shallow to associate no value to an entire gender, because of your limited experiences with the women you know, or how much you allowed yourself to "See" them. I do not think it shallow to be attracted to, and want to explore options with one another. For clarity. Biologically, men see women as really awesome pets. And to suggest they use their minds to override the biology, only further entrenches the perception that women are pets. I don´t see women as pets, that´s utterly insulting and degrading. And whenever you or someone like you spews that shallow crap women end up blaming all men for such failure. No No, we shouldn't blame ALL men. Just the one who said it...lol Well said, dear Knight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When it comes to sex all castles in the air gets dissipated, and all castles in the sand, destroyed. Quoting: Senaden2 Sex is a touchy subject, a touchy asset. I think women sometimes "friend-zone" men because for whatever reasons, they think the sex would be sub-par. No Spark. Agreed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Citadel Moon Yes. I think some men get friend-zoned, because the woman thinks they would be bad in bed. let me say, that what you say sounds stupid: nobody can think anyone is bad in bed until you have the opportunity to test if that is right. Well, let me say that what you are saying is unequivocally not true. Body language tells more truth than anything that can come out of a persons mouth. unequivocally not true ambiguity is not a proper answer to this But hey, that´s women´s play, your play i won´t go further into it. I can assess from talking to a man, and watching the way he moves, and how he looks me in the eye if he would be a n intriguing partner or not. Sometimes tone of voice too. You would be surprised the amount of information that come across. And again, I am assuming this is a personal preference thing. As in, not that they wouldn't be the perfect man for another woman...just not me. And I do not care for the beta men...if that is what we are agreeing to call those who would be subservient to a female. Like you have to at least be able to beat me in chess. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have all the testimonies of others, all my years of study,. all my years of own experiences too. I can´t experience the experiences of others. When you study statistics, you scry others, not your own experiences. Quoting: Senaden2 Then you do the math. It´s all that cold, impersonal, obvious. Your attempts on invalidate all i said fail, Ms Citadel Moon. A man cannot understand a woman, because he does not possess the experience itself. It works both ways. Math won't help you either. I haven't attempted to invalidate everything you've said. I haven't even attempted to invalidate your experiences as a man, but have said quite unequivocally, that it is unique unto itself. No amount of study or testimonials can substitute for experience itself. Citadel Moon, you are brilliant dear. |
Citadel Moon User ID: 59848368 United States 02/28/2015 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have all the testimonies of others, all my years of study,. all my years of own experiences too. I can´t experience the experiences of others. When you study statistics, you scry others, not your own experiences. Quoting: Senaden2 Then you do the math. It´s all that cold, impersonal, obvious. Your attempts on invalidate all i said fail, Ms Citadel Moon. A man cannot understand a woman, because he does not possess the experience itself. It works both ways. Math won't help you either. I haven't attempted to invalidate everything you've said. I haven't even attempted to invalidate your experiences as a man, but have said quite unequivocally, that it is unique unto itself. No amount of study or testimonials can substitute for experience itself. Citadel Moon, you are brilliant dear. That is a welcome compliment coming from a woman who carries herself gracefully as a mystic. All your ebolas are belong to us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I seek to understand people. To understand the inner workings of the mind. I love men, and yet that doesn't work out so well for me sometimes...lol This thread is interesting. Raw, uncensored, straight to the point Shadow of men. There is a huge disharmony with men and women in the world. In case you haven't noticed. In some countries, it is so horrible, I wonder what the hell happened. As a bartender for many years, in many places, I have been privy to a wide assortment of conversations, and experiences that make me even more curious. I do know the desire to biblically "know" someone is driving. And the lengths one will go to achieve this are really mind blowing. And then I see the result of this after years of random people from all walks of life, sitting in front of me, drunk, spilling out their hearts. I believe men and women can be friends, because there are things about men I respect, and admire. And I am not conditional with many things. However, I have had a lot of experiences where I have put too much faith on mens ability to find value beyond fucking. And have felt the resentment of those who I thought were friends. So - this interests me. Even if I have to pull off my mask of wanting it to be a reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 02/28/2015 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any woman who is a "friend" to a man is in it for ONE reason. She is hoping to develop a relationship that will eventually lead to engagement. If you're a single man and she is a single woman this is surely what's on her mind. Quoting: Senaden2 If you believe otherwise, you're deluded. If a woman says she just wants to be friends or a man says he is just a friend, you are deluded and she or both of you are lying or too immature to see the truth.. Unless it's me, then I mean just friends. Unless I use the word Consort, then I mean Consort. :-) |
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Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women´s basics are not a mistery any longer, they were deciphered long ago. Only thing they can do is to whine about it, calling those men aware of the women´s game "delusional". Me, for one, i am the most reluctant to think this way, as always trying to find i was wrong. Yet years passes of experiences, and no, i find the sad evidence to confirm the sad expectations.... And when so many people, both in and out of the internet, confirms the same, there is a bigger pattern going on. Last Edited by Senaden2 on 03/01/2015 03:23 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women´s basics are not a mistery any longer, they were deciphered long ago. Quoting: Senaden2 Only thing they can do is to whine about it, calling those men aware of the women´s game "delusional". Me, for one, i am the most reluctant to think this way, as always trying to find i was wrong. Yet years passes of experiences, and no, i find the sad evidence to confirm the sad expectations.... And when so many people, both in and out of the internet, confirms the same, there is a bigger pattern going on. Ok - Lets just break this one down. "Women's Game" - I am taking this as an option that Females can pursue. Therefore, it is a free will choice of behavior, that is a possible choice, yet not inherent to women themselves. That said - personally i would add that those behaviors are "Girls" games, and you probably have met very few actual Women. Who was that spot on Author that referred to people as generally mentally younger than their apparent age, and added that they just might have a lot of experience being 22, or 18 or what have you. Like a 65 Year old man, can really be mentally of the age of 20, with 45 years of experience being a 20 year old? Yet never surpassing the intellect? Yeah. That. :-) That also being said, I would like to edit your previous comment about sleeping with 1000's of Women, to sleeping with 1000's of girls. LOL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All fun aside - there is a bigger pattern going on. And it has nothing to do with what is inherent in a girls/womans nature. I see some very strong, grounded, centered women with compassion and integrity running around the world though. And so many more growing up. When you look back in a couple generations from now, it will be quite different on a wide scale. This is the middle of the shift, I think. |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women´s basics are not a mistery any longer, they were deciphered long ago. Quoting: Senaden2 Only thing they can do is to whine about it, calling those men aware of the women´s game "delusional". Me, for one, i am the most reluctant to think this way, as always trying to find i was wrong. Yet years passes of experiences, and no, i find the sad evidence to confirm the sad expectations.... And when so many people, both in and out of the internet, confirms the same, there is a bigger pattern going on. Ok - Lets just break this one down. "Women's Game" - I am taking this as an option that Females can pursue. Yes, it is an option they pursue. The easy choice. Although it seems conditioned more or less also by biology. there would be other women who aren´t that much conditioned by it. but the women´s game, is something mainstream. ------- Only a handful of women i met were beyond the need to play girly games. But hell, those are extremely scarce. To the point of givin up Ms. Bodhi. I haven´t slept with 1000 women, thats stupid, a joke i made about people who boast about sleeping with many women as numbers on their lists... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women´s basics are not a mistery any longer, they were deciphered long ago. Quoting: Senaden2 Only thing they can do is to whine about it, calling those men aware of the women´s game "delusional". Me, for one, i am the most reluctant to think this way, as always trying to find i was wrong. Yet years passes of experiences, and no, i find the sad evidence to confirm the sad expectations.... And when so many people, both in and out of the internet, confirms the same, there is a bigger pattern going on. Ok - Lets just break this one down. "Women's Game" - I am taking this as an option that Females can pursue. Yes, it is an option they pursue. The easy choice. Although it seems conditioned more or less also by biology. there would be other women who aren´t that much conditioned by it. but the women´s game, is something mainstream. ------- Only a handful of women i met were beyond the need to play girly games. But hell, those are extremely scarce. To the point of givin up Ms. Bodhi. I haven´t slept with 1000 women, thats stupid, a joke i made about people who boast about sleeping with many women as numbers on their lists... I was playin....jeesh. Gotta have some humor in this thread... And yeah - my half sister is pure evil. So I am not defending the gender. By any means. And we are rare. Yet not out of print...lol |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The women´s game is a series of techniques to dominate and domesticate the men they are interested in. The women´s game supress your free will, to support the will of the woman´s desires. Most obvious tools of supression are: threats, shaming, withdrawal, discrimination, and finally, rupture. So, few women i met in fact enhanced and encouraged my manliness in any respect. The opposite: they were self-centered bitches who only cared about themselves and their needs. That makes you feel, like a tool for them, in fact, an object. Men who submit to this, are manginas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this whole categorizing women in the way that most of the men on here have, is a way to gain control, since the women choose who they sleep with. And you don't like that part. So you demean them. Because somewhere, sometime, there was one you really wanted, and you couldn't have her. So you took it out on all the rest. IMO |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To reply to the thread in general, after more meditation and pondering... Quoting: Bodhi Sita I think this whole categorizing women in the way that most of the men on here have, is a way to gain control, since the women choose who they sleep with. And you don't like that part. So you demean them. Because somewhere, sometime, there was one you really wanted, and you couldn't have her. So you took it out on all the rest. IMO I don´t seek to control anyone. I love women. I love everything. Even a rock or a grain of sand. I hate the woman´s game, only. Who would like to feel humiliated in any way?, women feel their aura of holiness threatened by this raising of awareness on how many women choose to use the woman´s game to dominate relationships. |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you love a man, encourage his manhood. If you love a woman, encourage her womanhood. That should be the base. But it seems rarely followed. Nowadays everything is twisted in a whirlpool of stupid fads seeking to create ambiguity on every corner to generate confusion to any loner that tries to build anything strong and hopeful on this society. We can choose to have some sense of identity, although it is something always temporary, it can be something good, for a temporary period, as well. Last Edited by Senaden2 on 03/01/2015 05:13 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To reply to the thread in general, after more meditation and pondering... Quoting: Bodhi Sita I think this whole categorizing women in the way that most of the men on here have, is a way to gain control, since the women choose who they sleep with. And you don't like that part. So you demean them. Because somewhere, sometime, there was one you really wanted, and you couldn't have her. So you took it out on all the rest. IMO I don´t seek to control anyone. I love women. I love everything. Even a rock or a grain of sand. I hate the woman´s game, only. Who would like to feel humiliated in any way?, women feel their aura of holiness threatened by this raising of awareness on how many women choose to use the woman´s game to dominate relationships. K - you don't get to be "Most" then..lol Wasn't specifically referring to you. No one should be humiliated, or made to feel their worth is just flesh. |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To reply to the thread in general, after more meditation and pondering... Quoting: Bodhi Sita I think this whole categorizing women in the way that most of the men on here have, is a way to gain control, since the women choose who they sleep with. And you don't like that part. So you demean them. Because somewhere, sometime, there was one you really wanted, and you couldn't have her. So you took it out on all the rest. IMO I don´t seek to control anyone. I love women. I love everything. Even a rock or a grain of sand. I hate the woman´s game, only. Who would like to feel humiliated in any way?, women feel their aura of holiness threatened by this raising of awareness on how many women choose to use the woman´s game to dominate relationships. K - you don't get to be "Most" then..lol Wasn't specifically referring to you. No one should be humiliated, or made to feel their worth is just flesh. So, many women think their worth for men is just flesh. And, many men think their worth for women is just their money. Both are being objetified. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68412190 United States 03/01/2015 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you love a man, encourage his manhood. Quoting: Senaden2 If you love a woman, encourage her womanhood. That should be the base. But it seems rarely followed. Nowadays everything is twisted in a whirlpool of stupid fads seeking to create ambiguity on every corner to create confusion to any loner that tries to build anything strong and hopeful on this society. We can choose to have some sense of identity, although it is something always temporary, it can be something good, for a temporary period, as well. |
Senaden2 User ID: 68415259 Spain 03/01/2015 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems we came here to experience gender. Neither manhood, or womanhood are being encouraged. Thus, all the pain we are living in our deranged societies. We could seek for whatever to be blamed on that, but ultimately the responsability of our actions falls on each one of us. So each grain of sand counts. |
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