This is what really happened to Jon-Benet Ramsey! Read carefully! She was obviously a victim of ritual sexual child abuse!

Great thread.

Pardon me....while I babble.
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I feel that everyone surrounding the case is suspect.

Evidence and facts surrounding the case were botched intentionally--to cause confusion.

Much of the information from officials I don't trust because of the cover ups and reluctance to pursue leads.

This cover up obviously reached the highest levels of some organized order/secret society.

The Karr angle may shed some light on the undergound practices that JonBenet may have been groomed for...I don't think that Karr was there but I think he shares similar psychotic/sexual fetishes as those close to Jonbenet.

If Patsy Ramsey did accidently kill Jonbenet during a fit of rage over Jonbenet's bedwetting then I still find the cause of the bedwetting suspicious. The recurring vaginal infections was an instant red flag.

Most women know that bubble baths lead to yeast infections and prevention is simple. Take plain baths. Now, I also know because I am a woman that drinking cranberry juice prevents UTI and bladder infections, and EATING PINEAPPLES to prevent yeast infections...esp. while taking antibiotics.

That is the first thing that came to mind when I heard of pineapples in her intestines and a bowl of pineapples showed up in a picture.

I also think that more than likely was a connection to secret sex ring...but it may not have been behind the actual murder of Jonbenet. It could have been occuring in the shadows and had to be supressed.

I don't know but I think there are 3 possible angles which may be intertwined.

1. The family did it.

2. Person(s) from their social-professional network of friends, colleagues, etc. did it and help to cover it up.

3. I doubt an unknown unrelated random person did it unless they are tied to some sexual craziness and that too had to be silenced.
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I wonder if Jonbenet was truly alive when the Ramsey's claim that she was asleep in the car while they delivered gifts. There was a witness who was delivered gifts that asked about Jonbenet. She may have even peeked at the child...but was the child alive or propped up to look sleep?

I am curious about the religious background of the parents, especially Patsy. I know I remember seeing a family photo and Patsy had an ornate cross around her neck. This was a cross that I had never seen before and it struck me as occultic. I also remember seeing Laura Bush wearing the same emblem. I put these two ladies in the same type of social-economic group. I know Patsy aspired to be like like a Jackie O but Patsy and Laura acted similar to me....very cold in the eyes. Strange and distant personalities....you know the royal facade. Most women on those levels act like that...the only one who seemed to have a soul was Princess Di.

I also don't trust this Fleet White guy. I don't know but the entire family all seem sort of strange to me.
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I don't know these folks personally but something really irked me about this crime. Perhaps is was the location Colorado. The airport, the underground tunnels, Columbine, many strange things happening there now...

Claycat - as usual your threads are concise & informative. I think its necessary to hear about such for those with children ... i certainly wouldnt want my own children to be associated with such people in ANY way. (Also, another thread was started about John Ramseys political & MSM involvements. But a few people tried to sidetrack it with attitudes of "so what".)

When I saw the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, I nearly fell out of my chair.

The secret society ritualistic sex orgy plot instantly affirmed many unpopular theories about Jonbenet's family.

I truly believe that those type of parties occur...and it sickens me to think that children could be the focus as opposed to consenting adults.

I think that movie was shedding light on hush hush events that occur behind closed doors of the insanely wealthy and elites.

It is possible that one of those Christmas parties was really a cover for a secret sex orgy that involved young children which included Jonbenet.

Perhaps John Carr wished he could have attended such an event but lacked an invitation. I can't see him having access to video footage. He's a nobody.

Unless video footage was available in Thailand or on the internet. (((shrug)))

I know when the case was first televised and I saw video footage of Jonbenet prancing around and some of her photos from her portfolio....she did look like a mini version of a erotica sex model in my opinion...her mannerisms were too sexually mature. The photo shoots were equivilent to something in an erotic magazine or one of those Call Me 1-900 commercials.

I think this is what outraged most people...you could feel what she was being forced to sell..and it wasn't sweet normal everyday feminine school girl innocence that's for damn sure!

She was selling erotic fantasy and sex. I can not believe the women judges of those pageants selected her to win. Little Miss Erotica...WTH?

I was not allowed to wear any red makeup, fingernail polish, lacey or sheer fabrics until I was 16 to 18 years old...because it was associated with whores and prostitutes.

I performed in dances and the like but my costumes were age appropriate and we were not coached to seduce the audience.

isn't it interesting that Mr. Ramsey's daughter by first marriage also died?

The pain of children caught in the twisted, evil world of ritual abuse is too horrifying to think about. I read the entire thread, I wish that I didn’t have to know such things exist. But they do exist and the more people that are aware of these horrendous things, the closer the children caught in the trap are to rescue.

As I read everyone’s thoughtful heartfelt responses I thought of a scripture. Ephesians 5:10-12, Try to discover what the Lord wants of you, take no part in the futile works of darkness but on the contrary, show them up for what they are. The things which are done in secret are shameful even to speak of:”

Thank you Claycat for 'showing them up for what they are'

i pointed this out a couple of pages ago, glad to see someone else who reads, my god, they raised their children in dog cages, and those are the people who are now in the skull and bones society

Reopen the case? the case has never closed. It is clearly very much an open case if they are busy charging somebody wuith the crime.

Babbles, have you ever considered the possibility that there is no huge satanic conspiracy behind the murder of JonBenet? have you ever considered the possibility that sometimes people are horribly murdered by crazy people and there is no satanic ritual sex abuse conspiracy involved?

I see no relevance between your comment and my comment. I have no problem whatsoever accepting that priests CAN BE (not all are) paedophiles and other things as well. I believe there are many rgeat conspiracies in the world as well...i just don't think that because conspiracies exist that everything in the world IS ONE.

Here's a free PDF copy of Cathy O'Brien's great book "Trance Formation of America"... (a former mind controlled CIA/MKULTRA/Project Monarch asset, lots of good stuff about the New World Order in there, Cheney raping her years ago, and her father apparently knew JonBenet's father -- they're all connected to these child abuse MKULTRA/Project Monarch rings) Enjoy.

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Yes, I have considered that. However, as more leaks occured many lead me to consider more outrageous possibilities.

The problem with this case is the media, how the events unfolded and the collection of evidence.

All have created this circus, but no stone should be left unturned. All possibilities should be considered...even those that may seem unlikely.

JMHO

Intersting.

Elizabeth Loftus, PhD Psychology, ex UWash, Now UCSD(?)has an almost insane obsession with trying to prove that mind control, and hidden memories of child abuse are just so much cowshit.

Makes me wonder if she was 'done' as a child, and protecting somebody.

She pushes her 'False Memory Syndrome' books and studies as if her life depended on it.

the inconsistency of the daye
she died on the 25th but the autopsy was done on the 26th


nothing odd about that

I keep getting an error messae that the file is damaged when I click on the link.

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Was the time of death listed as December 26th on the autopsy report? If so, then it is strange that her headstone lists time of death as Dec. 25th.

been checking out the pdf s but it is likely that damage control by the freaks is underfoot



The whole thing is beyond bizarre


It is my understanding that she had a bedwetting problem
this would indicate likely that sexual abuse as a cause-many children with this problem have this type of history

Patsy took her to doctors all the time 33 times in a yr or 2 seems excessive

doctors priests coaches teachers rabbis politicians etc are frequently part of these rings and work diligently to keep things covered and to protect the satanists, illuminati, rings


corruption of children is a sodomitic pasttime

McMartin preschool fits in with Presidio and Aquino and the temple of set-in boulder there is alot of activity in that area-

Many of these child corrupters are covered by high ranking freaks-#41 was tied in with Boys Town and Franklin coverup with Larry King of Omaha-think SAC yes virginia there is a devil and a host of lovers of perversity

Dyncorp and many other companies use their front to move children around like cattle and defile them, debase them so they will be trapped in theit shame guaranteeing silence...


The truth is far more horrid and will be revealed-it is beyond insane the amount of people involved in these rings or ritual abuse


The very fact thst one rarely hears about this and some officials like to say it has never been proven speaks VOLUMES ABOUT THE LACK OF CONFIRMATION

They are insidious in their ability to cover to hide and to dispose of-even the Finders with the J Gosch story...it is rampant throughout the world and these folks are soulless and only appear to be human-they are shells-parasites on the young and innocent

It is disgusting and they shall reap as they have sown

They shall be cast down and shall never rise again

Seems damage control is the main agenda with these freaks, child corrupters


She had a therapist who is credible getting threatening phonecalls

Mystery Woman in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case has received telephone messages ordering her to stay away from her patient, who has come forward with allegations of lifelong sexual abuse by a ring that includes figures in the Ramsey case.

The five messages were left at the office of Mary Bienkowski over what is believed to be a six-month period. One of the calls appears to be made by one woman and the other four made by a second woman.

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The text of the calls follows:

1. (Caller One) "Hello Mary. This is a very interested party in regards to (Mystery Woman's) welfare. (Her) past and her future are of no, of no concern to you. She made an error in judgement when she came to see you and you have caused her nothing but pain and suffering. Her main concern now is her new husband and her family. She has started a life and is going to be moving as far away from you as possible. She belongs with her family and nobody else. She is off limits to you."

2. (Caller Two) "Hello. Leave (Mystery Woman) alone. We take care of our own. Everything. And nothing is any of your business."

3. (Caller Two) "Hello. It's high time that you caught on that (Mystery Woman) doesn't have time for your foolishness. Thank you."

4. (Caller Two) "(Mystery Woman) is going on an extended vacation with her family and while there will seek medical care for her problems. (Mystery Woman) has forgotten more than you will ever know. So."

5. (Caller Two) "Hello. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us. So leave (Mystery Woman) alone. It's against the law to disturb the peace. Don't forget it."

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there are thousands of links out there but how many are really necessary to open ones eyes

These freaks are real and it really does happen-Likewise many try to promote the flase memory syndrome but when one has scars on their body it isn't fantasy that scarred their bodies-we are the living witnesses and we shall not be silenced

i could not agree more, yet 99% of the sheeple would lock us up for what we know and believe *sigh*

Has anyone mentioned the fact that as the suspect was being flown back from Thailand, Jon benet's father was show throwing in some bags in his airplane and was reported to be leaving the country. I made the commment to my wife that if the purported killer of my daughter was being brought tojustice the last thing i would do is haul ass out of the country. This speaks to me of something sinister. I think he's afraid of what this guy is going to reveal.

there is no such thing as "satanic ritual abuse". this is a fraud invented by nutbars, much along the same lines as the "snuff film" lie used by oppenents of pornography. trouble is, not one "snuff film" or "satanic ritual cult" has ever been found.

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hmmmm. john probably had business to attend to and it doesn't stop simply because someone else has reached USA soil.

no one can truly say what really happened that night except for those who were there. others are simply guessing and having their fatasies tickled. imho.

i wonder how many have already set in their minds who did what to whom and will anyone who is truly guilty ever have a fair trial due to it.

one can hide many easter eggs. just because you don't find them it doesn't mean they aren't there. it also doesn't mean there are more than were hidden either.

hmmmm. remember something about hunter s. thompson being involved (possibly) in a "snuff film". wasn't there someone who posted something like that at the time of his death. the last part of my previous post was to you. hidden easter eggs. i remember the different churches protesting in different cities a "supposed snuff film" by all accounts, it did indeed look as though the person was killed in the end.

people who have no believe in satan or christianity, are just as easily able to commit abusive acts as anyone. perhaps things would move further along if it were simply "child abuse rings" than "satanic abuse rings" if you get my drift.

The Evil Bullshit Jew Hater strikes again! There is NO such provision in Talmud, unless you count the numerous fake talmuds slapped together by idiot Jew Hater sites.
There is absolutely no basis in reality for the above quoted Jew Hate post.

If you believe the above BS, you are the nutbar.

As I said before there are living witnesses and we shall continue to speak out until all of this stops

completely


we are living testament to these things and our testimony is heard by the Most High


The truth will set one free

The truth will keep coming and it will not stop until all these child corruptors are stopped-regardless of whatever lofty office they hold

They shall be thrown down

Why do so many people think it is so important to deny Satanic activity? Sure, there are pervs who are not in cults--so what?