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Why There Were No Helicopter Rescues on 911 | |
| WHY NOT User ID: 67205106  Switzerland03/02/2015 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 854647  United States03/02/2015 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have any of you wondered why on 9-11 no helicopter rescue attempts were made to get people out of the twin towers? I know I did. It was one of the first thoughts that entered my mind while watching the buildings burn on television that morning. Why don’t they start getting people off from the rooftops? What were they expecting, that firefighters after climbing up 100 stories — gear and all — would be able to carry those down who were too injured to walk on their own? Quoting: WHY NOT 67205106 Of course not. The brutal truth is, those people ‘needed to die’. Everyone in the upper floors would have witnessed that there were no planes. And they would have seen all sorts of other ‘oddities’ (explosives going off, etc.). Their exit paths were purposely cut off. The doors to the roof area were locked and in all likelihood disabled with brass pin lock inserts. Their downward escape routes were deliberately smoke flooded. The planners of 9-11 needed to make sure no one would live to tell what they really saw. I remember reading about that, yes. Good observation about why. I would give you 5*s, but I've used up my allotment for today. I'll getcha tomorrow. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62684562 United States03/02/2015 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have any of you wondered why on 9-11 no helicopter rescue attempts were made to get people out of the twin towers? I know I did. It was one of the first thoughts that entered my mind while watching the buildings burn on television that morning. Why don’t they start getting people off from the rooftops? What were they expecting, that firefighters after climbing up 100 stories — gear and all — would be able to carry those down who were too injured to walk on their own? Quoting: WHY NOT 67205106 Of course not. The brutal truth is, those people ‘needed to die’. Everyone in the upper floors would have witnessed that there were no planes. And they would have seen all sorts of other ‘oddities’ (explosives going off, etc.). Their exit paths were purposely cut off. The doors to the roof area were locked and in all likelihood disabled with brass pin lock inserts. Their downward escape routes were deliberately smoke flooded. The planners of 9-11 needed to make sure no one would live to tell what they really saw. Yeah, um, a helicopter would have been incinerated from the heat...but keep trying... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68450927  Canada03/02/2015 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think there were people on the roof, first of all. Second, there is the issue of smoke and heat. Smoke could blind the crew. Then you have heat. Heat reduces the ability of an airfoil (wing or rotor-blade) to produce lift. Then you have, let's just say the police helicopters. Bigger than the news choppers, but not big like a CH-47 Chinook. In each of these, you have 2 pilots and at least 1 or 2 crew in the rear. The ability to rescue many people under these circumstances would be very limited, due to weight issues and heat. Then imagine a panicked rush by dozens of people for a landing helicopter, which cannot possibly take off with all of them. Just a few thoughts from a guy with a bunch of helicopter experience. |
| Still not believing User ID: 9896570 United States03/02/2015 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a well placed shill. There were no planes that hit either tower. This is the same dis information spread by shills on the street who immediately said when asked," Who was responsible?" They replied without hesitation," Osama bin Laden!" I had no idea who this was until I looked him up on Wiki. The cover up goes very deep onto the rabbit hole, my friends, as deep as it gets.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68450927 Canada03/02/2015 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think there were people on the roof, first of all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68450927 Second, there is the issue of smoke and heat. Smoke could blind the crew. Then you have heat. Heat reduces the ability of an airfoil (wing or rotor-blade) to produce lift. See link. Then you have, let's just say the police helicopters. Bigger than the news choppers, but not big like a CH-47 Chinook. In each of these, you have 2 pilots and at least 1 or 2 crew in the rear. The ability to rescue many people under these circumstances would be very limited, due to weight issues and heat. Then imagine a panicked rush by dozens of people for a landing helicopter, which cannot possibly take off with all of them. Just a few thoughts from a guy with a bunch of helicopter experience. Density altitude and Pressure altitude. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Density altitude is the altitude relative to the standard atmosphere conditions (ISA) at which the air density would be equal to the indicated air density at the place of observation. In other words, density altitude is air density given as a height above mean sea level. "Density altitude" can also be considered to be the pressure altitude adjusted for non-standard temperature. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68450927 Canada03/02/2015 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66040444 United States03/02/2015 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The helicopters were too busy dropping the explosive charges that brought 'em down (clearly visible in the unedited "Loose Change" video). You could clearly see the bright flash as the payload was "fired" and the nearly immediate collapse of each tower !!!!!!! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66575894  Malta03/02/2015 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are a moron. There is plenty of footage from NYPD air units that day; and they got as close as they could - and there were people waiting on the roof. Apart from the billowing smoke the terrible truth is that the heat was so great that the people who made it to the roofs were being cooked alive. Heat rises. If a helicopter had of tried a landing they would have overheated and crashed. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9636232 United States03/02/2015 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are a moron. There is plenty of footage from NYPD air units that day; and they got as close as they could - and there were people waiting on the roof. Apart from the billowing smoke the terrible truth is that the heat was so great that the people who made it to the roofs were being cooked alive. Heat rises. If a helicopter had of tried a landing they would have overheated and crashed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66575894 Why wasn't Edna Cintron cooked alive? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 854647 United States03/02/2015 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think there were people on the roof, first of all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68450927 Second, there is the issue of smoke and heat. Smoke could blind the crew. Then you have heat. Heat reduces the ability of an airfoil (wing or rotor-blade) to produce lift. Then you have, let's just say the police helicopters. Bigger than the news choppers, but not big like a CH-47 Chinook. In each of these, you have 2 pilots and at least 1 or 2 crew in the rear. The ability to rescue many people under these circumstances would be very limited, due to weight issues and heat. Then imagine a panicked rush by dozens of people for a landing helicopter, which cannot possibly take off with all of them. Just a few thoughts from a guy with a bunch of helicopter experience. Doors to the roof were locked, I recall reading (and as OP stated). As for the smoke, there was quite a breeze blowing that morning; to the east/southeast, if I remember correctly. Thus, a helicopter could've landed on the roof. But as stated, it appears that no one was able to get to the roof, for one. And two, no one thought the Towers would experience total collapse (demolition). |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3230238  Yemen03/02/2015 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to wonder about people with the No planes theory, But then it all made sense to me. We are entering the age of illusion and magic --the age of the anti-Christ 9/11 was an initiation into greater illusions and magic to come. That, and the fact that I saw the second tower literally disappear with no smoke or dust. One second I'm looking At it with smoke coming out of a dozen floors or so and I turn around to talk to a friend for 5 seconds and boom gone! No smoke no dust just erased from the scene. |
| national socialist, eh User ID: 68442056 Canada03/02/2015 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are a moron. There is plenty of footage from NYPD air units that day; and they got as close as they could - and there were people waiting on the roof. Apart from the billowing smoke the terrible truth is that the heat was so great that the people who made it to the roofs were being cooked alive. Heat rises. If a helicopter had of tried a landing they would have overheated and crashed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66575894 the fires were out. firemen have been caught on recordings saying the fires were smoldering, hence the black smoke. that theory can go back into your ass. a veracious one. gott mit uns. |
| Wookiee666 User ID: 62421844 United States03/02/2015 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, um, a helicopter would have been incinerated from the heat...but keep trying... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62684562  and turbulence - choppers are very fragile. Last Edited by JustSomeGuy_42 on 03/02/2015 09:05 AM Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
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| Wookiee666 User ID: 62421844 United States03/02/2015 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to wonder about people with the Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3230238 No planes theory, But then it all made sense to me. We are entering the age of illusion and magic --the age of the anti-Christ 9/11 was an initiation into greater illusions and magic to come. ...  Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63655070 United States03/02/2015 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, um, a helicopter would have been incinerated from the heat...but keep trying... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62684562 Dumb fuck, air flight was shut down, Not to all traffic as this video shows. 3 helicopters can be seen. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] But the doors to the roofs were locked and there was no one there to save. |
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