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AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it free choice if God knew what they would decide before he created them? Quoting: AgnosticQuestions Well I don't claim to have the answer to everything, but don't go talking yourself out of your one chance of salvation, like stupid ole' Charlie Boy here. HI THERE!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)] Great Tract by the way! AgnosticQuestions |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4418353 United States 03/04/2015 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Einstein, all time (Past, Present and Future) exists simultaneously. We travel on the line from beginning to end, but to an outside observer of the universe (e.g. creator of the universe) All time would occur at once. Thus, the creator would have already observed the totality of time, even though you haven't gotten there yet. [link to everythingforever.com] Problem solved, next question. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was zero stumping. You are a dishonest swine who has consistently been refuted. Enjoy hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 Actually no one has ever come up with a sufficient answer... now go have a Guinness or two my friend, your not thinking clearly. A sufficient answer according to you? I addressed this clearly. You just don't like the answers you receive. And I don't drink kiwi. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68467744 Australia 03/04/2015 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When god creates each soul he knkws already which ones are going to be burnt alive forever in screaming agony. .and which ones are not. how? Cause he is alpha and omega..beginning and end..so before you were even born you were slated to be tortured forever..cause he was already at the other end of time commencing your torture. hes also 300 billion years in the future torturing you..and realising that after all that time that his hate of you and need for revenge is in fact insatiable..and commences to torture yiu for another trillion years..and after that realises he hates you just as much still..and continues your endless sadistic horro..for another 500 trillion years..and then does it all ober again..because his mercy endures firever..and his love never fails..and he is so gentle and forgiving. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When god creates each soul he knkws already which ones are going to be burnt alive forever in screaming agony. .and which ones are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 how? Cause he is alpha and omega..beginning and end..so before you were even born you were slated to be tortured forever..cause he was already at the other end of time commencing your torture. hes also 300 billion years in the future torturing you..and realising that after all that time that his hate of you and need for revenge is in fact insatiable..and commences to torture yiu for another trillion years..and after that realises he hates you just as much still..and continues your endless sadistic horro..for another 500 trillion years..and then does it all ober again..because his mercy endures firever..and his love never fails..and he is so gentle and forgiving. It is not God's responsibility if people go to the lake of fire, it s their own. You and your ilk just won't accept that you alone are responsible for your own life and choices. You seek to put the blame on God. But you yourselves will to be blame if you reject God's will and his son. YOU alone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68467744 Australia 03/04/2015 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god was not so twisted and cruel with his punishments..and only used them to correct like a parent does with a wayward child..I would trust him. but because he is so twisted and cruel and sadistic with his punishment..I cant trust him. its like expecting a child to love a father whos punishment for being naughty..as children are..is to pour boiling water over that child again and again..and then wondering why that child refuses to run into daddys arms shouting "I love yiu daddy" with all its skin hanging off. the god you christians preach is the most sadistic twisted fuck of a parent ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did not your own parents warn you about your decisions and personal choices having consequences? Choose God or reject him and his will. But know there will be serious consequences in the former. We are all God's creation. He can do with us as he pleases. Humble yourselves before him or don't. Be for him or against him. Heaven or hell. Simple. Severe lack of stumping. |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When god creates each soul he knkws already which ones are going to be burnt alive forever in screaming agony. .and which ones are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 how? Cause he is alpha and omega..beginning and end..so before you were even born you were slated to be tortured forever..cause he was already at the other end of time commencing your torture. hes also 300 billion years in the future torturing you..and realising that after all that time that his hate of you and need for revenge is in fact insatiable..and commences to torture yiu for another trillion years..and after that realises he hates you just as much still..and continues your endless sadistic horro..for another 500 trillion years..and then does it all ober again..because his mercy endures firever..and his love never fails..and he is so gentle and forgiving. It is not God's responsibility if people go to the lake of fire, it s their own. You and your ilk just won't accept that you alone are responsible for your own life and choices. You seek to put the blame on God. But you yourselves will to be blame if you reject God's will and his son. YOU alone. If your truly honest, you KNOW you getting your POUND of flesh by arguing in these threads. Open the bible... start reading ... get to the part about the talking snake, and then put that book in the pile of Myths from all the other Primitive tribes and cultures. AgnosticQuestions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god was not so twisted and cruel with his punishments..and only used them to correct like a parent does with a wayward child..I would trust him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 but because he is so twisted and cruel and sadistic with his punishment..I cant trust him. its like expecting a child to love a father whos punishment for being naughty..as children are..is to pour boiling water over that child again and again..and then wondering why that child refuses to run into daddys arms shouting "I love yiu daddy" with all its skin hanging off. the god you christians preach is the most sadistic twisted fuck of a parent ever. With great power comes great responsibility. Punishment or reward. God has stated the terms and has allowed us the free-will to choose between them. Why should God allow you into his kingdom if you hate him and reject his terms? He shouldn't. But he will reward some with paradise for accepting his rules and for being humble and obedient towards him. He deserves total reverence. We are talking about Almighty God here, the Creator of all life and of the Universe. Pride is such a vile thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When god creates each soul he knkws already which ones are going to be burnt alive forever in screaming agony. .and which ones are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 how? Cause he is alpha and omega..beginning and end..so before you were even born you were slated to be tortured forever..cause he was already at the other end of time commencing your torture. hes also 300 billion years in the future torturing you..and realising that after all that time that his hate of you and need for revenge is in fact insatiable..and commences to torture yiu for another trillion years..and after that realises he hates you just as much still..and continues your endless sadistic horro..for another 500 trillion years..and then does it all ober again..because his mercy endures firever..and his love never fails..and he is so gentle and forgiving. It is not God's responsibility if people go to the lake of fire, it s their own. You and your ilk just won't accept that you alone are responsible for your own life and choices. You seek to put the blame on God. But you yourselves will to be blame if you reject God's will and his son. YOU alone. If your truly honest, you KNOW you getting your POUND of flesh by arguing in these threads. Open the bible... start reading ... get to the part about the talking snake, and then put that book in the pile of Myths from all the other Primitive tribes and cultures. What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When god creates each soul he knkws already which ones are going to be burnt alive forever in screaming agony. .and which ones are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 how? Cause he is alpha and omega..beginning and end..so before you were even born you were slated to be tortured forever..cause he was already at the other end of time commencing your torture. hes also 300 billion years in the future torturing you..and realising that after all that time that his hate of you and need for revenge is in fact insatiable..and commences to torture yiu for another trillion years..and after that realises he hates you just as much still..and continues your endless sadistic horro..for another 500 trillion years..and then does it all ober again..because his mercy endures firever..and his love never fails..and he is so gentle and forgiving. It is not God's responsibility if people go to the lake of fire, it s their own. You and your ilk just won't accept that you alone are responsible for your own life and choices. You seek to put the blame on God. But you yourselves will to be blame if you reject God's will and his son. YOU alone. If your truly honest, you KNOW you getting your POUND of flesh by arguing in these threads. Open the bible... start reading ... get to the part about the talking snake, and then put that book in the pile of Myths from all the other Primitive tribes and cultures. What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! AgnosticQuestions |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 It is not God's responsibility if people go to the lake of fire, it s their own. You and your ilk just won't accept that you alone are responsible for your own life and choices. You seek to put the blame on God. But you yourselves will to be blame if you reject God's will and his son. YOU alone. If your truly honest, you KNOW you getting your POUND of flesh by arguing in these threads. Open the bible... start reading ... get to the part about the talking snake, and then put that book in the pile of Myths from all the other Primitive tribes and cultures. What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. |
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AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgnosticQuestions If your truly honest, you KNOW you getting your POUND of flesh by arguing in these threads. Open the bible... start reading ... get to the part about the talking snake, and then put that book in the pile of Myths from all the other Primitive tribes and cultures. What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? AgnosticQuestions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68467744 Australia 03/04/2015 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People DO talk to snakes...its in the harry potter books. lord voldemort talked to snakes...so did harry potter. see..it IS possible. and is we dont belive in those books lord voldemort will torture you in azkaban prison. but its your free choice to accept this or not. belive in harry potter or be tortured. free will. but like most athiests..those who dont belive in magical talking snakes and cursed fruit..yiu willingly choose to feject harry potter..and so you will be sent to azkaban to be tormented by the dementors..they are real ya know. |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? Ireland didn't like that one. AgnosticQuestions |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgnosticQuestions Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? Ireland didn't like that one. Ireland... do you believe that it is better to take your child to hospital if they are very sick or not take them and just have faith the size of a mustard seed and pray that God will heal them? AgnosticQuestions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 What do you mean? And no, the holy bible and all the stories in it are the absolute Truth. It is God's word after all and he doesn't lie. Written by men who were his trusted servants the Prophets and were fully inspired by his holy spirit when writing them. You just lack faith. Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? You mean real Prophets of God? Soon they will do much greater things. You can count on it. ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People DO talk to snakes...its in the harry potter books. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 lord voldemort talked to snakes...so did harry potter. see..it IS possible. and is we dont belive in those books lord voldemort will torture you in azkaban prison. but its your free choice to accept this or not. belive in harry potter or be tortured. free will. but like most athiests..those who dont belive in magical talking snakes and cursed fruit..yiu willingly choose to feject harry potter..and so you will be sent to azkaban to be tormented by the dementors..they are real ya know. What power do fictitious characters have? None. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgnosticQuestions Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? Ireland didn't like that one. I have no problem with it. This is not the only thread on GLP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? Ireland didn't like that one. Ireland... do you believe that it is better to take your child to hospital if they are very sick or not take them and just have faith the size of a mustard seed and pray that God will heal them? I am not a Jehovah's witness. God graced us with doctors and all the discoveries of science. So I would use them obviously. And pray. |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgnosticQuestions Yes and i'll burn in hell for daring to reason rather than taking the written word of some primitive tribes people written thousands of years ago. TALKING SNAKE ... TALKING SNAKE ! You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? You mean real Prophets of God? Soon they will do much greater things. You can count on it. ;) No i'm talking about today's magicians or those into the occult. Pharaohs magicians were able to turn Rods into snakes. I just find it strange how there is no evidence of it EVER occurring again since. AgnosticQuestions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68467744 Australia 03/04/2015 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many christians have died because some faith healer told em to stoo taking their medicine because they were "healed" and to keep taking medicine meant a lack of faith and thus the possibility of burning in hell for not believing? I used to be a christian for decades..and saw this shit all the time..and nver once..despite all the so called healing meetings..did I ever witness even one actual healing. but I did see a lot of deaths. |
AgnosticQuestions (OP) User ID: 68438856 New Zealand 03/04/2015 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgnosticQuestions Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? Ireland didn't like that one. Ireland... do you believe that it is better to take your child to hospital if they are very sick or not take them and just have faith the size of a mustard seed and pray that God will heal them? I am not a Jehovah's witness. God graced us with doctors and all the discoveries of science. So I would use them obviously. And pray. Is there any chance that it would be the Doctors who would save the child, and that the prayer wouldn't make a squat of difference ? Any chance at all? AgnosticQuestions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68441986 You freely choose to reject it. You seem to think it a hard thing for the Creator of the Universe to make a snake talk. Strange. Why can't magicians today turn Rods into snakes like they did for Moses when he was confronting Pharaoh? You mean real Prophets of God? Soon they will do much greater things. You can count on it. ;) No i'm talking about today's magicians or those into the occult. Pharaohs magicians were able to turn Rods into snakes. I just find it strange how there is no evidence of it EVER occurring again since. Yeah that is something I have wondered about before. I believe there is power in real magic but that most of it has been forgotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68441986 Ireland 03/04/2015 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many christians have died because some faith healer told em to stoo taking their medicine because they were "healed" and to keep taking medicine meant a lack of faith and thus the possibility of burning in hell for not believing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68467744 I used to be a christian for decades..and saw this shit all the time..and nver once..despite all the so called healing meetings..did I ever witness even one actual healing. but I did see a lot of deaths. The bible also tells us not to tempt God so I am not responsible for the ignorance of some Christians. God performs miracles everyday. Just because people reject them for being so does not mean they are not. Death is the norm and has always been there. |