True separation of church and state, does it exist in this world ? | |
Post (OP) User ID: 65492692 United States 03/04/2015 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With no separation of church and state, should we not at least make the new Americans take a vow of allegiance to the American way and laws prior to accepting them in ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65492692 Dearborn comes to mind as to what not to let happen. This wont end well if we don't all play by the same rules. What is the "American way"? sounds exactly like the "British values", which IS the Trojan horse, Do you behead people because they speak badly about your religious leaders who are dead, does badmouthing a dead pope or queen or king equate to a need to behead you ? that is what i mean about the American way, free speech and such... Last Edited by ELEmental1 on 03/04/2015 11:09 AM |
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Post (OP) User ID: 65492692 United States 03/04/2015 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With no separation of church and state, should we not at least make the new Americans take a vow of allegiance to the American way and laws prior to accepting them in ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65492692 Dearborn comes to mind as to what not to let happen. This wont end well if we don't all play by the same rules. What is the "American way"? sounds exactly like the "British values", which IS the Trojan horse, Do you behead people because they speak badly about your religious leaders who are dead, does badmouthing a dead pope or queen or king equate to a need to behead you ? that is what i mean about the American way, free speech and such... Even the Pope has said he would sock you in the mouth... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68478743 United States 03/04/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My ancestors fought long for this separation..that no longer exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4759674 Did it ever in truth or was it simply obscured to you ? Revelation ? Is freemasonry a religion ? btw, freemasonry is a religion to, u are required to pick one, before becoming a member. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65989994 United States 03/05/2015 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The church (omit name) tells me we are to support this government and they do not involve themselves in politics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65492692 My question is do we support the state religion too then ? and what religion is that exactly ? which one did the founding fathers set up shop under ? the state religion is anyone who has a 501c3 exemption so, it's babylon (confusion) actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With no separation of church and state, should we not at least make the new Americans take a vow of allegiance to the American way and laws prior to accepting them in ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65492692 Dearborn comes to mind as to what not to let happen. This wont end well if we don't all play by the same rules. america was founded on freedom of conscience for all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With no separation of church and state, should we not at least make the new Americans take a vow of allegiance to the American way and laws prior to accepting them in ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65492692 Dearborn comes to mind as to what not to let happen. This wont end well if we don't all play by the same rules. What is the "American way"? sounds exactly like the "British values", which IS the Trojan horse, Do you behead people because they speak badly about your religious leaders who are dead, does badmouthing a dead pope or queen or king equate to a need to behead you ? that is what i mean about the American way, free speech and such... free speech was not given for slander it was given to enable truth to rise above the swamp of lies |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56144605 the state religion is anyone who has a 501c3 exemption so, it's babylon (confusion) actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Governments are established to organize society around accepted rules..which stem from ethics..which stem from morals...which inherently stems from religious perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25339867 So op = true. but, voting allows the most healthy or popular beliefs to predominate unless the population becomes unhealthy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65989994 United States 03/05/2015 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65989994 The state religion, is belief in autority, from the fictional system called government. You cannot seperate religious belief from statism, since it's required for it's sustainability. actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56144605 actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them God uses govts which are just and he never wanted the church to be involved in secular govts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/05/2015 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no such thing as "separation of church and state". Its not possible. Politics and political beliefs are just the manifestation of one's faith and beliefs carried out in daily life. Every action each of us take is a manifestation of our belief system, which includes whatever religious beliefs we hold. The premise that the two can be "separated" is absurd. They are one and the same. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68399693 when a 501c3 church binds itself to the state they displace Jesus as head of the Church |
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Red Buttons User ID: 68477989 Costa Rica 03/05/2015 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65989994 The state religion, is belief in autority, from the fictional system called government. You cannot seperate religious belief from statism, since it's required for it's sustainability. actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them You have been drinking the KoolAid. Why do we submit to government? Because our parents did. Because our neighbors cower at their increasing power. God established His Authority. It is because you have been listening to Zionist trained pastors who tell you that the Power of the State is legitimate... it is not. Who would Jesus bomb? Your vote puts the blood of innocents upon your hands and conscience. Daniel did not obey, Christ did not obey Pilate who was illegitimate authority, because he did NOT answer Him... but when charged by the High Priest, he answered directly. You do not, and really no one I know understands True Authority. When sick do you go to the State for your Obamacare? Then that is the god in whom you place your trust. The legitimate Kingdom is around us and in our midst, but the churches kicked Him out a long time ago. Just try to stand up for the Truth in a Church.... They are subservient to their Jew Masters... as it was in the beginning, so shall it ever be... Until the collective turns it's gaze upon Him who is the ONLY Legitimate King. Maranatha! Nil Carborundum Illegitimus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65989994 United States 03/06/2015 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65989994 NO governments don't get any authority from God, God never authorized governments. The people who do buisiness under the titles of government, get their authority, from the people who hire them to these managerial possitions. These are fellow citizens, with the same authority and rights over their nieghbors, as everyother person has, which is NONE!!!. govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them God uses govts which are just and he never wanted the church to be involved in secular govts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/06/2015 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56144605 actualy, the state gets it's authority from God without God they become a tyranny (like the antichrist will rule) govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them You have been drinking the KoolAid. Why do we submit to government? Because our parents did. Because our neighbors cower at their increasing power. God established His Authority. It is because you have been listening to Zionist trained pastors who tell you that the Power of the State is legitimate... it is not. Who would Jesus bomb? Your vote puts the blood of innocents upon your hands and conscience. Daniel did not obey, Christ did not obey Pilate who was illegitimate authority, because he did NOT answer Him... but when charged by the High Priest, he answered directly. You do not, and really no one I know understands True Authority. When sick do you go to the State for your Obamacare? Then that is the god in whom you place your trust. The legitimate Kingdom is around us and in our midst, but the churches kicked Him out a long time ago. Just try to stand up for the Truth in a Church.... They are subservient to their Jew Masters... as it was in the beginning, so shall it ever be... Until the collective turns it's gaze upon Him who is the ONLY Legitimate King. Maranatha! Nil Carborundum Illegitimus Jesus was not an anarchist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 03/06/2015 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56144605 govt.was given by God to protect the innocent and to punish those who harm them God uses govts which are just and he never wanted the church to be involved in secular govts secular govts. can be just |
Post (OP) User ID: 65492692 United States 03/06/2015 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My ancestors fought long for this separation..that no longer exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4759674 Did it ever in truth or was it simply obscured to you ? Revelation ? why did so many different people groups move to the USA? for freedom of conscience So when your freedoms acted upon, violate my conscience then what. ? |