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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44881304 United States 03/07/2015 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this more than any single thing should show the idiocy of the vegan mission. Quoting: beeches The UN has never, and will never, done anything to promote strength and health in human beings. You got it. The NWO HATES it when we eat meat, HATES it. They know that a vegan diet will keep the population nice and weak and placcid and flaccid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 998378 Canada 03/07/2015 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yes, you will need to take a B-12 supplement and some people need a vegan or fish based supplement for DHA, otherwise a whole-foods vegan diet with beans, nuts, veggies and fruit can meet all needs including (especially) calcium. Maybe they'll still let us cheat with sardines every now and then, that's where I get my DHA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67389541 Thanks for giving your slave opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23319993 Canada 03/07/2015 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the only way we're going to survive living as a species. Thank you Green Revolution and industrialized agriculture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68482747 Actually free roaming, not grain/soy feed bison/buffalo/cows are better at converting protein then agriculture and they reinvigorate the soil. You apparently only read the same delusional books all the rest of the food whackos do. Try a few permaculture manuals, some bio-dynamic agriculture books etc. to see where the cutting edge moves around (edges always drift). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67777346 Germany 03/07/2015 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, all those westerners boo-hooing that they can't live without their cheeseburgers would add 20 or so healthy active years to their lives if they were forced to go vegan..the science on all or mostly vegan diets and life extension is rock solid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67389541 Possibly, but meat provides proteins that are important to the development of the brain. Vegan kids grow up to be stupid adults. Fucking nonsense, my child grows up vegetarian and her IQ is above average, so stop shilling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50701634 United States 03/07/2015 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided to experiment by adding eggs back to my diet. I am going from Vegan to Vegetarian. I was a former meat eater most of my life. I started questioning all today after seeing this post. Really...when the UN suggests doing something you may want to look the opposite direction. Now banning GMOS..would be a start. |
Em18966 User ID: 66273340 United States 03/07/2015 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm pretty sure Leonardo da Vinci was a vegetarian. Likely not a vegan, but he had a lot to say about eating animals. Most famously: "“My body will not be a tomb for other creatures.”" Leonardo da Vinci [link to www.goodreads.com] To him, it was a moral and ethical issue. He lived to a ripe old age of 67 years (at a time when most did not) and arguably had one of the best minds in recorded history. (He was also known to be into a bit of buggery, and there are credible rumors that the Mona Lisa is but himself in drag, so most of you probably discount his contributions to humanity, his life's work and the incredible nature of his mind on sheer 'principle' alone.) Last Edited by Don@ld Trump on 03/07/2015 09:15 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 03/07/2015 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched a child cry as his vegan parents told him he could not have cheese on his soy burger!!!!! Quoting: Astral Goat why coulnd't he have soy cheese? Because he didn't like soy cheese!!! Who does really?! It is awful And soy is has phyto estrogens. Female hormones. Parents who feed their kids this stuff on purpose should not have kids. It is child abuse. Women in menopause will eat soy because of the female hormones. And many women who have cancer have to stay away from soy. And people feed this to kids? Especially boys? They are feminizing them. I hope this kid gets normal friends and gets good food at their houses. |
Em18966 User ID: 66273340 United States 03/07/2015 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched a child cry as his vegan parents told him he could not have cheese on his soy burger!!!!! Quoting: Astral Goat why coulnd't he have soy cheese? Because he didn't like soy cheese!!! Who does really?! It is awful And soy is has phyto estrogens. Female hormones. Parents who feed their kids this stuff on purpose should not have kids. It is child abuse. Women in menopause will eat soy because of the female hormones. And many women who have cancer have to stay away from soy. And people feed this to kids? Especially boys? They are feminizing them. I hope this kid gets normal friends and gets good food at their houses. Yeah, because the shit they inject into and treat most meat with in the US food supply is so much better. |
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southernlady28 User ID: 33132012 United States 03/07/2015 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, all those westerners boo-hooing that they can't live without their cheeseburgers would add 20 or so healthy active years to their lives if they were forced to go vegan..the science on all or mostly vegan diets and life extension is rock solid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67389541 Possibly, but meat provides proteins that are important to the development of the brain. Vegan kids grow up to be stupid adults. Do your research and then come back. Start with the adequacy of protein in vegan diets (most get too much) and then the health outcomes of vegan kids. No, you can't use a single anecdote, actually look at peer-reviewed scientific research. Then come back and we'll talk like smart people. Vegantard Child? [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] Since human health relies on a diet that includes animal-derived nutrients, a debate on the ethics of eating animals should be confined to questions of quantity and quality. How much meat and fish do we need to eat? What is the optimal quality of what we eat? What quality of life is granted to the animals on which our diets depend? As a physician, it seems clear to me that there are considerable health benefits to eating animals. Current epidemiological data support the need for animal-derived nutrients to provide optimal brain health, in particular. For example, B12 and long-chain omega-3 fatty acids essential for the development of a healthy brain are concentrated only in animal products. Excluding animal products from your diet, on the other hand, carries significant risk. A recent survey of 689 men found 52 percent of the 122 vegans were vitamin B12 deficient, which leads to fatigue, depression, decreased cognition, and irreversible nerve damage. As we age, low B12 levels are associated with shrinkage in brain regions related to memory and moods. Humans are omnivores, are we not? As an anthropolist, I know through the skeleton remains found of early humans that the advances that brought us to where we are today are: bipedal movement, tool/weapons making, and the ability to hunt real sources of protein/meat. If you could see how frail the herbivore hominids were you wouldn't be pushing this obvious agenda. Our bodies need some vitamins and nutrients that are raw/from the source instead of taking more pills they tell us will provide what we need. There's no substitute for the real thing. And before you jump on my back about other possibilities for the how or why of ominivore/herbivore, please consider that our teeth are such that they can tear/chew meat or plants. I'm sorry but I'm not looking to mess with evolution. This has been a successful trait for a very long time. And no way am I gonna take another health supplement because the Agenda 21 cult tells me it is good. We should likely run in the other direction when they endorse something. |
southernlady28 User ID: 33132012 United States 03/07/2015 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, all those westerners boo-hooing that they can't live without their cheeseburgers would add 20 or so healthy active years to their lives if they were forced to go vegan..the science on all or mostly vegan diets and life extension is rock solid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67389541 Possibly, but meat provides proteins that are important to the development of the brain. Vegan kids grow up to be stupid adults. Do your research and then come back. Start with the adequacy of protein in vegan diets (most get too much) and then the health outcomes of vegan kids. No, you can't use a single anecdote, actually look at peer-reviewed scientific research. Then come back and we'll talk like smart people. Vegantard Child? [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] Since human health relies on a diet that includes animal-derived nutrients, a debate on the ethics of eating animals should be confined to questions of quantity and quality. How much meat and fish do we need to eat? What is the optimal quality of what we eat? What quality of life is granted to the animals on which our diets depend? As a physician, it seems clear to me that there are considerable health benefits to eating animals. Current epidemiological data support the need for animal-derived nutrients to provide optimal brain health, in particular. For example, B12 and long-chain omega-3 fatty acids essential for the development of a healthy brain are concentrated only in animal products. Excluding animal products from your diet, on the other hand, carries significant risk. A recent survey of 689 men found 52 percent of the 122 vegans were vitamin B12 deficient, which leads to fatigue, depression, decreased cognition, and irreversible nerve damage. As we age, low B12 levels are associated with shrinkage in brain regions related to memory and moods. Humans are omnivores, are we not? As an anthropologist, I know through the skeleton remains found of early humans that the advances that brought us to where we are today are: bipedal movement, tool/weapons making, and the ability to hunt real sources of protein/meat. If you could see how frail the herbivore hominids were you wouldn't be pushing this obvious agenda. Our bodies need some vitamins and nutrients that are raw/from the source instead of taking more pills they tell us will provide what we need. There's no substitute for the real thing. And before you jump on my back about other possibilities for the how or why of ominivore/herbivore, please consider that our teeth are such that they can tear/chew meat or plants. I'm sorry but I'm not looking to mess with evolution. This has been a successful trait for a very long time. And no way am I gonna take another health supplement because the Agenda 21 cult tells me it is good. We should likely run in the other direction when they endorse something. _-------- Fixed spelling error |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45026812 United Kingdom 03/07/2015 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Boss Moss Possibly, but meat provides proteins that are important to the development of the brain. Vegan kids grow up to be stupid adults. Do your research and then come back. Start with the adequacy of protein in vegan diets (most get too much) and then the health outcomes of vegan kids. No, you can't use a single anecdote, actually look at peer-reviewed scientific research. Then come back and we'll talk like smart people. Vegantard Child? [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] Since human health relies on a diet that includes animal-derived nutrients, a debate on the ethics of eating animals should be confined to questions of quantity and quality. How much meat and fish do we need to eat? What is the optimal quality of what we eat? What quality of life is granted to the animals on which our diets depend? As a physician, it seems clear to me that there are considerable health benefits to eating animals. Current epidemiological data support the need for animal-derived nutrients to provide optimal brain health, in particular. For example, B12 and long-chain omega-3 fatty acids essential for the development of a healthy brain are concentrated only in animal products. Excluding animal products from your diet, on the other hand, carries significant risk. A recent survey of 689 men found 52 percent of the 122 vegans were vitamin B12 deficient, which leads to fatigue, depression, decreased cognition, and irreversible nerve damage. As we age, low B12 levels are associated with shrinkage in brain regions related to memory and moods. Humans are omnivores, are we not? As an anthropologist, I know through the skeleton remains found of early humans that the advances that brought us to where we are today are: bipedal movement, tool/weapons making, and the ability to hunt real sources of protein/meat. If you could see how frail the herbivore hominids were you wouldn't be pushing this obvious agenda. Our bodies need some vitamins and nutrients that are raw/from the source instead of taking more pills they tell us will provide what we need. There's no substitute for the real thing. And before you jump on my back about other possibilities for the how or why of ominivore/herbivore, please consider that our teeth are such that they can tear/chew meat or plants. I'm sorry but I'm not looking to mess with evolution. This has been a successful trait for a very long time. And no way am I gonna take another health supplement because the Agenda 21 cult tells me it is good. We should likely run in the other direction when they endorse something. _-------- Fixed spelling error we are not ominvours, a bear is an omnivour. Humans are frugivours with the odd insect thrown in |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62839974 United States 03/07/2015 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched a child cry as his vegan parents told him he could not have cheese on his soy burger!!!!! Quoting: Astral Goat why coulnd't he have soy cheese? Because he didn't like soy cheese!!! Who does really?! It is awful And soy is has phyto estrogens. Female hormones. Parents who feed their kids this stuff on purpose should not have kids. It is child abuse. Women in menopause will eat soy because of the female hormones. And many women who have cancer have to stay away from soy. And people feed this to kids? Especially boys? They are feminizing them. I hope this kid gets normal friends and gets good food at their houses. Don't you know, meat has its own array on hormones. Even the hormone free meat contains the hormones that was once present in the animal. If you are so worried about the hormones 85 % of GMO soy is fed to the livestock and it does not just disappear. It is silly to say soy is bad because hormones then to turn around and eat a burger chopped full of synthetic and natural occurring hormones. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25132087 United States 03/07/2015 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, eat Monsanto, only Monsanto. It's healthy and full of vitamins. And then, rely on your pharmacies for supplements like B12, calcium and Magnesium to survive the vegan diets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58667816 If humans can live off only vegetables, why don't those vegans try to live without their supplements and protein shakes. Oh right, they will suffer from bone loss, liver failure, brain damage and tooth decay. Even deers snack on birds sometimes, why shouldn't we... Obviously you don't live in the USofA corp. Over here that is the diet and try to find anyone but very small children without tooth decay (mouth full of murcury fillings)and more 3/4 of the population extremely unhealthy....full of cancer, brittle bones etc...so what you are saying is total BS pal! 2 of my adult children....No cavities and all their teeth. None ofmy children ever broke a bone(neither have I) despite very active and adventurous lifestyles. |
SilverKwest User ID: 67146187 United States 03/07/2015 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Artichokes. The other white meat. Quoting: Boss Moss [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com] Can a vegan diet save the world? According to a new report from the UN, the answer is “yes.” The Guardian writes that “a global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger, fuel poverty, and the worst impacts of climate change.” The report notes that the Western preference for meat- and dairy-heavy diets is “unsustainable,” especially as the population is expected to grow to 9.1 billion by 2050. The report adds that “animal products cause more damage than [producing] construction minerals such as sand or cement, plastics or metals.” Plus, livestock raised for meat consumes a large portion of the world’s crops and a lot of freshwater. Currently, agriculture, “particularly meat and dairy products,” account for 70 percent of the world’s freshwater consumption. It also accounts for 39 percent of the globe’s total land use and 19 percent of its greenhouse gas emissions. Importantly, as the population grows, the impact from agriculture will substantially grow as well, thanks to the the increasing consumption of animal products. The report notes that “unlike fossil fuels, it is difficult to look for alternatives.” The only option is to cut down on the number of animal products consumed. The UN pusses are too afraid to tell the truth....that vegetarianism and veganism is vital to causing irreversible brain damage stemming from a lack of B12. Last Edited by SilverKwest on 03/07/2015 11:30 PM Threads: Thread: SCOTUS allows ban on U.S. flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo Thread: Petition Opposing Loretta Lynch for Attorney General [PLEASE SIGN] Thread: Johnson & Johnson Pleads Guilty to Selling Contaminated Infant's Medicines Thread: The 'Terrible 10' Thread: Dearman (UK) -- Who Did It? Thread: History and the Politics of Education **The Intentional Dumbing Down of America Exposed** Thread: The Billionaires Boys Club's Hands in Our Schools -- REAL Doom! Thread: Is THIS what's wrong with Detroit? Thread: Mass Die-Offs: Past & Present “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C.S. Lewis ---------------------------- A starving artist with uncorrected astigmatism and presbyopia, plus 5% (green) color blindness, trying to make a living off of making graphics using a computer not up to the task -- what could go wrong? |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 39491380 United States 03/08/2015 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The UN the creators of Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, climate change and pimping Cap and Trade as their cash cow and to the point of attempting to ban any opposition to its Global tax BS. The UN primarily funded by foolish America does not have anyone’s interests other than their power grab at heart so why listen to these barbarians. Do some research into nutrition and health issues of vegan diet and then wheigh the merits of the UN’s stupidity. Facing Failing Health As A Vegan [link to bonzaiaphrodite.com] Vegan Health Problems And How To Avoid Them [link to www.symptomfind.com] THE DEADLY DANGERS OF VEGANISM [link to naturalhygienesociety.org] The United Nations Bans Opposition to Its Global Tax Design Meeting [link to www.eagleforum.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67038565 Panama 03/08/2015 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no such thing as a one-size-fits-all diet. Different people have different needs. The saying "one man's food is another man's poison" is absolutely true. Some people thrive on a vegetarian diet. Others do not. I've found that I personally do best on a pescetarian diet. I eat primarily veggies, greens, and sprouts (raw, steamed, stir fried, or juiced) then moderate amounts of fruits, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, and olive oil, and sparse amounts of whole grains. As for animal products, I drink plain kefir every day, consume a few eggs a week, and eat sardines with the bones canned in olive oil two or three times a week. I've been doing very well eating this way. After years of experimenting with various diets, this is what works best for me. I tried going vegan, and it did not work out at all. For the first 3 months on the vegan diet, I felt great and thought I'd finally found what I'd been looking for, but then after a while my health began to slowly decline. It wasn't for lack of appropriate meal planning; I had done my homework. It just wasn't right for my particular body type. I gave the vegan diet two years, then I switched over to an ovo-lacto vegetarian diet and did much better, but it still wasn't quite enough. Adding some oily fish is what it finally took to find the perfect diet for me. I've always been an eat to live, not live to eat kind of person, and I've got no interest in eating unhealthy crap. I also love my veggies, which is why I thought vegetarianism would be perfect for me, but it wasn't. No biggie. I still eat a ton of veggies. I just also consume some fish and dairy as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64595098 United States 03/08/2015 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Artichokes. The other white meat. Quoting: Boss Moss [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com] Can a vegan diet save the world? According to a new report from the UN, the answer is “yes.” The Guardian writes that “a global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger, fuel poverty, and the worst impacts of climate change.” The report notes that the Western preference for meat- and dairy-heavy diets is “unsustainable,” especially as the population is expected to grow to 9.1 billion by 2050. The report adds that “animal products cause more damage than [producing] construction minerals such as sand or cement, plastics or metals.” Plus, livestock raised for meat consumes a large portion of the world’s crops and a lot of freshwater. Currently, agriculture, “particularly meat and dairy products,” account for 70 percent of the world’s freshwater consumption. It also accounts for 39 percent of the globe’s total land use and 19 percent of its greenhouse gas emissions. Importantly, as the population grows, the impact from agriculture will substantially grow as well, thanks to the the increasing consumption of animal products. The report notes that “unlike fossil fuels, it is difficult to look for alternatives.” The only option is to cut down on the number of animal products consumed. |
1414 User ID: 50039504 Cyprus 03/08/2015 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fruit and veggies of today taste like SHIT because they keep breeding the most resilient and profitable strains over and over again because money. Never mind the fact that propagating only 1 species is a suicide attempt since a pest or virus that mutates (or engineered) to feed on them will wipe out all crops leaving us with nothing to eat. Start saving those random seeds! Both humans and animals have dependancies on plants but not the other way around, (other than using us for sex, and that is handled mostly by the insects) if we destroy the balance of plant life in order to satisfy the massive demand then all animals will suffer consequences. So yeah i'd argue that it's overall safer for the ecosystem to eat the animal life instead of the plant life. edit: sp Last Edited by 1414 on 03/08/2015 01:41 AM |
khoisansun User ID: 68450785 South Africa 03/08/2015 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when everyone is eating only vegetables, there won't be any because they will be going into bio fuel. I wish Harmony, Love, Truth and Justice for all my brothers and sisters. With the United forces of the silent vibrations of our thoughts, we are strong, healthy and happy thus making a link of universal fraternity.. |
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1414 User ID: 50039504 Cyprus 03/08/2015 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be flexible, versatile and adaptable when it comes to survival. It's the reason our species has overtaken all others. If ensuring our survival is what we are after then we should look for new food groups to sustain ourselves, not less. It's a game of chance, the game is called Fate! |