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1 Corinthians 7:15

 
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But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


If the person is not bound to their spouse when they leave can they then remarry a believer?
 Quoting: natalie


This is a very difficult question to answer, not because the scriptures aren't clear but because so many people in our generation are living in the sin of adultery due to an unlawful remarriage.

You referenced 1 Cor. 7:15 in your OP but maybe you should take a second look at verse 10 in the same chapter.

"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."

Paraphrasing the commandments of Jesus himself, Paul teaches us that there are only two options for a divorced believer regardless of the reason for divorce or who files for divorce. Remain unmarried or be reconciled.
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That is to the church..meaning two believers
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So in romans 7 2:3
2For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.…

And in 1 Corinthians 7:15
15Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.


He says the person is not bound... He must mean to the marriage covenant so both are free to remarry
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Definition Of Words

The definition of the words used in 1 Corinthians 7:15 preclude a remarriage to a new mate explanation of “not under bondage.” The word translated “bondage” is dedoulootai, “perfect passive indicative of |douloo|, to enslave, has been enslaved, does not remain a slave.” (Robertson's NT Word Pictures) Thayer is representative of lexical definitions when he observes that douloo means “1) to make a slave of, reduce to bondage 2) metaph. give myself wholly to one's needs and service, make myself a bondman to him.” “Bondage” thus denotes one who sustains a permanent servile relation to another. In this context (1 Cor. 7:15) the reference is to an unbelieving mate. Paul teaches that the Christian does NOT sustain a permanent servile relation to a mate in marriage (or for that matter, in any other relation). Remember, “we must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

Every other use of douloo in the NT carries with it the meaning of enslavement (Titus 2:3, “enslaved” - ASV), servitude or bondage (Acts 7:6). Never is it used to denote the “bound by law” concept of marriage to which deo is applied by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 7:27, 39; Rom. 7:2; cf. Matt. 19:5-6). Here is the entire list of NT passages which use douloo so that the accuracy of the above statement may be reviewed: Acts 7:6; Rom. 6:18, 22; 1 Cor. 7:15, 9:19; Gal. 4:3; Titus 2:3; 2 Pet. 2:19.

Grammar

The simple statement of fact in 1 Corinthians 7:15 is that the Christian has never been reduced to a servile position to the unbeliever. The grammar so indicates (dedoulootai - perfect passive indicative of douloo):

Perfect tense: “The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.”

Passive voice: “The passive voice represents the subject as being the recipient of the action.”

Indicative mood: “The indicative mood is a simple statement of fact. If an action really occurs or has occurred or will occur, it will be rendered in the indicative mood.” (Online Bible)

Since the negative (ou) is employed, the phrase “not under bondage” effectively means that bondage was NOT completed in the past and is NOT occurring at the present time. Thus, the “you are not now, nor have you ever been under bondage” interpretation is entirely consistent with the grammar of the phrase and not a forced interpretation of it. In 1 Corinthians 7:15, that which was completed in the past and continues to be the case in the present is that Christians are “called” (perfect tense) to peace. The one has never been true while the other has always been true.
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What does he mean when he says not bound? Just that. Not bound to the law of marriage
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So in romans 7 2:3
2For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.…

And in 1 Corinthians 7:15
15Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.


He says the person is not bound... He must mean to the marriage covenant so both are free to remarry
 Quoting: natalie


He can't mean the marriage covenant since he would be contradicting himself in v. 10 when he says that if you're a believer and find yourself divorced, you cannot remarry.

By using the word "bondage" in v. 15, Paul is most likely referring to his earlier statement in vs. 3&4:

"The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife."

He's saying that even though you are still lawfully married in God's sight to the spouse that is divorcing you, you aren't expected to fulfill any marital obligations. You are free to separate from them and live alone.
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What does he mean when he says not bound? Just that. Not bound to the law of marriage
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What does he mean when he says not bound? Just that. Not bound to the law of marriage
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So if not bound that means free...
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So in romans 7 2:3
2For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.…

And in 1 Corinthians 7:15
15Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.


He says the person is not bound... He must mean to the marriage covenant so both are free to remarry
 Quoting: natalie


He can't mean the marriage covenant since he would be contradicting himself in v. 10 when he says that if you're a believer and find yourself divorced, you cannot remarry.

By using the word "bondage" in v. 15, Paul is most likely referring to his earlier statement in vs. 3&4:

"The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife."

He's saying that even though you are still lawfully married in God's sight to the spouse that is divorcing you, you aren't expected to fulfill any marital obligations. You are free to separate from them and live alone.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


No in verse 10 he is talking to the church...so 2 believers! He then says to the rest...
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Especially if someone becomes a christian while married to an unbeliever... They were married as unbelievers
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So in romans 7 2:3
2For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.…

And in 1 Corinthians 7:15
15Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.


He says the person is not bound... He must mean to the marriage covenant so both are free to remarry
 Quoting: natalie


He can't mean the marriage covenant since he would be contradicting himself in v. 10 when he says that if you're a believer and find yourself divorced, you cannot remarry.

By using the word "bondage" in v. 15, Paul is most likely referring to his earlier statement in vs. 3&4:

"The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife."

He's saying that even though you are still lawfully married in God's sight to the spouse that is divorcing you, you aren't expected to fulfill any marital obligations. You are free to separate from them and live alone.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


No in verse 10 he is talking to the church...so 2 believers! He then says to the rest...
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Verse 10 is talking to the church!!!!! Meaning two believers. Believers should Not divorce
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Wait on the Lord: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the Lord.
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But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


If the person is not bound to their spouse when they leave can they then remarry a believer?
 Quoting: natalie


This is a very difficult question to answer, not because the scriptures aren't clear but because so many people in our generation are living in the sin of adultery due to an unlawful remarriage.

You referenced 1 Cor. 7:15 in your OP but maybe you should take a second look at verse 10 in the same chapter.

"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."

Paraphrasing the commandments of Jesus himself, Paul teaches us that there are only two options for a divorced believer regardless of the reason for divorce or who files for divorce. Remain unmarried or be reconciled.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


That is to the church..meaning two believers
 Quoting: natalie


Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
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How can verse 10 apply to an unequally yoked relationship? It can't! Because you cannot bring a command from the Lord to an unbeliever
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Being married to a reprobate is way worse than sex on the side!
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Sex on the Side ?
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Jesus said divorce is permitted in the case of adultery! So I'm using what Jesus said and what Paul said and pointing out that being unequally yoked is way worse than a husband cheating on his wife.. Because if that unbeliever is unredeemable they will do more damage than just cheating! Paul said basically try to save them but if they want to leave or get in the way of your relationship with God with ultimatums, the believer is supposed to chooses Gpd so the unbeliever would eventually leave. The person is not bound and is free to remarry in the Lord
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i think its important to separate the issue of divorce and remarrying

its okay to divorce or be divorced on some grounds
but remarrying has stricter rules

like for me, as a widow, i do not feel permitted to remarry
so its a life of chaste for me from this point on.
its been 4 yrs. this is hard to do!
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Your husband is dead therefore you are no longer bound to him and can remarry. Don't listen to the modern day pharisee clueless heretics.
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From my understanding, the marriage vow before God is void only under 2 circumstances.

1. One of the people die
2. One of the people has sex with another person

Under those 2 circumstances only, the marriage vow is broken and the other is free to remarry without sin.
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But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


If the person is not bound to their spouse when they leave can they then remarry a believer?
 Quoting: natalie


This is a very difficult question to answer, not because the scriptures aren't clear but because so many people in our generation are living in the sin of adultery due to an unlawful remarriage.

You referenced 1 Cor. 7:15 in your OP but maybe you should take a second look at verse 10 in the same chapter.

"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."

Paraphrasing the commandments of Jesus himself, Paul teaches us that there are only two options for a divorced believer regardless of the reason for divorce or who files for divorce. Remain unmarried or be reconciled.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


That is to the church..meaning two believers
 Quoting: natalie


Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
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How can verse 10 apply to an unequally yoked relationship? It can't! Because you cannot bring a command from the Lord to an unbeliever
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To The Married: 1 Corinthians 7:10-11

Paul now speaks to the married Christians, and applies the words of Jesus (where He had already made a general application, Matthew 19:5-6). The fact that an application is here made to one specific group of married people (namely, Christians) does not limit Matthew 19 to only Christians (as some brethren say) anymore than Paul application of Matthew 26:26-28 in 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 limits who can partake of the Lord's Supper to only Corinthian Christians (1 Cor. 11:20). Yet, some brethren are teaching that either (1) Matthew 19 applies only to Christians, or (2) Matthew 19 applies only to Jews (an explanation of OT law). Why do we reject both of these conclusions as false? Because God has revealed His truth about the universal nature of marriage (Gen. 2:23-24; Heb. 13:4). We can understand, and God expects us to understand, that marriage is for all mankind and is regulated by His revelation concerning it.

Anyone who enters the relationship of marriage comes under the divine regulation of it (Gen. 2:24; Matt. 19:4-6, 9; Heb. 13:4).
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This is a very difficult question to answer, not because the scriptures aren't clear but because so many people in our generation are living in the sin of adultery due to an unlawful remarriage.

You referenced 1 Cor. 7:15 in your OP but maybe you should take a second look at verse 10 in the same chapter.

"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."

Paraphrasing the commandments of Jesus himself, Paul teaches us that there are only two options for a divorced believer regardless of the reason for divorce or who files for divorce. Remain unmarried or be reconciled.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


That is to the church..meaning two believers
 Quoting: natalie


Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
 Quoting: natalie


To “the rest” Paul (as an inspired apostle whom the Lord counted trustworthy and who had the Spirit of God, v. 25, 40) applies Matthew 19:6, 9 and explains that marriage between a Christian and an unbeliever is indeed a legitimate marriage. At no time in this passage does the inspired apostle urge the Christian who is married to an unbeliever to depart (divorce) because his or her mate is an unbeliever. Indeed, the Lord's will is that they remain together as Matthew 19:5-6 instructs.

So, if the unbeliever is content or willing to live with a Christian, the Christian is commanded not to depart, for the Christian brings a sanctifying influence and life into the home (v. 14; cf. 1 Pet. 3:1-2).

However, if the unbeliever departs (we necessarily infer that under such a condition the unbeliever is not content to dwell with the Christian), the Christian is “not under bondage” to the unbeliever (the Christian is to let the unbeliever depart). Can we know with confidence what “not under bondage” means? Yes we can, by applying the same type of hermeneutics we apply to other Bible passages (including those already mentioned in this study).

These principles include, for instance:
1) The meaning given the passage will not contradict other passages of scripture (Jno. 17:17).
2) All God says on the subject must be consulted (Psa. 119:160).
3) The context (both immediate and general) must be observed and harmonized.
4) The proper definition of terms is vital in coming to a correct understanding of the text. (We cannot assume definitions - we must verify their legitimate meaning and usage in scripture).
5) The grammar used by the Holy Spirit must be considered and respected (cf. Matt. 22:31-32).

Now, when we correctly apply these principles of interpretation to 1 Corinthians 7:15, it will not be men's scholarship on the passage or men's division over the passage which determines our understanding and our application of it. It will be because we have “rightly divided” the word of truth and come to “understand what the will of the Lord is” (2 Tim. 2:15; Eph. 3:3-4; 5:17).
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This is a very difficult question to answer, not because the scriptures aren't clear but because so many people in our generation are living in the sin of adultery due to an unlawful remarriage.

You referenced 1 Cor. 7:15 in your OP but maybe you should take a second look at verse 10 in the same chapter.

"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."

Paraphrasing the commandments of Jesus himself, Paul teaches us that there are only two options for a divorced believer regardless of the reason for divorce or who files for divorce. Remain unmarried or be reconciled.
 Quoting: DeputyDog


That is to the church..meaning two believers
 Quoting: natalie


Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
 Quoting: natalie

Obviously he would mean being bound in the covenant of marriage to an unbeliever..if you're not bound to the law of marriage, then how can it be adultery?
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That is to the church..meaning two believers
 Quoting: natalie


Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
 Quoting: natalie


To “the rest” Paul (as an inspired apostle whom the Lord counted trustworthy and who had the Spirit of God, v. 25, 40) applies Matthew 19:6, 9 and explains that marriage between a Christian and an unbeliever is indeed a legitimate marriage. At no time in this passage does the inspired apostle urge the Christian who is married to an unbeliever to depart (divorce) because his or her mate is an unbeliever. Indeed, the Lord's will is that they remain together as Matthew 19:5-6 instructs.

So, if the unbeliever is content or willing to live with a Christian, the Christian is commanded not to depart, for the Christian brings a sanctifying influence and life into the home (v. 14; cf. 1 Pet. 3:1-2).

However, if the unbeliever departs (we necessarily infer that under such a condition the unbeliever is not content to dwell with the Christian), the Christian is “not under bondage” to the unbeliever (the Christian is to let the unbeliever depart). Can we know with confidence what “not under bondage” means? Yes we can, by applying the same type of hermeneutics we apply to other Bible passages (including those already mentioned in this study).

These principles include, for instance:
1) The meaning given the passage will not contradict other passages of scripture (Jno. 17:17).
2) All God says on the subject must be consulted (Psa. 119:160).
3) The context (both immediate and general) must be observed and harmonized.
4) The proper definition of terms is vital in coming to a correct understanding of the text. (We cannot assume definitions - we must verify their legitimate meaning and usage in scripture).
5) The grammar used by the Holy Spirit must be considered and respected (cf. Matt. 22:31-32).

Now, when we correctly apply these principles of interpretation to 1 Corinthians 7:15, it will not be men's scholarship on the passage or men's division over the passage which determines our understanding and our application of it. It will be because we have “rightly divided” the word of truth and come to “understand what the will of the Lord is” (2 Tim. 2:15; Eph. 3:3-4; 5:17).
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So what of remarriage?
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That is to the church..meaning two believers
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Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
 Quoting: natalie

Obviously he would mean being bound in the covenant of marriage to an unbeliever..if you're not bound to the law of marriage, then how can it be adultery?
 Quoting: natalie


The immediate context of 1 Corinthians 7:15 is that of legitimate marriage, one of several non-sinful conditions in which one might be when called by God through the gospel to become a Christian. Other non-sinful conditions used by Paul to illustrate his point are circumcision and slavery (1 Cor. 7:18-24). We know he only refers to non-sinful conditions here because they are conditions in which one may continue to walk (after becoming a Christian), remaining in fellowship with God and keeping the commandments of God (1 Cor. 7:17, 19, 20, 24). One cannot continue to live in sin after his conversion with God’s blessing (Rom. 6:1-4).
Paul's point is this: “You were bought with a price; do not become slaves (doulos) of men” (1 Cor. 7:23). Verse 15 is a specific application of this principle. We are confident the slavery of 7:23 means something other than physical slavery (for Paul had just said to remain in that form of slavery, 7:21-22). Verse 23 speaks of the bondage of enslavement. Even the slave who served an earthly master had a prior allegiance to Christ. Likewise in marriage, we are not enslaved to men, we are slaves of Christ (1 Cor. 7:15, 22).

So, having told the Christian who is married to an unbeliever to remain in that marriage because it is legitimate, he then counsels the Christian whose unbelieving mate departs because the Christian has a primary allegiance to Christ. Paul’s counsel is: Let him go, because you are not enslaved to the unbeliever -- you are enslaved to Christ (7:23). 1 Corinthians 7:15 teaches Christians who are married to unbelievers that their first allegiance is always to Christ and not man.

If Christians continue to make allowance for and have fellowship with brethren who teach or practice what is not taught in 1 Corinthians 7:15, we can only conclude that either (1) they do not believe the preceding hermeneutical treatment of the passage is correct, (2) they hold to another hermeneutical treatment which they accept as correct (and believe the foregoing to be faulty), or (3) that such a treatment of the text cannot be correctly accomplished. Whatever the case, I fear that more and more brethren are adopting a view of 1 Corinthians 7:15 which implies that revealed truth cannot be correctly understood and obeyed. We must continue to deny that proposition whenever it shows itself (Jno. 8:31-32; Eph. 3:3-4; 5:17; 2 Tim. 2:15; 2 Pet. 1:3-4; 3:16-18; Jude 3-4).
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Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
 Quoting: DeputyDog

Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
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To “the rest” Paul (as an inspired apostle whom the Lord counted trustworthy and who had the Spirit of God, v. 25, 40) applies Matthew 19:6, 9 and explains that marriage between a Christian and an unbeliever is indeed a legitimate marriage. At no time in this passage does the inspired apostle urge the Christian who is married to an unbeliever to depart (divorce) because his or her mate is an unbeliever. Indeed, the Lord's will is that they remain together as Matthew 19:5-6 instructs.

So, if the unbeliever is content or willing to live with a Christian, the Christian is commanded not to depart, for the Christian brings a sanctifying influence and life into the home (v. 14; cf. 1 Pet. 3:1-2).

However, if the unbeliever departs (we necessarily infer that under such a condition the unbeliever is not content to dwell with the Christian), the Christian is “not under bondage” to the unbeliever (the Christian is to let the unbeliever depart). Can we know with confidence what “not under bondage” means? Yes we can, by applying the same type of hermeneutics we apply to other Bible passages (including those already mentioned in this study).

These principles include, for instance:
1) The meaning given the passage will not contradict other passages of scripture (Jno. 17:17).
2) All God says on the subject must be consulted (Psa. 119:160).
3) The context (both immediate and general) must be observed and harmonized.
4) The proper definition of terms is vital in coming to a correct understanding of the text. (We cannot assume definitions - we must verify their legitimate meaning and usage in scripture).
5) The grammar used by the Holy Spirit must be considered and respected (cf. Matt. 22:31-32).

Now, when we correctly apply these principles of interpretation to 1 Corinthians 7:15, it will not be men's scholarship on the passage or men's division over the passage which determines our understanding and our application of it. It will be because we have “rightly divided” the word of truth and come to “understand what the will of the Lord is” (2 Tim. 2:15; Eph. 3:3-4; 5:17).
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So what of remarriage?
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Wait on the Lord: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the Lord.
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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Wait on the Lord...Again, I say, wait on the Lord.
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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Or he must wait til his unbelieving spouse dies? Then it will be permittable? lolsign I'll be back
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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Wait on the Lord...Again, I say, wait on the Lord.
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Agreed.
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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That's exactly what I'm telling you! Anyone that teaches otherwise is leading you into an adulterous relationship!

There are many Pastors in these adulterous relationships, and I can assure you they're not being used for God's glory!

They're being used by the Devil to lead many deceived Christians into the wrath of God!
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So you guys are telling me if a man gets married as an unbeliever to an unbeliever, then becomes a christian, and his unbelieving wife divorces him, he is not allowed to remarry a believer? You honestly think that? God would never bring him a believing wife and use them for His glory?
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Or he must wait til his unbelieving spouse dies? Then it will be permittable? lolsign I'll be back
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Or until the unbelieving spouse REPENTS, reconciles or remarries.


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That is to the church..meaning two believers
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Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
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Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
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Obviously he would mean being bound in the covenant of marriage to an unbeliever..if you're not bound to the law of marriage, then how can it be adultery?
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Every human being who enters into a marriage is bound by God's law of marriage. It doesn't matter if it's a believer/believer, believer/unbeliever or an unbeliever/unbeliever marriage. All humans will be judged by the same laws on the day of judgment.

Here's God's law of marriage, as stated by Paul, "2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." Romans 7:2,3

As I said before, this is an extremely difficult truth to accept because the body of Christ has allowed the doctrines of demons to be taught in the church for several generations now. Nearly every christian denomination on earth since the early church fathers has taught that to marry after a divorce from a covenant spouse is adultery.
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Two problems with that view point:

1) Paul does not make the same distinction you're making. His message is to the "married" and he makes no distinctions concerning whether both spouses are believers or only one of them.

2) The believing spouse in v. 15 obviously falls under the admonition to the believers in v. 10 not to remarry after a divorce. Do you think he is allowing remarriage for some believers but not others?
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Paul is talking to the church. Two believers because he says not I but the Lord, and he gives instructions to BOTH the husband and the wife. You cannot give commands to an unbeliever. He then goes on in verse 12 saying to THE REST I say this...making a distinction from verse 10
 Quoting: natalie

Obviously he would mean being bound in the covenant of marriage to an unbeliever..if you're not bound to the law of marriage, then how can it be adultery?
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Every human being who enters into a marriage is bound by God's law of marriage. It doesn't matter if it's a believer/believer, believer/unbeliever or an unbeliever/unbeliever marriage. All humans will be judged by the same laws on the day of judgment.

Here's God's law of marriage, as stated by Paul, "2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." Romans 7:2,3

As I said before, this is an extremely difficult truth to accept because the body of Christ has allowed the doctrines of demons to be taught in the church for several generations now. Nearly every christian denomination on earth since the early church fathers has taught that to marry after a divorce from a covenant spouse is adultery.
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Many Christians are hoping the Lord didn't mean what He said! That's why we have many Christians on their 2nd, 3rd and even 4th marriages! They're going to find out the hard way that He did!
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So a man is bound to what he did as an unbeliever?





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