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Pre-nuclear strike preparations by Russia...

 
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and nothing happens...

It makes for great reading if you are 10yo
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WW2 didn't happen, either. But then it did. It did in spite of the fact that there was ample warning that it would, and ample means to prevent it. But people like you said it wouldn't happen, and encouraged others to believe it as well.

What's in it for you to mock reality? What do you gain? Do you think your disbelief in what is real is some kind of a defense? It is one thing for you to hold on to your fantastical beliefs, but why state them publicly? Why encourage others to disregard the such important truths? How does it benefit you to not only deceive yourself, but to promote that deception in those that will be called on to defend you?

Until 1945, we lived in a world without Superweapons. Just as soon as they were created, however, they were used in battle. We have been fortunate that almost 70 years has now gone by without their having been used again. This fact is an historical aberration. To believe otherwise is folly. to encourage this belief in your countrymen and allies is suicidal.

Nuclear weapons will be again be used in wartime. Every Russian offensive battle plan against the US includes the use of nuclear weapons in both a first-strike capacity and as a means to take and hold territory.

Perhaps you fail to realize the strength of Russian nuclear forces. Perhaps the following facts will help you to understand what the situation is.


By 1979 the Soviets achieved strategic parity with the US. That means that they matched the US in terms of warheads and delivery systems.

By 1985 the Soviets had a 7-1 numerical advantage in nuclear weapons, and an order of magnitude greater than that when biological and chemical weapons were factored into the equation. Russia has never relinquished strategic superiority; rather, it has increased its advantage decade after decade.

The soviets are known to have produced tens of thousands of tactical nuclear weapons. The US has none.

Russia has proliferated nuclear weapons to China, N. Korea and Iran, among other of its allies.


What do you, as an Australian, believe will be the effect of the nuclear annihilation of the US, should it occur? Do you, as an Australian, believe that your life will go on as before? What, exactly, is in it for you to mock reality?
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The world is a three ring circus and Rothschild is the ring master.

I would ask you to prove your statement about the US tac nukes, but I know that you can't because it is false.
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03/09/2015 04:24 AM
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Russia & NATO are not enemies.
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If by that you mean that Russian security service have thoroughly infiltrated NATO and exercise de facto control over the organization, then you are quite likely correct. If you mean to say that key leaders of virtually every NATO signatory country is an agent of Russia, then you are quite likely correct. However, I don't believe that's what you meant. Thank you for bringing the issue up nevertheless.
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and nothing happens...

It makes for great reading if you are 10yo
 Quoting: fred also


WW2 didn't happen, either. But then it did. It did in spite of the fact that there was ample warning that it would, and ample means to prevent it. But people like you said it wouldn't happen, and encouraged others to believe it as well.

What's in it for you to mock reality? What do you gain? Do you think your disbelief in what is real is some kind of a defense? It is one thing for you to hold on to your fantastical beliefs, but why state them publicly? Why encourage others to disregard the such important truths? How does it benefit you to not only deceive yourself, but to promote that deception in those that will be called on to defend you?

Until 1945, we lived in a world without Superweapons. Just as soon as they were created, however, they were used in battle. We have been fortunate that almost 70 years has now gone by without their having been used again. This fact is an historical aberration. To believe otherwise is folly. to encourage this belief in your countrymen and allies is suicidal.

Nuclear weapons will be again be used in wartime. Every Russian offensive battle plan against the US includes the use of nuclear weapons in both a first-strike capacity and as a means to take and hold territory.

Perhaps you fail to realize the strength of Russian nuclear forces. Perhaps the following facts will help you to understand what the situation is.


By 1979 the Soviets achieved strategic parity with the US. That means that they matched the US in terms of warheads and delivery systems.

By 1985 the Soviets had a 7-1 numerical advantage in nuclear weapons, and an order of magnitude greater than that when biological and chemical weapons were factored into the equation. Russia has never relinquished strategic superiority; rather, it has increased its advantage decade after decade.

The soviets are known to have produced tens of thousands of tactical nuclear weapons. The US has none.

Russia has proliferated nuclear weapons to China, N. Korea and Iran, among other of its allies.


What do you, as an Australian, believe will be the effect of the nuclear annihilation of the US, should it occur? Do you, as an Australian, believe that your life will go on as before? What, exactly, is in it for you to mock reality?
 Quoting: HLS 65977281


The world is a three ring circus and Rothschild is the ring master.

I would ask you to prove your statement about the US tac nukes, but I know that you can't because it is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10690607


Proving a negative cannot be done. If you believe the US has produced and stockpiled tactical nuclear weapons, the onus is on you to prove it. Perhaps you know something the rest of us don't. It would be very good news indeed if you could break such a story!
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The U.S. sociopaths are really pushing the envelope in the Ukraine.

I do believe this situation is not going to end well.
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the democrats found what they think is an effective formula in the 1990's... go on tv news programs and pathologically lie and attack any and everyone exactly like they did to ken starr... or anyone else that opposed the clinton cult.

america is run by a 21st century manson family cult.

it dresses up in drag like neo whatevers but is really just a manson family cult with ivy league degrees. it's media a cult as well, badly in need of de-programming.

they think putin is a dictator. in reality he represents a collective. a collective far larger and far more representative than the teeny tiny clique that runs the us media and political structure.

we are in a heap of shit.
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......................................BOX SCORE NUMBER ONE (1985).......................................


United States.......................................................​.....................................Soviet Union


1,000.......ICBM Launchers (including SS-20s and SS-16s).........................................1,850

Zero.........Heavy ICBM Launchers....................................................​.......................820

2,100.......Ready ICBM Warheads.....................................................​.....................9,300

Zero.........Ready ICBM Warheads capable of destroying ICBM silos.............................7,070

2,100.......Total ICBM Warheads incl. reload, SS-20, stockpiled, covert warheads........20,200

35............Ballistic Missile Submarines...................................................​...................101

Zero.........Intercontinental Range Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs).............596

Zero.........Intercontinental Range SLBM Warheads..................................................2,0​00

3..............Cruise Missile Submarines...................................................​....................220

12............Sea-Launched Cruise Missiles (Nuclear Armed).............................................575

239..........Intercontinental Bombers......................................................​...................650

1,833.......Total Intercontinental Delivery Vehicles (Excl. Soviet Reload & Reserves)........3,500

4.4...........Online Ballistic Missile Throw-weight (Millions of pounds)...............................12.4

15............Predominant Age of Systems (Years)....................................................5 or less



Source: Soviet Military Supremacy--The Untold Facts About the Danger to America
Quentin Crommelin, Jr.
David S. Sullivan
Copyright 1985




.....................................................BOXSCORE​ NUMBER TWO.....................................................


United States .............................................................​................................................USSR


Zero.......ICBM Launchers w/ ICBM Reloads (incl. SS-16s, SS-20s, and SS 11s...............................1,850

Zero.......Modern Stockpiled and Reload ICBMs........................................................​............... 3,350

Zero.......Modern Reload ICBM Warheads (incl. SS-16s and SS-20s)...............................................9,300

100........Stockpiled Older ICBMs........................................................​....................................1,500

Zero.......Fractional Orbital ICBMs........................................................​.......................................18

Zero.......Rail-Mobile Modern ICBMs (SS-24)......................................................​..........................100

Zero.......Road-Mobile Modern ICBMs (SS-25)......................................................​.........................200

Zero.......Covert Intercontinental Bombers (Bear-H bomber w/ Air-Launched Cr. Missiles, ALCMs................50

Zero.......Covert Strategic Air-Launched Cruise Missiles (ALCMs)......................................................​.150

Zero.......Total Reserve Strategic Launch Systems (Reload, Covert, And Stockpiled Systems)...............3,700



Note: Sources are Department of Defense, U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament agency,
and Congressional and public reports. In its strategic nuclear reserve, the Soviet Union has
an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE MORE strategic nuclear delivery vehicles and warheads than are
counted in their on-line forces which, as seen in Box Score Number One, already greatly
exceed those of the United States. The United States does not have astrategic nuclear reserve
nor ANY unacknowledged launch systems.


Source: Soviet Military Supremacy--The Untold Facts About the Danger to America
Quentin Crommelin, Jr.
David S. Sullivan
Copyright 1985
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What, exactly, is in it for you to mock reality?
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The aggressor should feel paranoid...

Sanctions are restricting trade which facilitates good relations.

But no worries, the nuclear weapons have been deactivated.
Its bio warfare that has the most potential for damage.

But the US has already shot itself in both feet by destroying the constitution.

I wish ye much luck
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Copyright 1985
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says it all really
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03/09/2015 04:49 AM
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Copyright 1985
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says it all really
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The US has done nothing but decrease its nuclear capabilities since 1985, whereas the Russians have done just the opposite (with the help of the US, thanks to the success of the perestroika deception).

Will you continue to act a fool?
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03/09/2015 04:50 AM
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The U.S. sociopaths are really pushing the envelope in the Ukraine.

I do believe this situation is not going to end well.
 Quoting: geerod


the democrats found what they think is an effective formula in the 1990's... go on tv news programs and pathologically lie and attack any and everyone exactly like they did to ken starr... or anyone else that opposed the clinton cult.

america is run by a 21st century manson family cult.

it dresses up in drag like neo whatevers but is really just a manson family cult with ivy league degrees. it's media a cult as well, badly in need of de-programming.

they think putin is a dictator. in reality he represents a collective. a collective far larger and far more representative than the teeny tiny clique that runs the us media and political structure.

we are in a heap of shit.
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and right now they are just operating on PURE HATRED.
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03/09/2015 05:00 AM
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THE LONGER YOU STAY INDOORS AFTER THE NUCLEAR FALLOUT (DUST), THE BETTER YOUR CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. THE RADIATION HAS A HALF-LIFE THAT DIMINISHES OVER TIME. PREPARE A SAFEROOM. SUCH AS 1 BATHROOM. SEALING THE WINDOWS AND DOORS WITH PLASTIC SHEETING AND TAPE.hiding
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With all these nukes, I hope the soviets have a nuclear winter plan that will most of nature for decades if not centuries.
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03/09/2015 05:12 AM
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the playbook obama and kerry are using says to continue treating putin and lavrov as if they were ken starr-like pussymen...

and when reality does not indicate this, double down with hysterical pronouncements from chanting female psychopath chorus at the un, nsc and state department.
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Copyright 1985
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says it all really
 Quoting: fred also



The US has done nothing but decrease its nuclear capabilities since 1985, whereas the Russians have done just the opposite (with the help of the US, thanks to the success of the perestroika deception).

Will you continue to act a fool?
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Hallooo

The fall of the Berlin wall led to the collapse of the Russian military.

You lists are bullshit as well.
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Russia’s anti-American fever goes beyond the Soviet era’s

MOSCOW — Thought the Soviet Union was anti-American? Try today’s Russia.

After a year in which furious rhetoric has been pumped across Russian airwaves, anger toward the United States is at its worst since opinion polls began tracking it. From ordinary street vendors all the way up to the Kremlin, a wave of anti-U.S. bile has swept the country, surpassing any time since the Stalin era, observers say.


[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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I hope I live long enough to hear Washington, D.C. and Hollywood are gone before I get nuked.
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Me too.
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Don't panic unless they start to stockpile borsch concentrate.
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Russian Jets Run ‘Attack Scenarios’ on NATO Ships
Russia continues to take bold actions in European territory, near U.S.


Russian fighter jets have been using NATO ships in the Black Sea as target practice to run “attack scenarios,” a situation that NATO military officials say they are aware of and prepared to defend against if necessary.

In the latest sign of provocation against Western forces by Moscow, Russia is ordering its newest Su-30 multi-role fighter jets to track NATO forces and run mock attack drills to simulate penetrating NATO’s anti-air systems, according to Sputnik, a pro-Moscow news agency....


...Russian strategic nuclear bombers entered some 16 northwestern U.S. air defense zones over a 10-day period in August 2014, the Free Beacon reported.

Russian bombers also have carried out drills near Alaska in the past year.

Two Russian bombers were identified in September as carrying out practice cruise missile strikes on the United States.

[link to freebeacon.com]
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what has really has freaked out the british is that everytime their trident nuclear sub breaks the surface, there is a russian bear bomber overhead waiting armed with a nuclear missile... everytime!

this means russia is tracking submerged nato subs.

so in response, the british become even more reckless and hysterical knowing their time is short...

they are moving their ENTIRE army out of the uk for the simple reason that they can't protect it. so now they seek to ship it all to europe and disperse it. holding no reserves back.
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Thank god you have that all figured out. You should work for thre CIA or NSA. I doubt anybody there put all that together quite so eloquently.

Let's be real for a second, do you really think that Americas current state of 'unpreparedness' is real? I sure as shit don't. It's all a honeypot to trap our enemies. What do you think the massive military black budget goes towards? Its not cupcakes and pony rides.

If the shit ever goes down, all these secret projects and weapons will see the light of day and those who thought they had us cornered will realize they are in trouble.
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The John Titor tards are going to be heartbroken on the 13th.
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Thank god you have that all figured out. You should work for thre CIA or NSA. I doubt anybody there put all that together quite so eloquently.

Let's be real for a second, do you really think that Americas current state of 'unpreparedness' is real? I sure as shit don't. It's all a honeypot to trap our enemies. What do you think the massive military black budget goes towards? Its not cupcakes and pony rides.

If the shit ever goes down, all these secret projects and weapons will see the light of day and those who thought they had us cornered will realize they are in trouble.
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Maybe these "secret projects and weapons" in which you place your trust don't exist. Have you given any thought to that possibility? Have you considered that your belief in "secret projects and weapons" is based on rumors propagated by the enemies of this country who have much to gain by inculcating a false sense of security among the population?

What type of "secret projects and weapons" are effective against a nuclear power which has as its aim the erosion of the will of its enemy to defend itself?
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