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Senators Offer Plan to Close IRS Forever

 
Anonymous Coward
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At what % would this new tax equal. I am all for the destruction of the IRS, Treasury, etc. but why would we trust any of these politicians to replace it with a rate that's fair. Everything you buy already has tax built into it. Tax revenues are $40 million a day. Why is that not enough?
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Buy or barter used goods between friends and neighbors, or strangers on boards like craigslist. I'd add flea markets and such, but I'm sure the government would try to close all such loopholes, forcing people to pay tax on all purchases. They'd like to disallow private party sales and barter, but it's impossible to ban that.
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Full of IRS & Rockefeller whistle blowers, fully states we do not have to pay IRS anything. They interview irs agents, bankers who let him in the door because he I was an name in hollywood, then shit bricks when while camera he starts talking with them about law & how no one owes IRS anything



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03/12/2015 09:30 PM
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lol, senator moran
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I was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed.
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I noticed it, too. Thought I would just "overlook" it.
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03/12/2015 09:35 PM
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a federal reserve note is a private currency,
and you pay a fee called an income tax to use it.
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03/12/2015 09:51 PM
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Any chance this will pass??

"Has the late, great JimTraficant’s flat sales-tax proposal outlived the former Ohio Democratic congressman and entered the legislative pipeline? This could be the case, as Senators Gerald W. “Jerry” Moran (R-Kan.) and David Alfred Perdue, Jr. (R-Ga.) have introduced a bill designed “to overhaul and simplify the American tax system.”

The bill, S. 155, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. The other cosponsors at this writing are Senators Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Its House companion bill is H.R. 25.

Moran’s bill, in many respects, uncannily resembles the federal consumption tax proposal put forth by Traficant."

Source: [link to americanfreepress.net]
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Notice the sponsors last name.....Moran
"One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson

"You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think".

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Any chance this will pass??

"Has the late, great JimTraficant’s flat sales-tax proposal outlived the former Ohio Democratic congressman and entered the legislative pipeline? This could be the case, as Senators Gerald W. “Jerry” Moran (R-Kan.) and David Alfred Perdue, Jr. (R-Ga.) have introduced a bill designed “to overhaul and simplify the American tax system.”

The bill, S. 155, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. The other cosponsors at this writing are Senators Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Its House companion bill is H.R. 25.

Moran’s bill, in many respects, uncannily resembles the federal consumption tax proposal put forth by Traficant."

Source: [link to americanfreepress.net]
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Notice the sponsors last name.....Moran
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It's classic!
cruise
Anonymous Coward
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03/12/2015 10:00 PM
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What would become of all those accountants out there? No need for the bean counters!

Tax collectors have always been among the most despised of our society. Along with congressmen and criminals. That hasn't changed!
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Full of IRS & Rockefeller whistle blowers, fully states we do not have to pay IRS anything. They interview irs agents, bankers who let him in the door because he I was an name in hollywood, then shit bricks when while camera he starts talking with them about law & how no one owes IRS anything



[link to youtu.be]

Aaron Russo made some good stuff check him out Google & utube
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People here think that someone gave him cancer.
vor
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03/12/2015 10:25 PM
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Why do we even need to replace the feral income tax with a flat tax? According to the Grace Commission Report, virtually ALL feral income taxes collected goes to pay the interest on the debt notes that the Feral Reserve loans into circulation. Before the 16th Amendment, the government printed and circulated its own currency and there was no interest to be collected.

If we get rid of the Fed, we then get rid of the feral income tax. There would be no need to impose a flat sales tax, or any other tax, to replace the funds that were only paying interest through the Fed to the international bankers.

"The Creature from Jeckyll Island" explains how we got stuck with the Feral Reserve. "The Law that Never Was" explains how the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified and therefore is null and void. Also, there isn't a judge in this country with the balls to state the truth even though they know the truth.
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lol, senator moran
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Actually, he is a very good senator. But, yeah...glp
are all.

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03/12/2015 11:22 PM
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Any chance this will pass??

"Has the late, great JimTraficant’s flat sales-tax proposal outlived the former Ohio Democratic congressman and entered the legislative pipeline? This could be the case, as Senators Gerald W. “Jerry” Moran (R-Kan.) and David Alfred Perdue, Jr. (R-Ga.) have introduced a bill designed “to overhaul and simplify the American tax system.”

The bill, S. 155, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. The other cosponsors at this writing are Senators Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Its House companion bill is H.R. 25.

Moran’s bill, in many respects, uncannily resembles the federal consumption tax proposal put forth by Traficant."

Source: [link to americanfreepress.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68559967


Notice the sponsors last name.....Moran
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


It's classic!
cruise
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ohyeah
"One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson

"You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think".

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views."
-William F. Buckley Jr.
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03/12/2015 11:46 PM
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Any chance this will pass??

"Has the late, great JimTraficant’s flat sales-tax proposal outlived the former Ohio Democratic congressman and entered the legislative pipeline? This could be the case, as Senators Gerald W. “Jerry” Moran (R-Kan.) and David Alfred Perdue, Jr. (R-Ga.) have introduced a bill designed “to overhaul and simplify the American tax system.”

The bill, S. 155, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. The other cosponsors at this writing are Senators Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Its House companion bill is H.R. 25.

Moran’s bill, in many respects, uncannily resembles the federal consumption tax proposal put forth by Traficant."

Source: [link to americanfreepress.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68559967


Fuck you all! its the same IVA 16% tax I posted about to be implemented in PUERTO RICO

You are goin to be fucked beyond believe !!! I tod you we were the fucking experiment , you are next victims !
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Any chance this will pass??

"Has the late, great JimTraficant’s flat sales-tax proposal outlived the former Ohio Democratic congressman and entered the legislative pipeline? This could be the case, as Senators Gerald W. “Jerry” Moran (R-Kan.) and David Alfred Perdue, Jr. (R-Ga.) have introduced a bill designed “to overhaul and simplify the American tax system.”

The bill, S. 155, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. The other cosponsors at this writing are Senators Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Its House companion bill is H.R. 25.

Moran’s bill, in many respects, uncannily resembles the federal consumption tax proposal put forth by Traficant."

Source: [link to americanfreepress.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68559967


Notice the sponsors last name.....Moran
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


It's classic!
cruise
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ohyeah
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Moran actually isn't the bad egg, Roberts is. The last election here almost had him booted out but the opponent was revealed to be a closet leftist and...that sunk him. Definitely makes me weary of anything he stamps onto. Moran...he's better but very forgetful. Only reason I remember him as my senator is thanks to the meme here....

Problem with any bill they pass is it'll get punted by the exec and unlikely to get an over ride veto on. My guess is the Repukes are going to start sliding a lot of things through to get Obama to use his veto pen a lot just so they can set up the 2016 issues. I mean if you know the guy is going to blindly veto everything you send...why not use it to your advantage yes?
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03/13/2015 12:29 AM
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Bill should be contingent upon the the repeal the 16th Amendment. Otherwise it only opens the door to a federal sales tax on top of the existing income tax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68399693


This is a real concern.


You can imagine them starting up a federal sales tax, then promising to sloooowly kill off the IRS... and ten years later, both systems are still sucking your wallet dry!

The Federal Reserve corporation and IRS were born together, one hand loans money to FedGov and the other insures these private bankers get paid on time. Through income taxes, of course.

To kill off the IRS would also mean the end of the Federal Reserve system as we know it. Ain't gonna happen any time soon, very sad to say.
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I have to agree with this 100%
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Taxation in the United Kingdom may involve payments to a minimum of two different levels of government: the central government (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) and local government. Central government revenues come primarily from income tax, National Insurance contributions, value added tax, corporation tax and fuel duty. Local government revenues come primarily from grants from central government funds, business rates in England and Wales, Council Tax and increasingly from fees and charges such as those from on-street parking. In the fiscal year 2007-08, total government revenue was 39.2 per cent of GDP, with net taxes and National Insurance contributions standing at 36.9 per cent of GDP[1]—approximately £600 billion (using 2008 nominal GDP measured in dollars, and converting using 2009 conversion rate).blaircoffeecupKD
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same reaction as the net neutrality ...

seems your souls are inside the pig herd jesus told to jump down the clift ...

be it!
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And would make the effective tax rate on the poor
be north of 50 percent and south of 10 percent for the very rich.
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Bill should be contingent upon the the repeal the 16th Amendment. Otherwise it only opens the door to a federal sales tax on top of the existing income tax.
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How can an Amendment, the 16th, that was never passed be repealed?

When Gingrinch brought up the flat tax, I believe that corporations like H&R Block reminded congress of how many jobs would be lost if they simplified the income tax. Nothing has changed, and the tax corporations will keep their jobs.
But then that was before congress would force us to buy things whether we wanted it or not. Maybe they'll form a tax brokerage thing like the insurance scam, and we'll all be forced to have our taxes done by a professional tax business.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Aaand yes it will. We will wind up with BOTH and income tax, and VAT to go along with it. Why steal from one pocket when you can do both?
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Happened all over Europe. The price you pay for goods is now nearly a quarter VAT.





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