Origins of the Christ God

Jesus is a prophet. An enlightened human being on a frequency that nobody can get. But he was only human. Not son of God or God.

I will explain the video and how it relates too if you want...

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

-John 10:29-31

Hmmm....

Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. You do not believe that apparently. So according to you, Jesus was a pathological liar. You are contradicting yourself here.

Here's a rhetorical question: would you argue with someone whose mind is already made up and cannot be changed?

That doesn't mean he is God... When God made you He put a piece of Him in you. The purpose of this life is to find that piece. Jesus found it. And yes God was speaking through him

Jesus never claimed that. King James did the edit...

Is your mind made up?

Ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Greek Septuagint? These two preceded the KJV by thousands of years, and verified it.

Let this be a lesson to you Believers in how foolish it is to start debating Unbelievers. There's no need for debate as their mind is already made up and the debate is a facade to try and get you to question your faith. That in itself is a deception.

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The original Hebrew texts were corrupted, hence we have the Latin Vulgate and hundreds of other versions today. My point about the Dead Sea Scrolls was that it verified the Old Testament found in the KJV, exactly.

Can you name another version that can claim that?

A problem arises when they try to influence other people who have not hardened their hearts yet.

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BIBLE MYTHS AND THEIR PARALLELS IN OTHER RELIGIONS
BEING A COMPARISON OF THE
Old and New Testament Myths and Miracles
WITH THOSE OF HEATHEN NATIONS OF ANTIQUITY
CONSIDERING ALSO THEIR ORIGIN AND MEANING
BY T. W. DOANE


and


Ancient Near East Texts Relating to the Old Testament
by James B. Pritchard

You mean 'steel' their hearts. A hardened (stony) heart is what Jesus Christ turns to a heart of flesh.

Eh... yes? They are one in purpose.

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Shall we check out how the chapter continues?

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. John 17:21

Ops! Are you expecting to meld into on huge, superindividual with other followers of Christ anytime soon? No, of course not. What's also ironic is that if that verse means what trinitarians pretend is does, that would make it modalism, a church heresy, and not trinitarianism.

How many Gods?


4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: Deuteronomy 6:4

One! And does Jesus have a God? Maybe we should keep reading John.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17

Actually, 'hardened' does not literally equate to 'stony' in the New Testament. I stand by my statement.

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All religion is beautiful... Its all about perspective. We are each have our own galaxies. We are the bright star in the middle of it. Now life brings things in and out of our circles. And when things come in and out we experience different emotions. Everyone is unique no matter how close the experience is to another person. So no two perspectives are the same. That is why you will never know or get to the whole truth because there is no way you could interact with all the billions of circles out there. It is all an illusion. You think you know but you don't. Now we are all part of this one whole big universe and the center of it is God. That is the only true perspective. To get to God, you have to lose perspective first. It is the only way. To lose perspective you have to lose your ego. That is the most common element in all the relgions of the world. The ego is the true devil. Now once you break free, religion just provides you with a road map to the center of the universe. And the prophets have already taken that road. That is what they are trying to tell you...

It is beautiful until it gets corrupted by men for selfish reasons...

-the Bible points to it it being literal in meaning. The two bruises in Ge:3:15 are covered in great detail. Moses and events after are literal events that came to an end when the bruise to the heel was completed in word and deed. The words, 'It is finished by Jesus just before He died.' was a reference to that verse. By going to the grave it established the bruise as meaning death and for Satan and the other fallen angels it means the fiery lake. The method is from Adam to Moses the world was under the rule of Satan and other fallen angels as they were the kings of that time. From the flood until the exodus wars the promised land was controlled by the remnant of the giants and it was their extermination ended the law that fallen angels were governed by. With the first bruise being literal then when Christ says, 'It is done.' as He pours out the last vial then that is the literal death being referenced and for a fallen angel it is being put into the same pit that 10,000 Angels did during the time of the flood.
When Enoch mentioned this it was a prophecy, when Moses mentions it it is a past event.

Jude:1:14:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

Coming up with literal versions for all the stories blends with science as long as you let the book explain how it does some things. The more things it does that for the higher the odds are it is more than just your average mystery novel.

-using the old earth theory the Bible is the only one that puts the sunlight creating the first day/night cycle on this earth as being 4BYA

-using the old earth model that time as we know it was only established by the end of day 4 (40MYA) as a day was only 6 hours long at the end of day 1. Using the 1,000 year reign and the same kind of time keeping for days in a a week and the melting of the earth by fire will happen in 3.6B years when the sun turns into a red giant.

- the similar reference top all the inhabitants of the earth in Re:8 and Jer:24 references the same events so the 4th seal prophecy is giving us the inhabitable part of the earth that will be effected. The total land area of the earth is 1/4 of the whole area so it might indicate 1/4 but it is leaving out the oceans as they do not qualify as inhabitable parts of the earth

- the flood story was 40 by rain in 40 days. The oceans have risen 400 ft since the ice began to melt so all 244 flood stories could all be based om different floods and most ore from rising water rather than it coming from the sky. The flood that cleaned the mud out of the Med Sea and parked it in North Africa must have been a pretty large placial lake breaking loose.

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The same in that God, the Holy Spirit and Christ all come from the 3rd heaven. It is the new heaven for the 2/3 of the angels that didn't sin.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22-23:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
o the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,


1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.

The identity of the beloved disciple can be found and it isn't the Apostle John, it is the disciple of John the Baptist that was with Andrew. That is the easy puzzles, the prophecy about the 'day of the Lord' is a little harder than that.

Last Edited by Wayfaring Stranger on 03/15/2015 01:51 AM

no, i understand that majority thinks it was the 25th but a small sect does not, you can not undo the entheogens i have taken and the visions i have seen, everything is false, including all, ALLLLLLL religions.

take DMT and tell me i am wrong, i fucking dare you bitch

half the bible is left out. it's a censored book of lies, and you cannot 'PROVE' anything by it because of that.

now if you have read ALL the Nag Hammadi, get back with me.

Here we go with that shit again.

And here we go with the answer to your defeated claims:
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why do you rehash all the same old defeated arguments dude?

Here's some stuff to check out:
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It's apparent that DMT has not benefited your attitude one bit if this is the fruit of such mind altering drugs.
To really believe the claim that the One True God needs mind altering drugs to experience His presence must be one of the greatest deceits of all time.
Here is the fallacy of all eastern religion - that you ARE God and that by knowing good and evil that you can be AS GOD.
Their claim - that all men have the God spark within them.
So, to prove such a claim, they ask that you 'go within' and to experience the things which come through mind altering practices, whether that be from drugs, chanting, whirling, breathing exercises or meditation. Lo and behold, your mind trips on dmt, you experience things and you conclude from those experiences that the claim above is true. You never once entertain the possibility that these signs, these experiences, are in themselves lying signs and wonders. In other words, that somebody has deceived you, leading you to conclude that these signs are really evidence of the 'truthfulness' of their claim - when in fact, the signs do not evidence the claim at all but something else.

What if in fact those signs which you experience, are in fact the truthfulness of the claim that all who refused to believe the Truth are given the delusion?

What if you have been led by the blind into misreading the signs? What if you have been led into believing signs to support their claim when in fact the signs do no such thing??

To think the One True God who commands that we keep sober minds would set it up to require people trip out on DMT and other mind altering techniques....is preposterous.

Wait a minute. Jesus was born under law, of woman.
Made in the form of man, emptying himself.

Adam – Man
Seth – Appointed
Enosh – Mortal
Kenan – Sorrow
Mahalalel – The blessed God
Jared – Shall come down
Enoch – Teaching
Methuselah – His death shall bring
Lamech – Despairing
Noah – Comfort and rest

Put those meanings into a complete sentence and you get:
Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow, (but) the blessed God shall come down teaching. His death shall bring (the) despairing comfort and rest.

dmt is a man made drug