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Global Warming Receives Another Nail In It's Coffin

 
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Global Warming or a New Ice Age: Documentary Film

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles. In contrast to the global cooling conjecture, the current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the twentieth century.

Concerns about nuclear winter arose in the early 1980s from several reports. Similar speculations have appeared over effects due to catastrophes such as asteroid impacts and massive volcanic eruptions. A prediction that massive oil well fires in Kuwait would cause significant effects on climate was quite incorrect.

The idea of a global cooling as the result of global warming was already proposed in the 1990s. In 2003, the Office of Net Assessment at the United States Department of Defense was commissioned to produce a study on the likely and potential effects of a modern climate change, especially of a shutdown of thermohaline circulation. The study, conducted under ONA head Andrew Marshall, modelled its prospective climate change on the 8.2 kiloyear event, precisely because it was the middle alternative between the Younger Dryas and the Little Ice Age. The study caused controversy in the media when it was made public in 2004. However, scientists acknowledge that "abrupt climate change initiated by Greenland ice sheet melting is not a realistic scenario for the 21st century".

Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC. More has to be learned about climate, but the growing records have shown that the cooling concerns of 1975 have not been borne out.

As for the prospects of the end of the current interglacial (again, valid only in the absence of human perturbations): it isn't true that interglacials have previously only lasted about 10,000 years; and Milankovitch-type calculations indicate that the present interglacial would probably continue for tens of thousands of years naturally. Other estimates (Loutre and Berger, based on orbital calculations) put the unperturbed length of the present interglacial at 50,000 years. Berger (EGU 2005 presentation) believes that the present CO2 perturbation will last long enough to suppress the next glacial cycle entirely.

As the NAS report indicates, scientific knowledge regarding climate change was more uncertain than it is today. At the time that Rasool and Schneider wrote their 1971 paper, climatologists had not yet recognized the significance of greenhouse gases other than water vapor and carbon dioxide, such as methane, nitrous oxide, and chlorofluorocarbons. Early in that decade, carbon dioxide was the only widely studied human-influenced greenhouse gas. The attention drawn to atmospheric gases in the 1970s stimulated many discoveries in future decades. As the temperature pattern changed, global cooling was of waning interest by 1979.

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Neo feudalism is the end result of this so those who aid and abet the return to this are hoping that they will become the nobility wearing the white coats or the enforcer class who will love to round up those trying to make a better life for themselves. They see where the wind is blowing so they want to stomp on the evil commoner so that the lords can have their enemy to blame.
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We smashed all kinds of records for cold and snow here in the northeast. Yet, some people here still are buying the government data that stated we had record warmth this past winter. One lady told me that the other day, and I looked at her and asked where she has been all winter.
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“My skepticism begins with the believers’ certainty they can predict the global climate with a computer model. The entire basis for the doomsday climate change scenario is the hypothesis increased atmospheric carbon dioxide due to fossil fuel emissions will heat the Earth to unlivable temperatures.

“In fact, the Earth has been warming very gradually for 300 years, since the Little Ice Age ended, long before heavy use of fossil fuels. Prior to the Little Ice Age, during the Medieval Warm Period, Vikings colonized Greenland and Newfoundland, when it was warmer there than today. And during Roman times, it was warmer, long before fossil fuels revolutionized civilization.

“The idea it would be catastrophic if carbon dioxide were to increase and average global temperature were to rise a few degrees is preposterous.”

- - Patrick Moore, founding member and former president of Greenpeace

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Global Warming is real.
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Hi Prince Charles hows your ears?
epiclol
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I suppose they are proportionately dainty this afternoon coffee4
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And what has dear ´ole Dad had to say about all this...

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Global Warming is real.
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Hi Prince Charles hows your ears?
epiclol
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I suppose they are proportionately dainty this afternoon coffee4
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And what has dear ´ole Dad had to say about all this...


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...

Do you drive a car? Live in a house or apartment? You obviously use technology. YOU are creating your own "global warming" nightmare. Go buy some carbon credits, or whatever bullshit they're trying to sell.
 Quoting: Hingle McCringleberry


So what's your solution? Burn more fossil carbon? There are alternatives, we need to get started on them now.
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I don't need a solution, because it's all horseshit. You know what? I take the long way to work, because it burns more gas. I keep my house heated to 78 in winter and cooled to 68 in summer, just because I can. I'm not the one crying about "global warming." If anyone cries about "global warming," though, THEY should take action and stop doing all the things that exacerbate the "problem!"
 Quoting: Hingle McCringleberry


Of course you "don't need a solution," because a solution would require some effort on your part. Your life is just for you, RIGHT? Unfortunately, the indifference of people like you comes back to haunt us all, and our descendants.

If you think everyone else is going to "take action" while you dismissively and conveniently sit on your ass, then expect the ridicule you deserve.
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Oooh, I fear your ridicule (NOT). What are YOU doing to "curb global warming?" Do you drive a car? Do you live in a house or apartment? You obviously use technology, so YOU are causing the planet to heat. Stop using all those things, and then get back to me. Until then, STFU.
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New Climate Paper Gives Global Warming Alarmists ‘One Helluva Beating’

finds that the effects of aerosols on climate are much smaller than those in almost all the computer models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

[link to nation.foxnews.com]
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Keep believing FOX you sucker.
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We smashed all kinds of records for cold and snow here in the northeast. Yet, some people here still are buying the government data that stated we had record warmth this past winter. One lady told me that the other day, and I looked at her and asked where she has been all winter.
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I can't believe people are still debating that this is an issue.

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Do the global warmists still call it global warming, or have they all changed over to climate change? I'd like to hear from a global warmer or a climate changer, please.
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Lol the Human race is doomed lol
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Actually, we do know. As the atmospheric ratio of CO2 goes up, the heat retention factor goes up as well. This is not some feckless theory, it's fact based on the laws of physics.

Trying to say that we don't know why the planet is warming up, is just another way to rationalize the desire to do nothing about it.
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really?
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Do the global warmists still call it global warming, or have they all changed over to climate change? I'd like to hear from a global warmer or a climate changer, please.
 Quoting: Hingle McCringleberry


Climate change and global warming are too different ideas that share similar bases. If I have to explain further do a quick google search on the definition of each one.
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.
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"I've taken some physical science classes in college before, and although I do not yet have a degree, I am glad to see more evidence to the contrary of the subject of global warming. In case it isn't obvious, I am no environmentalist of any kind whatsoever. I consider myself to be more of a conservationist when it comes to natural resources, including oil and natural gas, which I think that even the possibility of running completely out of naturally-occurring resources such as this would be devastating to put it mildly if it were all suddenly gone one day! (We should at least try to produce synthetic oil and gasoline, and no I don't mean biodiesel or any second-rate shit like that!). Anyway, I've also known for quite some time (in my opinion at least) that most if not all environmentalism and it's theories/research is TOTAL JUNK SCIENCE, PERIOD!! One last thing, as a chemistry major, I can assure anyone out there that the idea that Freon affecting the ozone layer is an absolute crock of shit!"

"THANKS!"
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Titan and the other moons didn't have dinosaurs. The vast molecular nebuli throughout the universe didnt have dinosaurs so dont worry about it. Socalled fossils fuels are naturally formed as part of the earth geological processes. Water and carbon combined under pressure and temperature and you get petroleum or natural gas. Relax.
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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That's because the cracka racis is hiddin it to be anti semites, if you will.

See, it makes perfect sense. Now give Algore all your money so that you cant pollute with electricity and gasoline. Don't eat food you racis.
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I hope they bring back r12...
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Use N-butane. Works better and costs nothing.
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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Venice is flooding.

Fail.
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Do the global warmists still call it global warming, or have they all changed over to climate change? I'd like to hear from a global warmer or a climate changer, please.
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You are a denier and racis. Pay all your money in carbon tax. Dont eat or you are racis.
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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Venice is flooding.

Fail. pick
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brilliant
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More Faux News, huh?
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Cuz it's only news if it comes from limp wristed, feministic, God hating, liberal government shills?
STFU.
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applause2
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New Climate Paper Gives Global Warming Alarmists ‘One Helluva Beating’

finds that the effects of aerosols on climate are much smaller than those in almost all the computer models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

[link to nation.foxnews.com]
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After many decades of thousands of peer reviewed papers we have 100% compliance from every scientific organization in the world that studies climate change that it is real, mostly man made, and needs urgent attention.

Science takes lots of time and unlike spurts of news it goes through lots of review and debunking etc. So as the real scientists only argue about the difference of about 103 or 104 if the equivelent for a person having a temperature the media grabs any straw of denial to keep. tarsands/keystone/ pipe schemes/rail with genocide and ecocide put pedal to the metal which unlike the same players for smoking our children do not have a choice and pay the most and will down the road for the corruption and mindless denial mostly mercenary in nature to make a quick buck off of a quick hit piece like we see daily from Fox, and a few of the business newspapers.

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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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Venice is flooding.

Fail.
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That's because Venice is sinking.

Global temperatures have not risen for the last 17 years.

But who cares about reality?
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Global Warming or a New Ice Age: Documentary Film

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles. In contrast to the global cooling conjecture, the current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the twentieth century.

Concerns about nuclear winter arose in the early 1980s from several reports. Similar speculations have appeared over effects due to catastrophes such as asteroid impacts and massive volcanic eruptions. A prediction that massive oil well fires in Kuwait would cause significant effects on climate was quite incorrect.

The idea of a global cooling as the result of global warming was already proposed in the 1990s. In 2003, the Office of Net Assessment at the United States Department of Defense was commissioned to produce a study on the likely and potential effects of a modern climate change, especially of a shutdown of thermohaline circulation. The study, conducted under ONA head Andrew Marshall, modelled its prospective climate change on the 8.2 kiloyear event, precisely because it was the middle alternative between the Younger Dryas and the Little Ice Age. The study caused controversy in the media when it was made public in 2004. However, scientists acknowledge that "abrupt climate change initiated by Greenland ice sheet melting is not a realistic scenario for the 21st century".

Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC. More has to be learned about climate, but the growing records have shown that the cooling concerns of 1975 have not been borne out.

As for the prospects of the end of the current interglacial (again, valid only in the absence of human perturbations): it isn't true that interglacials have previously only lasted about 10,000 years; and Milankovitch-type calculations indicate that the present interglacial would probably continue for tens of thousands of years naturally. Other estimates (Loutre and Berger, based on orbital calculations) put the unperturbed length of the present interglacial at 50,000 years. Berger (EGU 2005 presentation) believes that the present CO2 perturbation will last long enough to suppress the next glacial cycle entirely.

As the NAS report indicates, scientific knowledge regarding climate change was more uncertain than it is today. At the time that Rasool and Schneider wrote their 1971 paper, climatologists had not yet recognized the significance of greenhouse gases other than water vapor and carbon dioxide, such as methane, nitrous oxide, and chlorofluorocarbons. Early in that decade, carbon dioxide was the only widely studied human-influenced greenhouse gas. The attention drawn to atmospheric gases in the 1970s stimulated many discoveries in future decades. As the temperature pattern changed, global cooling was of waning interest by 1979.

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Global Warming or a New Ice Age: Documentary Film

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles. In contrast to the global cooling conjecture, the current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the twentieth century.

Concerns about nuclear winter arose in the early 1980s from several reports. Similar speculations have appeared over effects due to catastrophes such as asteroid impacts and massive volcanic eruptions. A prediction that massive oil well fires in Kuwait would cause significant effects on climate was quite incorrect.

The idea of a global cooling as the result of global warming was already proposed in the 1990s. In 2003, the Office of Net Assessment at the United States Department of Defense was commissioned to produce a study on the likely and potential effects of a modern climate change, especially of a shutdown of thermohaline circulation. The study, conducted under ONA head Andrew Marshall, modelled its prospective climate change on the 8.2 kiloyear event, precisely because it was the middle alternative between the Younger Dryas and the Little Ice Age. The study caused controversy in the media when it was made public in 2004. However, scientists acknowledge that "abrupt climate change initiated by Greenland ice sheet melting is not a realistic scenario for the 21st century".

Currently, the concern that cooler temperatures would continue, and perhaps at a faster rate, has been observed to be incorrect by the IPCC. More has to be learned about climate, but the growing records have shown that the cooling concerns of 1975 have not been borne out.

As for the prospects of the end of the current interglacial (again, valid only in the absence of human perturbations): it isn't true that interglacials have previously only lasted about 10,000 years; and Milankovitch-type calculations indicate that the present interglacial would probably continue for tens of thousands of years naturally. Other estimates (Loutre and Berger, based on orbital calculations) put the unperturbed length of the present interglacial at 50,000 years. Berger (EGU 2005 presentation) believes that the present CO2 perturbation will last long enough to suppress the next glacial cycle entirely.

As the NAS report indicates, scientific knowledge regarding climate change was more uncertain than it is today. At the time that Rasool and Schneider wrote their 1971 paper, climatologists had not yet recognized the significance of greenhouse gases other than water vapor and carbon dioxide, such as methane, nitrous oxide, and chlorofluorocarbons. Early in that decade, carbon dioxide was the only widely studied human-influenced greenhouse gas. The attention drawn to atmospheric gases in the 1970s stimulated many discoveries in future decades. As the temperature pattern changed, global cooling was of waning interest by 1979.

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It's aweme that any fool can find some bullshit on the Internet and post it on a forum as legit. This is spite of the fact that climate scientist agree and have agreed for quite some time that we have an Impact on the climate. I fact there is more agreement on this issue than most objective scientific studies. Any climate change denier will always neglect to say that. Our ocean is warming at a expertise rate, the artis ice has really melted, ocean levels have raised...it's really clear. Even logically you really should have come to this conclusion, But if you are that much if a moron might I recomend any of you non-science believing glow jobs to spend a couple of weeks in Beijing in China and then tell me what how all that shit they are pumping into the air is not effecting their climate.

Real talk you self righteous piece of shit...read a book.!
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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Venice is flooding.

Fail.
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That's because Venice is sinking.

Global temperatures have not risen for the last 17 years.

But who cares about reality?
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If the globe was warming,
sea levels would be rising.

Isn't happening.

PERIOD.

END OF STORY.

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Venice is flooding.

Fail.
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That's because Venice is sinking.

Global temperatures have not risen for the last 17 years.

But who cares about reality?
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Yes they have...now go back to your mothers basement and cry about your life.
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We smashed all kinds of records for cold and snow here in the northeast. Yet, some people here still are buying the government data that stated we had record warmth this past winter. One lady told me that the other day, and I looked at her and asked where she has been all winter.
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you might have broken records there. but overall it was the warmest winter ever on record!
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If all the climate hoaxers jumped off a cliff they might save the planet
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Wonder why Alaska had virtually no snow this winter.

There are alarming articles popping up all over the place about Alaska's lack of a winter this season.

You do have to admit it's pretty weird.
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That's from a screwed up jet stream, don't tell me, one gas is the cause of it all.
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Lol the Human race is doomed lol
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Actually, we do know. As the atmospheric ratio of CO2 goes up, the heat retention factor goes up as well. This is not some feckless theory, it's fact based on the laws of physics.

Trying to say that we don't know why the planet is warming up, is just another way to rationalize the desire to do nothing about it.
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really?
[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

Keep repeating a lie …
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4204133


LOL whatsupwiththat is the most scientifically devoid denialist website on the net. Every single implication on their site has been debunked 10 times over.

It's nothing but a cluster fuck of cherry picked data, mis-applied data, mis-interpreted charts, non contextual quotes, subjective distractions, and glib denials.

If any one wants to dispute global warming you only need to disprove 2 things:

1.) That we're not releasing 80,000,000 tons of new CO2 into the atmosphere each day. A statistical fact.

2.) That CO2 does not cause heat retention in the atmosphere. Governed by the laws of physics.

Those are the two things that the denialist crowd never want to address, --- at least with any semblance of scientific credibility.
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If all the climate hoaxers jumped off a cliff they might save the planet
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What hoaxers? You mean the carbon plutocrats that have been distorting the truth about global warming in order to protect their industry? Them hoaxers?





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