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Genesis 1:2 " and the earth HAD BECOME without form and void..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68660919


Wow...that passage takes on new meaning with reference
to the info in this thread, doesn't it!
Good catch! Thanks!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


that's not what the verse says

it says the earth WAS formless and empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep....
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, that's one possible interpretation.

There are others and this debate is far older than modern scientific theories.

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Genesis 1:2 " and the earth HAD BECOME without form and void..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68660919


Wow...that passage takes on new meaning with reference
to the info in this thread, doesn't it!
Good catch! Thanks!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


that's not what the verse says

it says the earth WAS formless and empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep....
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, that's one possible interpretation.

There are others and this debate is far older than modern scientific theories.

[link to www.ucg.org]
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


well i dont subscribe to the theory of a god particle

there is no beginning
there is no end

just change

God just is.
and you can't find Him by smashing electrons

but i bet you can find all kinds of other answers
the kind that come thru doors that cannot be shut afterward
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MAIN QUESTION FOR THIS THREAD:
Many of us are fearful of CERN causing a "black-hole
-accident" this year that could cause all life on the
planet to evaporate--or localized disaster!
How can we NOT fear such a possibility?


I´ve said it before and i hate to reminde you of the simple truth that black holes do not exist in the way hollywood told you.

Anyone into high energy physics knows that since 2014.

Youre explanation falls totally apart after that postulate.
[link to arxiv.org]

GLP physics is something you can explain and sell by a youtube video and a nice smile. There is no math needed to prove glp physics. It´s all magic and a mix of knowledge between star trek and the pyramids.

I do understand that common folks are afraid of CERN but seriously, everyone is easily brought into a state of fear if he does not have the proper education to understand the whole picture.

I do understand that it is also pretty easy to believe any author of a video/thread if the explanation is explained in a way everyone can understand.
But we are not talking about brushing youre teeth, we are talking about complex physics and mathematics that takes decades to fully learn and understand.

I am suggesting two simple methods to lower youre fear, inscribe on youre nearest University and try to reach the understanding you need to really decide if something is dangerous or not, or to simply not waste that energy in a field were you have no education and use it somewhere else.

I do not want to erase youre fear or believesystem with this post, it´s only a hint to a flawed approach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44154070


I'm sorry....but that same old "Good ole Boy Club"
crap about needing to have a math degree or some higher
education to understand the topic--here--because it
happens to "touch" your own sacred branch of science
--and we at GLP don't "qualify" to understand what we
are seeing...is RUBBISH!

Danny Wilten probably has a B.S. college degree--maybe
4 or 5 years of college to allow him to work in the
computer analyst position--He may have a Masters Degree.
...He was able to just by pattern recognition and using some sophisticated computer programs for correlation studies to discover the black hole in the Orion Nebula
and he even says several times in his videos:
YOU DON'T NEED A HIGHER DEGREE, OR AN UNDERSTANDING
OF THEORETICAL PHYSICS TO "GET THIS STUFF!"

NASA never did give him credit, of course, but his research has been up on the internet for public view--as well as for NASA's guys to intercept it--for over 3 years now.
We need to use discernment in what we watch on UTUBE and
other sources of information on the internet, of course.
It is often hip-deep in misinformation.
But to suggest that an intelligent person with even a high school education "can't understand this" is a very short-sighted view point--and a subtle "put down."
The sources that I have given on this thread, the clear explanations for what we are seeing on the "Event Horizon" of the Orion Nebula with the basics I've presented speaks for itself. It's NOT "rocket-science!"
AND...There is nothing "flawed" on this thread except maybe the point of view on who has the "right" to information about CERN in YOUR post!
Thanks for sharing though I don't agree with you.
O'sCookie


Edited later:
GLP physics is something you can explain and sell by a youtube video and a nice smile. There is no math needed to prove glp physics. It´s all magic and a mix of knowledge between star trek and the pyramids.
This statement is VASTLY short-sighted to the
many very bright and articulate GLP members who
post threads and reply to threads. To suggest that
we are all just glued to the TV screens watching
for our explanation of the sciences from "Star
Trek" is insulting and spurious.

Then, on TOP of this insult which everyone on
GLP should be enraged to read...you have the
EGOIC-GALL to put up a reference that you
already KNOW most people, even many within the
branch of science to which you claim to be such an
illustrious member would be hard-pressed to
decipher...here it is:
[link to arxiv.org]
It's basically just "blah-blah-blah-look-at
-how-much-smarter-I-am-than-You-Dumb-hick-
GLPers!"
You've got some nerve, dude!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie

Sorry that i let you feel uncomfort.
It wasn´t ment as an insult.

And you don´t have to be a member of an illustrious branch of science to read the Abstract.
You just take it for granted that i wanna be a showoff.

It shows that due to the negative energy Hawking radiation in the interior, the collapse of the star stops at a finite radius, before the singularity and the event horizon of a black hole have a chance to form.

Now this statement isn´t just hanging in the air and as i pointed out you could do the math given in the same script in contrast to many statements made on glp.

I like new and refreshing ideas but when you make statements about a complex system you should at least try to use the language of physics which is math.

I´m sorry that you felt insulted that was absolutly not my point.

Maybe youre intention was to bring out a new idea and discuss that, i was not aware of such a situation and thought you want to sell this as fact.

Let´s lay our disbute to rest. hf
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MAIN QUESTION FOR THIS THREAD:
Many of us are fearful of CERN causing a "black-hole
-accident" this year that could cause all life on the
planet to evaporate--or localized disaster!
How can we NOT fear such a possibility?


I´ve said it before and i hate to reminde you of the simple truth that black holes do not exist in the way hollywood told you.

Anyone into high energy physics knows that since 2014.

Youre explanation falls totally apart after that postulate.
[link to arxiv.org]

GLP physics is something you can explain and sell by a youtube video and a nice smile. There is no math needed to prove glp physics. It´s all magic and a mix of knowledge between star trek and the pyramids.

I do understand that common folks are afraid of CERN but seriously, everyone is easily brought into a state of fear if he does not have the proper education to understand the whole picture.

I do understand that it is also pretty easy to believe any author of a video/thread if the explanation is explained in a way everyone can understand.
But we are not talking about brushing youre teeth, we are talking about complex physics and mathematics that takes decades to fully learn and understand.

I am suggesting two simple methods to lower youre fear, inscribe on youre nearest University and try to reach the understanding you need to really decide if something is dangerous or not, or to simply not waste that energy in a field were you have no education and use it somewhere else.

I do not want to erase youre fear or believesystem with this post, it´s only a hint to a flawed approach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44154070


I'm sorry....but that same old "Good ole Boy Club"
crap about needing to have a math degree or some higher
education to understand the topic--here--because it
happens to "touch" your own sacred branch of science
--and we at GLP don't "qualify" to understand what we
are seeing...is RUBBISH!

Danny Wilten probably has a B.S. college degree--maybe
4 or 5 years of college to allow him to work in the
computer analyst position--He may have a Masters Degree.
...He was able to just by pattern recognition and using some sophisticated computer programs for correlation studies to discover the black hole in the Orion Nebula
and he even says several times in his videos:
YOU DON'T NEED A HIGHER DEGREE, OR AN UNDERSTANDING
OF THEORETICAL PHYSICS TO "GET THIS STUFF!"

NASA never did give him credit, of course, but his research has been up on the internet for public view--as well as for NASA's guys to intercept it--for over 3 years now.
We need to use discernment in what we watch on UTUBE and
other sources of information on the internet, of course.
It is often hip-deep in misinformation.
But to suggest that an intelligent person with even a high school education "can't understand this" is a very short-sighted view point--and a subtle "put down."
The sources that I have given on this thread, the clear explanations for what we are seeing on the "Event Horizon" of the Orion Nebula with the basics I've presented speaks for itself. It's NOT "rocket-science!"
AND...There is nothing "flawed" on this thread except maybe the point of view on who has the "right" to information about CERN in YOUR post!
Thanks for sharing though I don't agree with you.
O'sCookie


Edited later:
GLP physics is something you can explain and sell by a youtube video and a nice smile. There is no math needed to prove glp physics. It´s all magic and a mix of knowledge between star trek and the pyramids.
This statement is VASTLY short-sighted to the
many very bright and articulate GLP members who
post threads and reply to threads. To suggest that
we are all just glued to the TV screens watching
for our explanation of the sciences from "Star
Trek" is insulting and spurious.

Then, on TOP of this insult which everyone on
GLP should be enraged to read...you have the
EGOIC-GALL to put up a reference that you
already KNOW most people, even many within the
branch of science to which you claim to be such an
illustrious member would be hard-pressed to
decipher...here it is:
[link to arxiv.org]
It's basically just "blah-blah-blah-look-at
-how-much-smarter-I-am-than-You-Dumb-hick-
GLPers!"
You've got some nerve, dude!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie

Sorry that i let you feel uncomfort.
It wasn´t ment as an insult.

And you don´t have to be a member of an illustrious branch of science to read the Abstract.
You just take it for granted that i wanna be a showoff.

It shows that due to the negative energy Hawking radiation in the interior, the collapse of the star stops at a finite radius, before the singularity and the event horizon of a black hole have a chance to form.

Now this statement isn´t just hanging in the air and as i pointed out you could do the math given in the same script in contrast to many statements made on glp.

I like new and refreshing ideas but when you make statements about a complex system you should at least try to use the language of physics which is math.

I´m sorry that you felt insulted that was absolutly not my point.

Maybe youre intention was to bring out a new idea and discuss that, i was not aware of such a situation and thought you want to sell this as fact.

Let´s lay our disbute to rest. hf
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


2 points right off come to my mind.
1. You are from another country and may not be aware
of the language "nuances" which constitute a
person from this country assuming they are reading
an insult and an attempt to "put down" the GLP
reader. Your "tone" in your reply shows that you
are speaking down to your audience from a presumed
higher position, due to your acquired education.
(Maybe if you were Albert Einstein it wouldn't be
considered a "put-down" tone! lol!)
2. I have stated in my intro paragraph that this is
a "theory"--I wouldn't be so bold as to suggest that
I can defend this theory as "fact." Likewise, and
you would have to conceded this as well, this theory
can NOT be disproved either! This area of science is
so new and changing so fast (as you say certain
paradigms have changed even since 2014, which is very
recently) that all we can do is gather info and
wait for more data crunching. I saw one article that
only 1% of the data from the CERN experiments so far
have actually been "crunched" or analyzed! So they
are doing these experiments now without STOPPING to
even find out what they have found.

I don't hold any grudges about what you have said--
or how you have framed your statement...no offense
taken!

By "explaining" the article in "layman's terms" you
are just proving my original point--or your reference
in English would stand on its own and a lay person would be able to understand it. That this science even NEEDS its own language in describing in theoretical terms what goes on during a black-hole event, it pales in comparison with simple English which is explaining the photographic evidence Wilten provides very well of the Orion Images in his videos. That is why the computer correlations which he
shows DON'T require a Ph.d. to grasp. Theoretical physics has had to use math and special "language" (like your article does) to attempt to map out what Wilten's photos show with very little fuss! I SEE it...I grasp it...
There it is! lol!


The whole area of the conceptualization of "theoretical
physics" through mathematics and "special language" bumps up against a brick wall, when clearly encountering the photographic evidence of "thermalized images" from a target planet (like Earth) showing up on the Event Horizon of a black hole (as it appears to be doing in the Orion Nebula!)
This type of computer analysis of REAL thermalized images around an existing black hole based on Hubble has never
been attempted before--and I think it is spectacular!


This would be like encountering the REAL Jesus walking up the road and calling him a "fake" because he wasn't talking in original "Aramaic" with which your Ph.d. in "comparitive Religions" and the Old Testament tells you was his native tongue! Do you believe the flesh-and-blood person before your eyes, or do you hold tight to your "conceptualized" ideas from books of who this person was 2,000 years ago--and whom you have never met! That would be ridiculous!
Thanks for your post, tho! So, likewise, Wilten's "Thermalized images" from Hubble's Space Telescope which
were analyzed by computer programs say a 1,000 times MORE than a Ph.d. "thesis" on the same topic written in mathematics--or described in the "correct language of
physics" as you call it! There is your proof!
cheers
O'sCookie

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From all that I have read and heard, one must deduce that man will return to cave dwellings and all technology will be lost when such an event occurs.

We essentially push the reset button and start from day one, all over again, and again and again.

The dawn of man.
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From all that I have read and heard, one must deduce that man will return to cave dwellings and all technology will be lost when such an event occurs.

We essentially push the reset button and start from day one, all over again, and again and again.

The dawn of man.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


So...what you are saying is that humans continue
to learn and advance in their technologies (as we
have done to this point in 2015 since the last "reset
event" of 9,500 b.c, for example)...only to be
compelled to construct a device like CERN--that is
our doom!

I wouldn't say that this couldn't happen, but proving
it has happened before and that this is the scenario
that humans are "damned" to repeat would be next to
impossible. We are, of course, entering "uncharted
territory" to quote one of the CERN scientists who
was brave enough to admit his position...but that
this HAS HAPPENED BEFORE and we have survived at
some level with our technology still in tact has been
shown with Wilten's discovery--which of course, can't
be proven either!

It is all very interesting--and, sadly, we will all
be finding out sooner than later.
Thanks for your post!
Cheers!
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Wow...that passage takes on new meaning with reference
to the info in this thread, doesn't it!
Good catch! Thanks!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


that's not what the verse says

it says the earth WAS formless and empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep....
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, that's one possible interpretation.

There are others and this debate is far older than modern scientific theories.

[link to www.ucg.org]
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


well i dont subscribe to the theory of a god particle

there is no beginning
there is no end

just change

God just is.
and you can't find Him by smashing electrons

but i bet you can find all kinds of other answers
the kind that come thru doors that cannot be shut afterward
 Quoting: Salt


Neither am I.

However, that doesn't mean it hasn't been done/tried before.

Just what WAS the Tower of Babel anyway?
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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From all that I have read and heard, one must deduce that man will return to cave dwellings and all technology will be lost when such an event occurs.

We essentially push the reset button and start from day one, all over again, and again and again.

The dawn of man.
 Quoting: Loup Garou



Maybe something like this then?
(Found this on another GLP thread--seems appropriate! lol!)
Thank you to GLP's "Grumpier!"
Thread: The perfect GLP movie, come and watch it


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
FairUSE (Education/discussion

He's got the whole movie on his thread!
cheers
O'sCookie

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that's not what the verse says

it says the earth WAS formless and empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep....
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, that's one possible interpretation.

There are others and this debate is far older than modern scientific theories.

[link to www.ucg.org]
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


well i dont subscribe to the theory of a god particle

there is no beginning
there is no end

just change

God just is.
and you can't find Him by smashing electrons

but i bet you can find all kinds of other answers
the kind that come thru doors that cannot be shut afterward
 Quoting: Salt


Neither am I.

However, that doesn't mean it hasn't been done/tried before.

Just what WAS the Tower of Babel anyway?
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


I'd like to make 2 points. Nissam Haramein, one of
physic's very well-received researchers and mathematicians did a video (I'll try to find it) in which he stated that searching for the "God Particle" was an act of futility. He has also pointed out that a great deal of current physics is "flawed." So...even within their own ranks the scientists are having quite a rumble!
Secondly, The Tower of Babel, while many consider it to be just mythology is probably based in some measure of a true event or it wouldn't have lasted this long. My thinking is that the Tower of Babel was an energy system of some kind which existed in a very tall structure of some kind. It was probably confused in translation that God took exception to the BUILDING...when in fact, it was probably more like what was being done INSIDE the building--like a CERN-type collider. Obviously, by what Wilten has discovered, this whole scenario of building technologies for studying and harnessing "exotic energy" has back-fired on its creators.
cheers
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Well...here it is folks!

Here is the video where they've got Nassim Haramein
going "on record" that the "Higgs Boson" is something
that will NEVER be discovered...and that the basic
physics which CERN bases its study upon (finding the
source of "mass" in the Universe) is FLAWED! Say bye-bye
to the $10 billion the world has spent on this effort
in futility! lol!

The video is a little "choppy"--a reporter for
NEXUS is filming while he's walking from his car...
Sorry about the quality, but you can hear his
statement!


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cheers
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Ooooo Cookie how I love your threads ..
Thanks for the brilliant info my friend ..



hfhfhf
just say it as it as ..
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Ooooo Cookie how I love your threads ..
Thanks for the brilliant info my friend ..



hfhfhf
 Quoting: Chatty-Girl


You are very welcome Chatty-Girl!
I came upon this info in 2012 on a GLP thread
here. It is a little dated, but the basics
are still very important when considering
that there ARE celestial "records" now being
captured by HUBBLE Space Telescope that clearly
show (based on the the theory of "Thermalized
Images" which form at the top of black holes)
evidence of a CERN-like accident in Earth's
past. Wilten is the first analyst using computer
fractal comparisons in the Orion Nebula to find
this evidence--and it is huge!

Why this hasn't received more attention is anyone
guess. It could be that they don't want people to
know our ancient past and the "accidents" from
experiments that our ancestors fucked-up before! lol!
The good news is that we are ALL still here and
that what appears to have been affected was only
ONE time-line in Earth's history and nothing material.
(It's kind of mind-boggling--but sure interesting!)
Enjoy!
Cheers!
O'sCookie
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