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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47212814 United States 03/26/2015 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the technology, remove the unnecessary humans from the flight systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61646897 It will be safer. No cockpit, no doors or windows required. Advanced avionics and computers are much better at flying large aircraft than humans are, why are we still dependent on pilots? Believe it or not, you would be far safer flying this way, now and in the future. You clearly are not a pilot, OP and have no idea what you are talking about... Why?... Because a real pilot would never say such things that could potentially harm his career choice and livelihood. Yes? Of course, real pilots would never support such drastic changes, would they? In fact they would do almost anything to prevent theses changes. Maybe that is in part why we are still doing things the way we are now when there is a better, safer way... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55022092 United States 03/26/2015 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the technology, remove the unnecessary humans from the flight systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61646897 It will be safer. No cockpit, no doors or windows required. Advanced avionics and computers are much better at flying large aircraft than humans are, why are we still dependent on pilots? Believe it or not, you would be far safer flying this way, now and in the future. You clearly are not a pilot, OP and have no idea what you are talking about... Why?... Because a real pilot would never say such things that could potentially harm his career choice and livelihood. Yes? Of course, real pilots would never support such drastic changes, would they? In fact they would do almost anything to prevent theses changes. Maybe that is in part why we are still doing things the way we are now when there is a better, safer way... This is such foolish mentality. Of course all pilots want job security, but if you don't know what goes into piloting a plane and how crucial a human body and mind is to pilot the plane safely from take off to landing, then why make such outlandish statements? Until you've gone through extensive training from your private pilots license to Air Transport Pilot rating and have through knowledge with at least one passenger carrying aircraft, then it's ridiculous to say that a computer would be more efficient to safely carry hundreds of lives than a human mind, the most complex "computer" in the known universe. Furthermore, despite what MSM likes to have you believe with it's morbid frequent reporting of aircraft accidents, the past year has been one of the safest years in aviation history with 1 in 4.4 million flights actually being involved in a fatal accident-with human pilots. Proper training and increased standards are key to safer flights and are being implemented daily in the aviation world. |
nwo is the time User ID: 55022092 United States 03/26/2015 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: nwo is the time You clearly are not a pilot, OP and have no idea what you are talking about... Why?... Because a real pilot would never say such things that could potentially harm his career choice and livelihood. Yes? Of course, real pilots would never support such drastic changes, would they? In fact they would do almost anything to prevent theses changes. Maybe that is in part why we are still doing things the way we are now when there is a better, safer way... This is such foolish mentality. Of course all pilots want job security, but if you don't know what goes into piloting a plane and how crucial a human body and mind is to pilot the plane safely from take off to landing, then why make such outlandish statements? Until you've gone through extensive training from your private pilots license to Air Transport Pilot rating and have through knowledge with at least one passenger carrying aircraft, then it's ridiculous to say that a computer would be more efficient to safely carry hundreds of lives than a human mind, the most complex "computer" in the known universe. Furthermore, despite what MSM likes to have you believe with it's morbid frequent reporting of aircraft accidents, the past year has been one of the safest years in aviation history with only 1 in 4.4 million flights actually being involved in a fatal accident-with human pilots. Proper training and increased standards are key to safer flights and are being implemented daily in the aviation world. Last Edited by Das Kaiser on 03/26/2015 02:04 PM Chance favors the prepared mind. "The sign of an educated mind is the ability to entertain an idea without embracing it." -Aristotle |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68721746 Canada 03/26/2015 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the technology, remove the unnecessary humans from the flight systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61646897 It will be safer. No cockpit, no doors or windows required. Advanced avionics and computers are much better at flying large aircraft than humans are, why are we still dependent on pilots? Believe it or not, you would be far safer flying this way, now and in the future. Thread: Are pilotless remote controlled commercial aircraft coming next? |
The Old Timer User ID: 64134821 United States 03/26/2015 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree....and if there is any doubt.....go watch Charlie Victor Romeo.....no way would anyone want to fly without a pilot Yeah, call me old-fashioned, but there's *no* way I'm leaving the ground in a robot with no pilot. I am very sure many many air disasters have been avoided with out good pilots....I can't see a robot plane landing in a river to save lives Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40238041 United States 03/26/2015 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the technology, remove the unnecessary humans from the flight systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61646897 It will be safer. No cockpit, no doors or windows required. Advanced avionics and computers are much better at flying large aircraft than humans are, why are we still dependent on pilots? Believe it or not, you would be far safer flying this way, now and in the future. the boeing 757 has this capability already..thats why all of the aircraft on 911 were 757's |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38710786 United States 03/26/2015 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would take truly extraordinary circumstances to get me to even consider boarding a commercial flight. I would go so far as to say that I believe in having helicopters for emergency situations, but nothing else in the air. It's not natural, and it's not safe. And if I can't bring my favorite substances of choice and openly use them, I will not engage. |
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train User ID: 50674722 United States 03/26/2015 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand why there isn't a huge parachute system on commercial airplanes. Seriously. SOMETHING! Quoting: Chip They can't build a parachute strong enough to withstand an opening shock at cruise speed. If they did, all the passengers would be strawberry jam in the first class section. When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you--You know your nation is doomed. Ayn Rand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9260914 Canada 03/26/2015 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would take truly extraordinary circumstances to get me to even consider boarding a commercial flight. I would go so far as to say that I believe in having helicopters for emergency situations, but nothing else in the air. It's not natural, and it's not safe. And if I can't bring my favorite substances of choice and openly use them, I will not engage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38710786 But I'm sure you have no problem driving a car. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48411087 United States 03/26/2015 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The backup system, followed by other backup systems. All operating in a closed loop, any failures and another system takes over. Simple. Who takes over when the pilots fail now? Or when one has a bad day, or loses his mind, or is underqualified, or reads instruments incorrectly flying VIR and inverts the plane because he cant see the horizon etc, oops.. sorry no backups. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48411087 United States 03/26/2015 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand why there isn't a huge parachute system on commercial airplanes. Seriously. SOMETHING! Quoting: Chip They can't build a parachute strong enough to withstand an opening shock at cruise speed. If they did, all the passengers would be strawberry jam in the first class section. 3 to 5 Staged system like the Space Shuttle has during landing. Air brakes! Fucking AIRBAGS!!! Something! Sounds nice, but the size and weight would make it impractical. Not only that, the first time such a system deployed accidentally on take off or landing and killed all on board it would be the end of it. |
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beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 03/26/2015 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah that way the turd in the ground cockpit can crash the plane without hurting themselves. Quoting: KIT 48908174 it's people, not machinery, with evil intent. no mechanical or computerized solution will work. only a change of heart in humans. --- and I am not waiting for that. Flying is for gamblers now. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
MIgardener User ID: 2218630 Canada 03/26/2015 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree....and if there is any doubt.....go watch Charlie Victor Romeo.....no way would anyone want to fly without a pilot Yeah, call me old-fashioned, but there's *no* way I'm leaving the ground in a robot with no pilot. I am very sure many many air disasters have been avoided with out good pilots....I can't see a robot plane landing in a river to save lives There are certain things computers just can't do "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
MIgardener User ID: 2218630 Canada 03/26/2015 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The technology isn't there for complete automation. Automated systems for avoiding weather by taking input from wx radar and asking to avoid wx combined with judgement for knowing what wx will do to the aircraft in certain scenarios. Sensors to help the aircraft avoid other aircraft, obstacles, birds haven't been developed and tested. Judgement for what to do in an emergency and how to deal with compound emergencies that haven't been throught of by aircraft designers. [link to www.quora.com] "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64488921 United States 03/26/2015 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand why there isn't a huge parachute system on commercial airplanes. Seriously. SOMETHING! Quoting: Chip They can't build a parachute strong enough to withstand an opening shock at cruise speed. If they did, all the passengers would be strawberry jam in the first class section. 3 to 5 Staged system like the Space Shuttle has during landing. Air brakes! Fucking AIRBAGS!!! Something! Sounds nice, but the size and weight would make it impractical. Not only that, the first time such a system deployed accidentally on take off or landing and killed all on board it would be the end of it. Lawyers probably explained to the airlines that wrongful death payouts are like $10M. surgeries, permanent disability and care can exceed that a couple of years. Should not matter though. airlines have basically always been subsidzed by the government. then they try to go provate. then they get bailouts. |
-VonAmoR- User ID: 65391761 United States 03/26/2015 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not have the aircraft detach all wings, leaving only the cabin, crew and passengers safe in a capsule that deploys large parachutes. Quoting: -VonAmoR- At least bring the velocity down increasing chance for survival. Something like an emergency ejection system for commercial aircraft. It would need to be fail safe, not trigger on accident. Even if it did, the souls on board should survive. If it works as it should. think of the size and the number of the chutes needed to slow something of this size down to just the point where there are no injuries on landing/impact retro rockets, using wings to slow things down.... Point is, we all discuss software technologies and ignore hardware technologies. The idea is not as far fetched as seat belting ourselves to an aluminum shed with wings full of fuel. |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 3515193 United States 03/26/2015 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree....and if there is any doubt.....go watch Charlie Victor Romeo.....no way would anyone want to fly without a pilot Yeah, call me old-fashioned, but there's *no* way I'm leaving the ground in a robot with no pilot. I am very sure many many air disasters have been avoided with out good pilots....I can't see a robot plane landing in a river to save lives I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
EVERYTHING BURNS! User ID: 62179665 United States 03/26/2015 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the technology, remove the unnecessary humans from the flight systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61646897 It will be safer. No cockpit, no doors or windows required. Advanced avionics and computers are much better at flying large aircraft than humans are, why are we still dependent on pilots? Believe it or not, you would be far safer flying this way, now and in the future. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57205020 United States 03/26/2015 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand why there isn't a huge parachute system on commercial airplanes. Seriously. SOMETHING! Quoting: Chip They can't build a parachute strong enough to withstand an opening shock at cruise speed. If they did, all the passengers would be strawberry jam in the first class section. i guess if there was enough altitude, a drag chute from the tail to slow it down first, then multiple large top chutes... |