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Surprised this Administration hasn't come out and blamed this on workplace violence!

Like that Army officer who went unhinged, Hassan. They tried to deny that was terrorism.
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Co-Pilot war Patient der Uni-Klinik Düsseldorf
Andreas L. sei zwar dort in Behandlung gewesen, jedoch nicht wegen Depressionen, teilt die Klinik mit. Trauergottesdienst in Düsseldorf.


Paris/Düsseldorf/Seyne-les-Alpes/Hamburg. Die nächste dramatische Erkenntnis zum Absturz von Flug 4U 9525: Der Co-Pilot der abgestürzten Germanwings-Maschine hat nach Darstellung der Ermittler eine Erkrankung verheimlicht. Die Staatsanwaltschaft Düsseldorf fand in der Wohnung des 27-Jährigen eine zerrissene Krankschreibung für den Absturztag. Das teilte die Behörde am Freitag in einer Pressemitteilung mit. Weder sei ein Abschiedsbrief noch ein Bekennerschreiben gefunden worden.

link: [link to www.abendblatt.de]
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He was NOT in treatment for Depression!

He was being treated currently at the University Klinik in Duesseldorf.


but they say explicitly not for depression.
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It was NOT depression. narrows the field a bit.
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Does that Klinik specialize in something? Islamofascism?

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World exclusive: one of Mohamed Atta's closest friends worked for the CIA as a pilot!
Thread: World exclusive: one of Mohamed Atta's closest friends worked for the CIA as a pilot!

since this thread is simply speculation, maybe it was this atta buddy guy ... LOLOLOLOL
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I know not many GLPers speak or read German. It is a total saturation of news about the town that lost 16 high school students and 2 teachers, about the flying club he belonged to, about the changes coming to flight deck rules.

but nothing in the German MSM about his having any girlfriend.
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He looks like a raging homo to me
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UPDATE TODAY PAGE 6 - HE WAS NOT BEING TREATED FOR DEPRESSION, ACCORDING TO THE UNIVERSTY KLINIK IN DUESSELDORF WHERE HE WAS A PATIENT

This was posted in Firewatch's thread, but I do not want to make that thread only about this connection.

Was he a convert? Yes, according to this link:



According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he - as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York - received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

I speak and read German, and I have been looking at news sources like the Rheinische Post (the newspaper in the Duesseldorf area he lived in) and the Hamburger Abendblatt - they went into HUGE detail about all aspects of his life except a possible girlfriend - hmmm, Germans usually like to talk about relationships - and any religious affiliation he had.

His parents were counseled by a Protestant minister, was in one article. So presumably he was raised as a nominal Christian, at least.

it is very hard to link to anything about his converting. no links work. I felt glad to find this.
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Stop spreading your propaganda...and editing any post you find to question your authority of the situation and german people. Since you have no idea on either.

Your an ethnocentric retard that has no clue to other cultures or people.
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[link to www.slate.com]

Andreas Lubitz Didn’t Commit Suicide.

It was mass murder!
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UPDATE TODAY PAGE 6 - HE WAS NOT BEING TREATED FOR DEPRESSION, ACCORDING TO THE UNIVERSTY KLINIK IN DUESSELDORF WHERE HE WAS A PATIENT

This was posted in Firewatch's thread, but I do not want to make that thread only about this connection.

Was he a convert? Yes, according to this link:



According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he - as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York - received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

I speak and read German, and I have been looking at news sources like the Rheinische Post (the newspaper in the Duesseldorf area he lived in) and the Hamburger Abendblatt - they went into HUGE detail about all aspects of his life except a possible girlfriend - hmmm, Germans usually like to talk about relationships - and any religious affiliation he had.

His parents were counseled by a Protestant minister, was in one article. So presumably he was raised as a nominal Christian, at least.

it is very hard to link to anything about his converting. no links work. I felt glad to find this.
 Quoting: beeches

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Stop spreading your propaganda...and editing any post you find to question your authority of the situation and german people. Since you have no idea on either.

Your an ethnocentric retard that has no clue to other cultures or people.
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I don't edit posts.

people's rabid defense of is-slime speaks for itself.

why would I edit perfection?
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learn manners, Deutscher, your irritation is not attractive.

1. les die Informationen, entcheide, ob die glaubwuerdig sind, und dann wuerde ich liebend gerne mit Dir die Tatsachen diskutieren.

2. Was liesst Du heute in Deiner Zeitung?
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Was für Tatsachen denn? Was ich in deinem Link sehe, ist eine Facebook-Seite, die jeder 14-jährige erstellen kann, was genau beweist dieser Screenshot denn? Im Text oben sind lauter Anschuldigungen, aber es wird nicht eine einzige Quelle angegeben - wie kann man den Mainstream-Medien vorwerfen, unsauber zu arbeiten, wenn man solch einen Käse als Beweis ansieht?

Auf deine zweite Frage kann ich dir nicht antworten, da ich nicht weiß, worauf du hinaus willst.

Jetzt würde ich gerne eine Antwort von dir hören. Bitte, zeig mir dir Tatsachen, zeig mir die Beweise.
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You d
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learn manners, Deutscher, your irritation is not attractive.

1. les die Informationen, entcheide, ob die glaubwuerdig sind, und dann wuerde ich liebend gerne mit Dir die Tatsachen diskutieren.

2. Was liesst Du heute in Deiner Zeitung?
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Was für Tatsachen denn? Was ich in deinem Link sehe, ist eine Facebook-Seite, die jeder 14-jährige erstellen kann, was genau beweist dieser Screenshot denn? Im Text oben sind lauter Anschuldigungen, aber es wird nicht eine einzige Quelle angegeben - wie kann man den Mainstream-Medien vorwerfen, unsauber zu arbeiten, wenn man solch einen Käse als Beweis ansieht?

Auf deine zweite Frage kann ich dir nicht antworten, da ich nicht weiß, worauf du hinaus willst.

Jetzt würde ich gerne eine Antwort von dir hören. Bitte, zeig mir dir Tatsachen, zeig mir die Beweise.
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From page 5!
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HERE IS THE TRUTH...Even A Muslim Can Understand:

[link to www.jewsnews.co.il]

There’s a lot of controversy surrounding the details of the Germanwings crash. One thing is for certain, a suicide is NOT the crashing of an airliner into the ground with hundreds of lives on board, that is mass murder/terrorism.

The motive is unclear, however, the more we learn about the co pilot, the clearer it is becoming to look like Islamic terrorism. However, the politically correct news wont say that, but I will.

Muslims are already coming out to praise the jihad:
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learn manners, Deutscher, your irritation is not attractive.

1. les die Informationen, entcheide, ob die glaubwuerdig sind, und dann wuerde ich liebend gerne mit Dir die Tatsachen diskutieren.

2. Was liesst Du heute in Deiner Zeitung?
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Was für Tatsachen denn? Was ich in deinem Link sehe, ist eine Facebook-Seite, die jeder 14-jährige erstellen kann, was genau beweist dieser Screenshot denn? Im Text oben sind lauter Anschuldigungen, aber es wird nicht eine einzige Quelle angegeben - wie kann man den Mainstream-Medien vorwerfen, unsauber zu arbeiten, wenn man solch einen Käse als Beweis ansieht?

Auf deine zweite Frage kann ich dir nicht antworten, da ich nicht weiß, worauf du hinaus willst.

Jetzt würde ich gerne eine Antwort von dir hören. Bitte, zeig mir dir Tatsachen, zeig mir die Beweise.
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From page 5!
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Let me explain it to you:

the second question has to do with the fact that you have access to information and opinion in German in Germany that I or others do not have.

I can read stuff posted online, but that is FAR from all the information available on the ground.

So what are you hearing, seeing, experiencing? Share it here with a link if possible!


the most chilling detail I learned is that the 16 school students murdered were selected by lottery to be on the flight.
So many students wanted to go, the Gymnasium (German high school for college-bound students) had a lottery.

then they almost missed the plane.

now that kind of detail is what I think you can find, and add here, if you wish.
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yet another oddity from the ticker:


6.12 Uhr: Der ausgesperrte Pilot der verunglückten Germanwings-Maschine hat einem Bericht zufolge offenbar wenige Minuten vor dem Aufprall noch versucht, die Tür zum Cockpit mit einer Axt zu öffnen. Wie die "Bild"-Zeitung vom Freitag unter Berufung auf Sicherheitskreise berichtete, nutzte er dafür eine an Bord befindliche Notfall-Axt, um in das geschlossene Cockpit zurückzugelangen. Sein Ziel sei es gewesen, den Sinkflug zu stoppen, berichtete die Zeitung.

"Zu der Sicherheitsausrüstung eines A320 gehört auch eine Axt", sagte eine Germanwings-Sprecherin der Zeitung. Nach den Anschlägen vom 11. September 2001 in den USA waren die Cockpit-Türen in Flugzeugen massiv verstärkt und mit einem Code versehen worden, um unbefugtes Personal fernzuhalten. Bis dahin war es möglich, die Türen im Notfall mit der Axt einzuschlagen.


link: [link to www.abendblatt.de]


they have onboard an ax, for use in emergency situations. The pilot used the ax in his attempt to break down the cockpit door.

They say it has worked before - opened the door.

they do NOT say whether that was in tests on the ground or in flight.
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@OP @beeches

learn manners, Deutscher, your irritation is not attractive.

1. les die Informationen, entcheide, ob die glaubwuerdig sind, und dann wuerde ich liebend gerne mit Dir die Tatsachen diskutieren.

2. Was liesst Du heute in Deiner Zeitung?
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Was für Tatsachen denn? Was ich in deinem Link sehe, ist eine Facebook-Seite, die jeder 14-jährige erstellen kann, was genau beweist dieser Screenshot denn? Im Text oben sind lauter Anschuldigungen, aber es wird nicht eine einzige Quelle angegeben - wie kann man den Mainstream-Medien vorwerfen, unsauber zu arbeiten, wenn man solch einen Käse als Beweis ansieht?

Auf deine zweite Frage kann ich dir nicht antworten, da ich nicht weiß, worauf du hinaus willst.

Jetzt würde ich gerne eine Antwort von dir hören. Bitte, zeig mir dir Tatsachen, zeig mir die Beweise.
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From page 5!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68718703


Let me explain it to you:

the second question has to do with the fact that you have access to information and opinion in German in Germany that I or others do not have.

I can read stuff posted online, but that is FAR from all the information available on the ground.

So what are you hearing, seeing, experiencing? Share it here with a link if possible!


the most chilling detail I learned is that the 16 school students murdered were selected by lottery to be on the flight.
So many students wanted to go, the Gymnasium (German high school for college-bound students) had a lottery.

then they almost missed the plane.

now that kind of detail is what I think you can find, and add here, if you wish.
 Quoting: beeches


Wow, why should you answer the most important questions, when you can write a book, about the other!? I would like you to answer my german questions. You act very self-assured, even though you delievered no useful information. So I ask you again:

Was beweist dieser Facebook-Screenshot? Was beweist eine neu erstellte Facebook-Seite, die von jedem 14-jährigen, der Langeweile hat, angefertigt werden kann? Was beweist diese Seite?

Welche Quellen liegen all diesen Anschuldigungen auf deiner verlinkten Seite zugrunde? Woher WISSEN wir, das er zum Islam konvertierte? Woher WISSEN wir, das er Moscheen besucht hat und dort radikalisiert wurde?

Zwischen WISSEN und GLAUBEN gibt es einen gigantischen Unterschied!
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UPDATE TODAY PAGE 6 - HE WAS NOT BEING TREATED FOR DEPRESSION, ACCORDING TO THE UNIVERSTY KLINIK IN DUESSELDORF WHERE HE WAS A PATIENT

This was posted in Firewatch's thread, but I do not want to make that thread only about this connection.

Was he a convert? Yes, according to this link:



According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he - as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York - received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

I speak and read German, and I have been looking at news sources like the Rheinische Post (the newspaper in the Duesseldorf area he lived in) and the Hamburger Abendblatt - they went into HUGE detail about all aspects of his life except a possible girlfriend - hmmm, Germans usually like to talk about relationships - and any religious affiliation he had.

His parents were counseled by a Protestant minister, was in one article. So presumably he was raised as a nominal Christian, at least.

it is very hard to link to anything about his converting. no links work. I felt glad to find this.
 Quoting: beeches

 Quoting: beeches


Stop spreading your propaganda...and editing any post you find to question your authority of the situation and german people. Since you have no idea on either.

Your an ethnocentric retard that has no clue to other cultures or people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63771407


I don't edit posts.

people's rabid defense of is-slime speaks for itself.

why would I edit perfection?
 Quoting: beeches


Ha it wasn't a rabid defense of Islam and it certainly wasn't a condemnation, witch hunt either. I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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Nach den Anschlägen vom 11. September 2001 in den USA waren die Cockpit-Türen in Flugzeugen massiv verstärkt und mit einem Code versehen worden, um unbefugtes Personal fernzuhalten. Bis dahin war es möglich, die Türen im Notfall mit der Axt einzuschlagen.


link: [link to www.abendblatt.de]


they have onboard an ax, for use in emergency situations. The pilot used the ax in his attempt to break down the cockpit door.

They say it has worked before - opened the door.

they do NOT say whether that was in tests on the ground or in flight.
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When you can not translate it right, than don't do it.

It worked before 9/11!!
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Stop spreading your propaganda...and editing any post you find to question your authority of the situation and german people. Since you have no idea on either.

Your an ethnocentric retard that has no clue to other cultures or people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63771407


I don't edit posts.

people's rabid defense of is-slime speaks for itself.

why would I edit perfection?
 Quoting: beeches


Ha it wasn't a rabid defense of Islam and it certainly wasn't a condemnation, witch hunt either. I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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I lived in Germany neck on neck with Gastarbeiter for a decade or longer.

nothing new for me except the all-too-prevalent am Deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen attitude.

for the rest of us: a popular German saying -

German ways will heal the world.
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Stop spreading your propaganda...and editing any post you find to question your authority of the situation and german people. Since you have no idea on either.

Your an ethnocentric retard that has no clue to other cultures or people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63771407


I don't edit posts.

people's rabid defense of is-slime speaks for itself.

why would I edit perfection?
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Ha it wasn't a rabid defense of Islam and it certainly wasn't a condemnation, witch hunt either. I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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I lived in Germany neck on neck with Gastarbeiter for a decade or longer.

nothing new for me except the all-too-prevalent am Deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen attitude.

for the rest of us: a popular German saying -

German ways will heal the world.
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Yeah right! We've seen how that works already... not so well.

:bushhitler:
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Link, or bsflag


Seeing that it's a beeches thread, gonna go with bsflag
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Go extinct, vermin.

5stars OP, we all knew it.
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I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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And once again, Germany is about to learn how completely fucked up it is.

Your nation has a karmic debt that you never paid.

You will, though.

Your nation will become a concentration camp, with the Muslims as the Nazis, and every German a Jew.
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Link, or bsflag


Seeing that it's a beeches thread, gonna go with bsflag
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Go extinct, vermin.

5stars OP, we all knew it.
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yeah, we did. and do. hf

It may never make the msm, but it will come out.
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I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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And once again, Germany is about to learn how completely fucked up it is.

Your nation has a karmic debt that you never paid.

You will, though.

Your nation will become a concentration camp, with the Muslims as the Nazis, and every German a Jew.
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:Spiderbullshit:
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I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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And once again, Germany is about to learn how completely fucked up it is.

Your nation has a karmic debt that you never paid.

You will, though.

Your nation will become a concentration camp, with the Muslims as the Nazis, and every German a Jew.
 Quoting: Painful Truth



I agree. The first German joke I learned about the guest workers in Germany from Turkey:


Q - What is the difference between a Jew and a Turk?

A - The Jews have it behind them, the Turks have it ahead of them.




so much for the wonderful inclusive society one "German" would like us to believe in.
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@OP @beeches

Was beweist dieser Facebook-Screenshot? Was beweist eine neu erstellte Facebook-Seite, die von jedem 14-jährigen, der Langeweile hat, angefertigt werden kann? Was beweist diese Seite?

Welche Quellen liegen all diesen Anschuldigungen auf deiner verlinkten Seite zugrunde? Woher WISSEN wir, das er zum Islam konvertierte? Woher WISSEN wir, das er Moscheen besucht hat und dort radikalisiert wurde?

Zwischen WISSEN und GLAUBEN gibt es einen gigantischen Unterschied!
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Here, you forgot to answer me.
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I was letting you know that what you think as an American doesn't hold true to what we think as a German.
We don't fear Muslims as you do, they have worked in our country as guest workers after WW2 and have since been assimilated into our country so to think that a so called 911 would do anything is wrong it's not the same circumstances nor country nor people. Let it go.
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And once again, Germany is about to learn how completely fucked up it is.

Your nation has a karmic debt that you never paid.

You will, though.

Your nation will become a concentration camp, with the Muslims as the Nazis, and every German a Jew.
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Painfully retarded yank.
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I hear it's a fake.
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When I create a page like this, does this mean, that Lubitz was a muslim?!
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@OP @beeches

Was beweist dieser Facebook-Screenshot? Was beweist eine neu erstellte Facebook-Seite, die von jedem 14-jährigen, der Langeweile hat, angefertigt werden kann? Was beweist diese Seite?

Welche Quellen liegen all diesen Anschuldigungen auf deiner verlinkten Seite zugrunde? Woher WISSEN wir, das er zum Islam konvertierte? Woher WISSEN wir, das er Moscheen besucht hat und dort radikalisiert wurde?

Zwischen WISSEN und GLAUBEN gibt es einen gigantischen Unterschied!
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Here, you forgot to answer me.
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find your own answers - the net is free - if mine did not suit you.


links appreciated with your posts.
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This was posted in Firewatch's thread, but I do not want to make that thread only about this connection.

Was he a convert? Yes, according to this link:



According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he - as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York - received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

I speak and read German, and I have been looking at news sources like the Rheinische Post (the newspaper in the Duesseldorf area he lived in) and the Hamburger Abendblatt - they went into HUGE detail about all aspects of his life except a possible girlfriend - hmmm, Germans usually like to talk about relationships - and any religious affiliation he had.

His parents were counseled by a Protestant minister, was in one article. So presumably he was raised as a nominal Christian, at least.

it is very hard to link to anything about his converting. no links work. I felt glad to find this.
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Proof or fuck off
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The proof is in the Tomato, Andy!





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