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Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits

 
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absolute bs.
that plane has flown 100's of millions of miles.
there are thousands of them flying 24/7.
They're very safe.
I don't like them for other reasons, but they are
a workhorse mover of people with a stellar record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


ALL airliners are very safe.

Until they crash.

Most cars and trucks are too.

Millions of miles traveled, workhorse movers of people.

Until something goes wrong.

And then people die.

If these crashes are caused by a mechanical problem, and not by human error, wouldn't you prefer to find out the real cause of the crash, instead of having it happen again? And again?

Yes or no.
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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
I listened to all of this video and It just hit
me like: "THIS IS IT." This is what happened!

One pilot who is being interviewed on this video explains
that the TCP (5% in most jet liner oil) which contaminated
the cabin air supply was so strong that it paralyzed him. He was lucky to even get his oxygen mask on his face--luckily the co-pilot took over and they turned around and went back. A stewardess is interviewed and says that just ONE exposure in one of the "toxic episodes" has given her life-long affects very much like Parkinson's as TCP is a neurotoxin.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Please take the time to watch this! This is an amazing
piece of the puzzle, OP. Thank you.

It is so sad that they are hanging this whole thing on the co-pilot when it is obviously just one more case of the "bleed-air" TCP contamination. If the contamination was potent enough it is not beyond possibility that the Captain
who left the cockpit was leaving to THROW UP, not to
go to the toilet! That left a paralyzed co-pilot at
in the cockpit with a stuck door and since he couldn't
even move...that was was the whole deal about the door.
It also explains why no Mayday calls, and no cell phone communications from any of the victims--they were all
unconscious before they even hit the mountain. Incredible.

Remember to follow the money. If the airlines can pin
this crash on a 'crazy pilot' rather than a technical
"bleed-air/PCP" contamination in the plane, they will be
off the hook for millions in insurance settlements to the
victims families. ALSO...if this part of the story really gets out and is grasped by the public there won't be ONE passenger flying on their airlines. The stakes are incredibly high in this--and the reputation of one pilot is NOT beyond their vision of collateral damage!
Wow...what a drama!

BeThere

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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
absolute bs.
that plane has flown 100's of millions of miles.
there are thousands of them flying 24/7.
They're very safe.
I don't like them for other reasons, but they are
a workhorse mover of people with a stellar record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


ALL airliners are very safe.

Until they crash.

Most cars and trucks are too.

Millions of miles traveled, workhorse movers of people.

Until something goes wrong.

And then people die.

If these crashes are caused by a mechanical problem, and not by human error, wouldn't you prefer to find out the real cause of the crash, instead of having it happen again? And again?

Yes or no.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68733555


Not true.
Before you were born there were notorious airliners that were Corvair of airliners.
The Corvair was before your time also I guess.
Unsafe at Any Speed
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
And there was the Ford Pinto.

The De havilland Comet was a fatally flawed aircraft
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And more recently the DC-10 had design problems.
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If it ain't a BOEING I'm not GOING !
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They both operate with bleed air mr. stupid....
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I'm well aware of that.
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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
absolute bs.
that plane has flown 100's of millions of miles.
there are thousands of them flying 24/7.
They're very safe.
I don't like them for other reasons, but they are
a workhorse mover of people with a stellar record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


ALL airliners are very safe.

Until they crash.

Most cars and trucks are too.

Millions of miles traveled, workhorse movers of people.

Until something goes wrong.

And then people die.

If these crashes are caused by a mechanical problem, and not by human error, wouldn't you prefer to find out the real cause of the crash, instead of having it happen again? And again?

Yes or no.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68733555


Not true.
Before you were born there were notorious airliners that were Corvair of airliners.
The Corvair was before your time also I guess.
Unsafe at Any Speed
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
And there was the Ford Pinto.

The De havilland Comet was a fatally flawed aircraft
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And more recently the DC-10 had design problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


I was born in 1953. So yeah, I'm aware of that.

How long did it take before GM admitted that the Corvair was unsafe?

Or that the Pinto gas tank had a penchant for exploding?

GM and Ford both tried to blame the owners of these cars for the accidents and deaths caused by their sloppy engineering. They did it for years before they finally admitted the truth.

Toyota tried to blame a recent spate of deaths on drivers confusing the gas pedal with the brake.

The default mode for these companies was to blame the drivers of their cars for the problems. Not their own engineering department.

In this latest case, maybe Airbus is trying to do the same thing.

There's no insurance payout on a deliberate criminal act by the pilot.

Not so with a mechanical problem caused by the Airbus corporation.
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03/27/2015 05:30 PM
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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
I listened to all of this video and It just hit
me like: "THIS IS IT." This is what happened!

One pilot who is being interviewed on this video explains
that the TCP (5% in most jet liner oil) which contaminated
the cabin air supply was so strong that it paralyzed him. He was lucky to even get his oxygen mask on his face--luckily the co-pilot took over and they turned around and went back. A stewardess is interviewed and says that just ONE exposure in one of the "toxic episodes" has given her life-long affects very much like Parkinson's as TCP is a neurotoxin.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Please take the time to watch this! This is an amazing
piece of the puzzle, OP. Thank you.

It is so sad that they are hanging this whole thing on the co-pilot when it is obviously just one more case of the "bleed-air" TCP contamination. If the contamination was potent enough it is not beyond possibility that the Captain
who left the cockpit was leaving to THROW UP, not to
go to the toilet! That left a paralyzed co-pilot at
in the cockpit with a stuck door and since he couldn't
even move...that was was the whole deal about the door.
It also explains why no Mayday calls, and no cell phone communications from any of the victims--they were all
unconscious before they even hit the mountain. Incredible.

Remember to follow the money. If the airlines can pin
this crash on a 'crazy pilot' rather than a technical
"bleed-air/PCP" contamination in the plane, they will be
off the hook for millions in insurance settlements to the
victims families. ALSO...if this part of the story really gets out and is grasped by the public there won't be ONE passenger flying on their airlines. The stakes are incredibly high in this--and the reputation of one pilot is NOT beyond their vision of collateral damage!
Wow...what a drama!

BeThere
 Quoting: BeThereNow



It seems plausible that the cabin was hit by this toxic gas, but not that the entire cabin was filled with it and rendered all 150 unconscious simultaneously.

But you do raise an interesting point: even in the official scenario, and even if passengers didn't realise what was happening until the last minute, you would expect some phone calls to be made.
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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
absolute bs.
that plane has flown 100's of millions of miles.
there are thousands of them flying 24/7.
They're very safe.
I don't like them for other reasons, but they are
a workhorse mover of people with a stellar record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


ALL airliners are very safe.

Until they crash.

Most cars and trucks are too.

Millions of miles traveled, workhorse movers of people.

Until something goes wrong.

And then people die.

If these crashes are caused by a mechanical problem, and not by human error, wouldn't you prefer to find out the real cause of the crash, instead of having it happen again? And again?

Yes or no.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68733555


Not true.
Before you were born there were notorious airliners that were Corvair of airliners.
The Corvair was before your time also I guess.
Unsafe at Any Speed
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
And there was the Ford Pinto.

The De havilland Comet was a fatally flawed aircraft
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And more recently the DC-10 had design problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59737592


I was born in 1953. So yeah, I'm aware of that.

How long did it take before GM admitted that the Corvair was unsafe?

Or that the Pinto gas tank had a penchant for exploding?

GM and Ford both tried to blame the owners of these cars for the accidents and deaths caused by their sloppy engineering. They did it for years before they finally admitted the truth.

Toyota tried to blame a recent spate of deaths on drivers confusing the gas pedal with the brake.

The default mode for these companies was to blame the drivers of their cars for the problems. Not their own engineering department.

In this latest case, maybe Airbus is trying to do the same thing.

There's no insurance payout on a deliberate criminal act by the pilot.

Not so with a mechanical problem caused by the Airbus corporation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68733555


To add to the above don't forget the long drawn out lawsuit between Ford and Firestone over the rollover's affecting the Ford Explorers.

Ford blaming Firestone for their tires causing the rollover's when in fact it came out in court that Ford "knowingly" produced this model when the road testing results proved this model was prone to rollover's due to a design flaw.

The Explorers wheelbase was to narrow! And how many people died or were injured because of Ford's corporate GREED!

It's always money (profits) before people(suffering).

Nothing will ever change unless people "in mass" DEMAND change!

Remember this the next time you purchase a airline ticket for you or a loved one.
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03/27/2015 09:15 PM

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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
QUICK! BLAME IT ON THE PILOT!

BEFORE THE SHAREHOLDERS GET WIND OF IT!

scared
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They already said he was depress and GF issues!!

problem and quick solution !!

Sick !!
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Re: Flight 9525: Are France & Germany Covering Airbus Technical Faults? A320 Is Known For Emitting Toxic Nerve Gases Into Cockpits
Simple Google Airbus toxic cockpit

You will find pAges & pages of this stuff, pilots removed to amulance, paralyzed, knocked out, flight crews, passengers sick, toxic clouds, court cases, permanant disabilitys.. Years! Many started coming out 2007.





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