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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52524426 “I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia. Also remember that China now has 50% stake in Russia's oil and gas reserves. [link to rt.com] World's leading Arms exporter: 1) US Followed closely by 2) Russia And thirdly 3) China However Russia and China will surpass US by 2017 as per experts. Russia and China are buying gold as if there is no tomorrow. Economic experts believe China's yuan will become a global currency backed by gold replacing the dominance of the US dollar in few months time. Russia is finished. Putin killed it. The ruble has collapsed and GDP is in freefall. China can't ever build it's own aircraft carriers and Russia has to ask the French to build military ships. Why on earth would you try and believe (whatever about China) that Russia is not disappearing up its own ass? It's ranked equal with Nigeria and there has been a political murder right in front of the kremlin. It's on the way to the third world not top power. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is the single biggest news story people should be following right now. In a few short years, this new bank will shift the tide of power on this planet. The dollar may weaken and crumble to the point of utter uselessness. By 2020, America will be unrecognizable. I have no idea what the descent will look like -- but it will be rapid and ugly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52524426 “I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia. Also remember that China now has 50% stake in Russia's oil and gas reserves. [link to rt.com] World's leading Arms exporter: 1) US Followed closely by 2) Russia And thirdly 3) China However Russia and China will surpass US by 2017 as per experts. Russia and China are buying gold as if there is no tomorrow. Economic experts believe China's yuan will become a global currency backed by gold replacing the dominance of the US dollar in few months time. Russia is finished. Putin killed it. The ruble has collapsed and GDP is in freefall. China can't ever build it's own aircraft carriers and Russia has to ask the French to build military ships. Why on earth would you try and believe (whatever about China) that Russia is not disappearing up its own ass? It's ranked equal with Nigeria and there has been a political murder right in front of the kremlin. It's on the way to the third world not top power. Who owns the reserve currency? That is the most important question to ask. The U.S. Dollar holding global reserve status for the past 40 years is what really catapulted this country to levels of wealth unheard of -- ESPECIALLY wealth that benefited our DOD - the country that has the global reserve currency is the one that needs the best military to enforce the status quo globally. Once the Chinese Yuan achieves global reserve status, you will see China's military soar and advance at a pace that will blow your mind. Russia will also benefit from this since they are part of the new China led bank. The dollar and the U.S. will become meager. America is the next USSR -- an enormous country on the verge of total internal collapse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52524426 “I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia. Also remember that China now has 50% stake in Russia's oil and gas reserves. [link to rt.com] World's leading Arms exporter: 1) US Followed closely by 2) Russia And thirdly 3) China However Russia and China will surpass US by 2017 as per experts. Russia and China are buying gold as if there is no tomorrow. Economic experts believe China's yuan will become a global currency backed by gold replacing the dominance of the US dollar in few months time. Russia is finished. Putin killed it. The ruble has collapsed and GDP is in freefall. China can't ever build it's own aircraft carriers and Russia has to ask the French to build military ships. Why on earth would you try and believe (whatever about China) that Russia is not disappearing up its own ass? It's ranked equal with Nigeria and there has been a political murder right in front of the kremlin. It's on the way to the third world not top power. Who owns the reserve currency? That is the most important question to ask. The U.S. Dollar holding global reserve status for the past 40 years is what really catapulted this country to levels of wealth unheard of -- ESPECIALLY wealth that benefited our DOD - the country that has the global reserve currency is the one that needs the best military to enforce the status quo globally. Once the Chinese Yuan achieves global reserve status, you will see China's military soar and advance at a pace that will blow your mind. Russia will also benefit from this since they are part of the new China led bank. The dollar and the U.S. will become meager. America is the next USSR -- an enormous country on the verge of total internal collapse. The USSR collapsed because it was based on a command economy which was utterly moronic. China may rise yes but the point I was making is that Russia is done, it is on apar with Nigeria in corruption ratings has a retarded third world energy export economy and the only thing it ranks globally in making is second rate weapons.... The ruble is in freefall. Russian GDP is imploding And Putin has started to go full blown nuts. Russia is done. I'd be surprised if theer was even a place called Russia in 50 years....their demographics are appaling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. An china can't lit a finger except send its one aging second hand Russian aircraft carrier off to be sunk. The EU an US economy combined dwarfs chinas and will for 50 years............ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40117249 Netherlands 03/28/2015 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. An china can't lit a finger except send its one aging second hand Russian aircraft carrier off to be sunk. The EU an US economy combined dwarfs chinas and will for 50 years............ You're delusional... I see you're from Ireland, it must be lack of sun... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. Your missing the entire point. Once Russia and China are financially allied - there is no such thing as a stand alone Russia anymore. You have to think outside the box -- an Asian hegemony is rising where China and Russia will dominate the globe much the way the US has for the past 70 years. China's currency will have reserve status - which means the value of that currency will increase ten thousandfold in the coming years. I wouldn't be surprised if China started funding Russia's military so they can use the Russian military as their expeditionary global enforcers.... Much like the US military has been doing in recent decades. China can spare it's own military and people, while the country gets insanely wealthy. Russia will build wealth through building its military. This is actually a VERY formidable partnership. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Wow, I completely forgot about India. They will join this new financial Union also. For all the problems India has, they are still an enormous country full of MANY very bright people. I see India making major contributions toward a Pan-Asian supremacy.... Especially in the fields of engineering and computer science. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. Your missing the entire point. Once Russia and China are financially allied - there is no such thing as a stand alone Russia anymore. You have to think outside the box -- an Asian hegemony is rising where China and Russia will dominate the globe much the way the US has for the past 70 years. China's currency will have reserve status - which means the value of that currency will increase ten thousandfold in the coming years. I wouldn't be surprised if China started funding Russia's military so they can use the Russian military as their expeditionary global enforcers.... Much like the US military has been doing in recent decades. China can spare it's own military and people, while the country gets insanely wealthy. Russia will build wealth through building its military. This is actually a VERY formidable partnership. It's the unrealistic pipedream of drunks in the kremlin who can't even deal with a fall in oil prices. Here's one for you - why won't china attack a weak and pathetic Russia with which it has a history of conflict? After all the Chinese hav not actually demonstrated in any way that they give a toss about russias imperial dreams. Sino Soviet war....remember? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. Your missing the entire point. Once Russia and China are financially allied - there is no such thing as a stand alone Russia anymore. You have to think outside the box -- an Asian hegemony is rising where China and Russia will dominate the globe much the way the US has for the past 70 years. China's currency will have reserve status - which means the value of that currency will increase ten thousandfold in the coming years. I wouldn't be surprised if China started funding Russia's military so they can use the Russian military as their expeditionary global enforcers.... Much like the US military has been doing in recent decades. China can spare it's own military and people, while the country gets insanely wealthy. Russia will build wealth through building its military. This is actually a VERY formidable partnership. It's the unrealistic pipedream of drunks in the kremlin who can't even deal with a fall in oil prices. Here's one for you - why won't china attack a weak and pathetic Russia with which it has a history of conflict? After all the Chinese hav not actually demonstrated in any way that they give a toss about russias imperial dreams. Sino Soviet war....remember? China needs land. Russia has land. The Russians hate the US and EU, china has export trade with both. China invades and takes a chunk of Russia after underpayingf or natural gas and the rest of the world tells Russia they don't give a toss when they ask for aid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? |
JustChilling User ID: 67790386 United States 03/28/2015 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52524426 “I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia. Also remember that China now has 50% stake in Russia's oil and gas reserves. [link to rt.com] World's leading Arms exporter: 1) US Followed closely by 2) Russia And thirdly 3) China However Russia and China will surpass US by 2017 as per experts. Russia and China are buying gold as if there is no tomorrow. Economic experts believe China's yuan will become a global currency backed by gold replacing the dominance of the US dollar in few months time. They out Jew'd the Jews. Who wouldn't want 'Sound Money' Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? Even better smile make Russia financially dependent and then take their land. China is happy. The west is happy. Everyone high fives. Russia ceases to be and is divided up between the EU, Chin and US. Putin is an idiot who is out of his league. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? Two things: 1) China needs to prepare for what happens when the West goes broke. We won't be buying their crap when we're all too busy trying to buy a gallon of milk for $47. 2) China will use Russia's military as an expeditionary force to maintain order and control in all of Europe. The Chinese have learned from the US how perpetual war wears down a country. They will fund Russia's military and let Russia bear the strain of being international enforcer. Russia will gladly accept. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52524426 “I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia. Also remember that China now has 50% stake in Russia's oil and gas reserves. [link to rt.com] World's leading Arms exporter: 1) US Followed closely by 2) Russia And thirdly 3) China However Russia and China will surpass US by 2017 as per experts. Russia and China are buying gold as if there is no tomorrow. Economic experts believe China's yuan will become a global currency backed by gold replacing the dominance of the US dollar in few months time. They out Jew'd the Jews. Who wouldn't want 'Sound Money' This. |
JustChilling User ID: 67790386 United States 03/28/2015 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? You better Revisit that thought. Ever read Sun Tzu? They WANT you to think that. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? You better Revisit that thought. Ever read Sun Tzu? They WANT you to think that. 100% spot on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? Two things: 1) China needs to prepare for what happens when the West goes broke. We won't be buying their crap when we're all too busy trying to buy a gallon of milk for $47. 2) China will use Russia's military as an expeditionary force to maintain order and control in all of Europe. The Chinese have learned from the US how perpetual war wears down a country. They will fund Russia's military and let Russia bear the strain of being international enforcer. Russia will gladly accept. Few small problems there...the Chinese have a MASSIVE land army - they have a border with Russia and a history of conflict including a hot war with Russia in 1969. The Chinese army will have generals who fought in it. The Chinese ecomony is based on exports TO the US and EU. Putin is a bit braindead. Russia IS finished and the world can see that. China needs land. Why not let the Russians be idiots and become financial satellites before a brief and victorious land grab on Russia which will precipitate russias complete collapse and carve up? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58796942 Sweden 03/28/2015 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. I don't know why, but I feel sorry for you uneducated and ignorant people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power Attack the man not the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40759684 That's because the message is reality. Russia is in terminal decline and collapsing (again) and it utterly outmatched by NATO and has been capable of ensuring mutual destruction since the 80s. NATO has utterly undermined it's nuclear capability internally or 20 years. China is being discussed in comparison with the US in recession. That stupidly omits that the EU and US operate together to ensure mutual economic and military world dominance. Chinas economy is dwarfed by the EU and US combined. The Chinese military has no navy and is incapable o taking on NATO on any level or projecting power into Europe or the US. You're 100% right....... IF AND ONLY IF the dollar retains its reserve status ad infinitum. This is the point I'm trying to make. Once the Yuan achieves global reserve status -- especially if it gains 100% reserve status for oil trade -- then everything you're saying is moot. The balance of power literally shifts overnight. Also, you keep talking about nuclear dominance. Nuclear war is archaic and will never happen -- its a very 20th century type of warplan. You forget that China is the homeland of the author of The Art of War. Appear weak when you are strong. Appear strong when you are weak. The U.S. is launching ICBMs -- we are the ones appearing strong when our gov knows we are ever weakening. China is DOMINATING the globe in their computer security infiltration capabilities. If they were to go to war with us -- not a single missile would be needed. They would infiltrate the computer systems of EVERY major military and civilian infrastructure, and just shut the country down. It would be the equivalent of using an EMP. And there is no way we could stop it. China would help Russia using this capability if they had a strong financial alliance.... Which is starting to unfold before our very eyes. So lets play risk and be china. I need land. I had a war with Russia in 1969. I have massive trade with the EU and US which benefits me. Russia is weak and pathetic. I formulate a border dispute and take a chunk o Russia just like I did Tibet. The US and EU say go right on ahead. What makes you think that the Chinese leadership care about Russia beyond what they can take from it? To say China wants to invade Russia for their land is like saying the US would invade Canada for its land. It's just an impractical thought that makes no sense. China KNOWS that Russia is more useful to them as a financial and military ally. Plus, Chinese leadership have learned from Nazi Germany what happens when you betray Russia and try to invade -- utter failure. It will be decades down the road before China thinks about making that move. For now, they will ally with Russia and use Russia's size and strength to intimidate Europe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40759684 Ireland 03/28/2015 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. I don't know why, but I feel sorry for you uneducated and ignorant people. That's because you are a paid Russian propagandist. You should learn to speak Chinese as you may need to beg for your relatives lives with a nice Chinese officer who would like their house. China can't project power into the EU or US. It can easily take a chunk of Russia once Russia is an economic puppet state. China can't attack either the US or EU without undermining it's own economy. The US state department will be fine with the Chinese doing this. So will the EU. Russia has no friends. What makes you think the Chinese have any love for Russia? |
JustChilling User ID: 67790386 United States 03/28/2015 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. And you know whats really sad about all this....? The Founders WARNED US about Debt... [link to www.usdebtclock.org] That's the source of the problem............And Nobody Listened. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47304550 United States 03/28/2015 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Applied for China's infrastructure led bank AIIB - Deputy PM. The rise of China as new the world power This is why we're testing ICBM's. There is no greater threat to any world power than to disturb the supremacy of its currency -- especially if you are threatening the reserve currency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47304550 Take away a currency's reserve status, and the value of the currency diminishes to a mere fraction of what it once was. It is financial Armageddon. A death blow. Western financiers are TERRIFIED by China's new bank... ...Mainly because they KNOW the time is right and that the Chinese led bank will succeed -- BIG TIME. Countries are already flocking to join the bank. In a short amount of time, they will abandon the dollar and Western led banks entirely. America and the West will lie in ruins. Don't think so. I think NATO has had to capacity to vaporise Russia since the 1990s and interdict any retaliation in a variety of means. It's the biggest trick the have up their sleeve. I hope the Russian population who have cheered putin while he lead them into disaster realise this because otherwise there just won't be a Russia and the world will keep turning. I don't know why, but I feel sorry for you uneducated and ignorant people. That's because you are a paid Russian propagandist. You should learn to speak Chinese as you may need to beg for your relatives lives with a nice Chinese officer who would like their house. China can't project power into the EU or US. It can easily take a chunk of Russia once Russia is an economic puppet state. China can't attack either the US or EU without undermining it's own economy. The US state department will be fine with the Chinese doing this. So will the EU. Russia has no friends. What makes you think the Chinese have any love for Russia? Once the Chinese Yuan achieves global reserve status, they won't need to rely on exports anymore. The same thing happened in America when the Dollar achieved reserve status -- exports went WAY down. China will make WAY, WAY, WAY more money selling its reserve currency to global investors on the international market, than it ever could selling TVs to American welfare moms. |