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Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?

 
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08/25/2006 06:11 AM
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Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
I remember watching Allen Iverson talk about the NBA all star game a few ago and he said something like, "I told people I know to take all their money and bet it on this game because I knew we would win." Of course the East did win that game but it got me to thinking, how can players, coaches, and media resist the temptation of betting on games?

No one knows the game like the players and coaches, they have ALL the inside information. A perfect example:

In the WNBA about a week ago, Houston and Seattle were "battling" for playoff positioning. There was just one problem, Seattle rested their best player for the last two games and I figured out what seemed obvious: they wanted the fourth seed (because they matched up much with the Sparks, the one seed). Because of their situation, that made their last two games MUST LOSE games. Sure enough, they lost both....

But, they could have collectively made millions on this (including their friends and families). Not only that, Houston's radio announcer admitted during the last game that Seattle was playing for the fourth seed... and it was obvious that he was aware that they were trying to lose (they lost by 20+ points, btw). He could have made a lot of money on this info too.

So, what's the deal? Wouldn't the system go bankrupt if these people were capitalizing on their oppurtunities? Or do they even try? If not, why not? It's free money!

And of course they can use third parties to bet, it can be anonymous if they want it bad enough.
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08/25/2006 06:15 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
you are a genius, i am sure no one ever thought about this.

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Would you answer this question, please: Wouldn't the system go bankrupt if these people were capitalizing on their oppurtunities?
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08/25/2006 06:23 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
ever met a poor bookmaker? KD
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08/25/2006 06:26 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?
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08/25/2006 06:27 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
ever met a poor bookmaker? KD
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You don't have to use a bookie, how about vegas?
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08/25/2006 06:28 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
they are, it's just not the games that you think of...
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08/25/2006 06:29 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?
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How is that illegal? This isn't the stock market! lmao
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
they are, it's just not the games that you think of...
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More info. please?
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08/25/2006 06:32 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?


How is that illegal? This isn't the stock market! lmao
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It's legal for them to bet on their own team to win, because they can't guarantee that and it shows support for your team. If they bet against themselves it becomes illegal as they could throw the game just to win the bet. Same with their family, if a player tells his family to bet against the team they could also throw the game.
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08/25/2006 06:33 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?
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If it were illegal, Pete Rose would be in jail... on the contrary, they just won't let him in the hall of fame. Look up Pete Rose's story. He bet on his own team as a MLB manager, his problem was that he didn't use a third party to place his bets and he didn't try to conceal what he was doing enough. He didn't go to jail, he was just banned from baseball. If he would have been smarter, no one would have ever known.
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08/25/2006 06:37 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?


How is that illegal? This isn't the stock market! lmao


It's legal for them to bet on their own team to win, because they can't guarantee that and it shows support for your team. If they bet against themselves it becomes illegal as they could throw the game just to win the bet. Same with their family, if a player tells his family to bet against the team they could also throw the game.
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Just saying it isn't good enough! I want documentation! Also, having a third, fourth, or fifth party down the line place the bet is pretty untraceable if it's done right.

And, what you just described would not stop a media person from betting. Look at the media guy I talked about in the OP, he could use his knowledge to become a millionaire, no way that's illegal.
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Because it's illegal?


If it were illegal, Pete Rose would be in jail... on the contrary, they just won't let him in the hall of fame. Look up Pete Rose's story. He bet on his own team as a MLB manager, his problem was that he didn't use a third party to place his bets and he didn't try to conceal what he was doing enough. He didn't go to jail, he was just banned from baseball. If he would have been smarter, no one would have ever known.
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il‧le‧gal

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2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.


I never said it was a crime.
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08/25/2006 06:42 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Just saying it isn't good enough! I want documentation! Also, having a third, fourth, or fifth party down the line place the bet is pretty untraceable if it's done right.

And, what you just described would not stop a media person from betting. Look at the media guy I talked about in the OP, he could use his knowledge to become a millionaire, no way that's illegal.
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I personally don't care if you believe me and I may not be right in the first place, I'm not here to linkysit you. The media is probably fully capable of betting unless there's some inside deals going on, but I know it's tightly restricted for players/coaches.
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08/25/2006 06:43 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Beacuse they are not REMOTE VIEWERS

I have to laugh at all you lemmings who waste your time here and not learn something that will give you access to the future and be able to predict
ANY game of your choice.

ive made around 320,000 in the past
2 years already using Remote Viewing
You can do the same.

WAKE UP AND USE YOUR MIND!!!!
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08/25/2006 06:47 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
I know it's tightly restricted for players/coaches.
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How do you know that? And, that's pretty unenforcible.

I can see it now:

Player A (dials phone): Hey, pal, how you been? Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow....phone conversation continues....

Oh, "Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow" was a code for bet against us tomorrow on the money line.

The guy the player called lives in vegas. He has a friend place the bet for him...

simple as that, totally untraceable and this is just one way to do it.
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08/25/2006 06:49 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Beacuse they are not REMOTE VIEWERS

I have to laugh at all you lemmings who waste your time here and not learn something that will give you access to the future and be able to predict
ANY game of your choice.

ive made around 320,000 in the past
2 years already using Remote Viewing
You can do the same.

WAKE UP AND USE YOUR MIND!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78427


That's incredible! Are you saying that you can see things before they happen?

Anyways, I was talking about a team that was going to intentionally lose a game for playoff positioning. They will play to lose so of course they will lose.
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08/25/2006 06:50 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
I know it's tightly restricted for players/coaches.


How do you know that? And, that's pretty unenforcible.

I can see it now:

Player A (dials phone): Hey, pal, how you been? Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow....phone conversation continues....

Oh, "Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow" was a code for bet against us tomorrow on the money line.

The guy the player called lives in vegas. He has a friend place the bet for him...

simple as that, totally untraceable and this is just one way to do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135484


Of course there's ways around it. I immagine around that point it could become a crime, even a bigger one like wire fraud across state lines.
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08/25/2006 06:55 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
I know it's tightly restricted for players/coaches.


How do you know that? And, that's pretty unenforcible.

I can see it now:

Player A (dials phone): Hey, pal, how you been? Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow....phone conversation continues....

Oh, "Have you heard that it's going to snow in XXX tomorrow" was a code for bet against us tomorrow on the money line.

The guy the player called lives in vegas. He has a friend place the bet for him...

simple as that, totally untraceable and this is just one way to do it.


Of course there's ways around it. I immagine around that point it could become a crime, even a bigger one like wire fraud across state lines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17264


You imagine? Are you just using your intuition to convict people of imaginary crimes now?

Nobody cares about breaking the law when there's no chance you can get caught. See, all you need a couple of people working with you who will keep their mouth shut and enjoy the benefits of the situation... a lot like government in general when you think about it.
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08/25/2006 06:59 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Beacuse they are not REMOTE VIEWERS

I have to laugh at all you lemmings who waste your time here and not learn something that will give you access to the future and be able to predict
ANY game of your choice.

ive made around 320,000 in the past
2 years already using Remote Viewing
You can do the same.

WAKE UP AND USE YOUR MIND!!!!


That's incredible! Are you saying that you can see things before they happen?

Anyways, I was talking about a team that was going to intentionally lose a game for playoff positioning. They will play to lose so of course they will lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135484


YES!!! sigh,
look, search Remote Viewing right here and on the web to learn more. You can go anywhere in space/Time. Preciting games yes, even those that are fixed
is a doodle, over $320,000.00 in 2 years and counting.

GET WITH THE PROGRAME.
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08/25/2006 07:21 AM
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Beacuse they are not REMOTE VIEWERS

I have to laugh at all you lemmings who waste your time here and not learn something that will give you access to the future and be able to predict
ANY game of your choice.

ive made around 320,000 in the past
2 years already using Remote Viewing
You can do the same.

WAKE UP AND USE YOUR MIND!!!!


That's incredible! Are you saying that you can see things before they happen?

Anyways, I was talking about a team that was going to intentionally lose a game for playoff positioning. They will play to lose so of course they will lose.


YES!!! sigh,
look, search Remote Viewing right here and on the web to learn more. You can go anywhere in space/Time. Preciting games yes, even those that are fixed
is a doodle, over $320,000.00 in 2 years and counting.

GET WITH THE PROGRAME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78427


Are you for real? You can PROVE your abilities. Give me the winners in the basketball world championships for tomorrow:

Saturday, August 26 (@Saitama, Japan)
10:00 a.m. Game 61: Argentina (A1) - New Zealand (B4)
1:00 p.m. Game 62: Italy (D2) - Lithuania (C3)
5:00 p.m. Game 63: Turkey (C2) - Slovenia (D3)
8:00 p.m. Game 64: Spain (B1) - Serbia & Montenegro (A4)
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Re: Why aren't the players, coaches, and media betting on games?
Beacuse they are not REMOTE VIEWERS

I have to laugh at all you lemmings who waste your time here and not learn something that will give you access to the future and be able to predict
ANY game of your choice.

ive made around 320,000 in the past
2 years already using Remote Viewing
You can do the same.

WAKE UP AND USE YOUR MIND!!!!


That's incredible! Are you saying that you can see things before they happen?

Anyways, I was talking about a team that was going to intentionally lose a game for playoff positioning. They will play to lose so of course they will lose.


YES!!! sigh,
look, search Remote Viewing right here and on the web to learn more. You can go anywhere in space/Time. Preciting games yes, even those that are fixed
is a doodle, over $320,000.00 in 2 years and counting.

GET WITH THE PROGRAME.


Are you for real? You can PROVE your abilities. Give me the winners in the basketball world championships for tomorrow:

Saturday, August 26 (@Saitama, Japan)
10:00 a.m. Game 61: Argentina (A1) - New Zealand (B4)
1:00 p.m. Game 62: Italy (D2) - Lithuania (C3)
5:00 p.m. Game 63: Turkey (C2) - Slovenia (D3)
8:00 p.m. Game 64: Spain (B1) - Serbia & Montenegro (A4)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135484


I have a feeling this "remote viewer" is full of it. bsflag





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