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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crappy misleading headline in an article from a rabidly anti Russian paper owned by a Russian oligarch who got booted out of Russia. Quoting: Bluefool 36095198 There was no mention of nuclear force over the Baltic states, only as an option if NATO invade Russia. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29664805 Georgia, Ukraine, and now the upcoming “destabilising actions” in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania... These are NOT the works of the U.S. ! Err, yes they are! 1) The coup in Ukraine that started all this was set up by the USA. 2) NATO has expanded into the other countries in contravention of promises made when the USSR split up. Russia is protecting its borders. 1) That's why were Euromaidan protester largely armed with sticks, molotovs & flings while "pro Russian rebels" sported the most modern Russian weapons from the get go [link to ukraineinvestigation.com] 2) Can you cite the international agreement in which NATO promised not to "expanded into the other countries", please? Do it or STFU. . Can he explain why so many of the former Soviet vassals went running to join NATO and EU? Why did they not choose to stay with mighty Russia? Yup, a wast majority of Russian neighbours are literally craving to join NATO. Before 2014 there was no public support for joining NATO in Ukraine, by now it's overwhelming. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why would Russia do that, unless something/someone was provoking them? When you only listen to one side of the story, how can you really make an intelligent assessment of the situation? Quoting: RantProne Because they don't value human life? How many women have they raped in the past 80 years? how many children murdered? how many people ethnically cleaned? Russia = piece of shit. plain and simple --- How many times has the US committed illegal regime change in the world? How many countries have the US admins destabilized in the last decade? How many civilians have died from our warmongering? AGAIN....there's always two sides to a story. Russia is despised and hated by every single free and progressive nation in the modern world.. why is that? This must is fact and pretty obvious, considering 90% of Europe is part of NATO and has zero military ties to Russia. Most of asia despises Russia. Most of the middle east besides Iran and Syria. Africa? Presently, there are 39 nation-states either directly oppose Russia, or have announced verbal opposition to Russia on 2 very serious conflicts the world faces today. ______________ Why does Putin have such a difficult time with his 'friends'? ANO presents pro-American, anti-Russian policy Prague, Feb 12 (CTK) - The ruling party ANO had no clear stances on the developments outside the Czech Republic, but its leader Andrej Babis ordered a change and ANO has started to promote ties to the United States and criticism of Russia, daily Hospodarske noviny (HN) writes Thursday. <50% [link to praguemonitor.com] Not 3 weeks ago, we had this: Belarusian Leader Issues Tough Warning to Moscow MINSK, Belarus — New cracks emerged Thursday in a Russia-led economic alliance, with the president of Belarus warning that his nation may opt out of it. Alexander Lukashenko also sternly warned Moscow Thursday that his nation of 10 million will never be part of the "Russian world," a term coined by the Kremlin that reflects its hopes to pull ex-Soviet nations closer into its orbit. "Those who think that the Belarusian land is part as what they call the Russian world, almost part of Russia, forget about it!" Lukashenko said. "Belarus is a modern and independent state."<50%. [link to www.nytimes.com] What exactly is Putin trying to accomplish lately? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67706433 Because they don't value human life? How many women have they raped in the past 80 years? how many children murdered? how many people ethnically cleaned? Russia = piece of shit. plain and simple --- How many times has the US committed illegal regime change in the world? How many countries have the US admins destabilized in the last decade? How many civilians have died from our warmongering? AGAIN....there's always two sides to a story. How many did Stalin kill? You know Josef Stalin, Putler's hero, he killed what 20 million of his own people. Of course, you aren't prepared to discuss such germane issues, I got it. Russian propaganda is your expertise, not history. Exactly. Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47065024 United States 04/02/2015 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back on topic: Pantsir-S1 (SA-22 Greyhound) the newest, most advanced Russian combined SAM / AA system exported only to ME, Brazil and Vietnam so far... [link to en.wikipedia.org] ... was documented on the streets of "rebel" held Luhansk "Local miners" can't operate this beast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. How can you tell I'm "not genuinely from Slovenia"? Shall we discuss in Slovenian; spizdi v Rusijo, Putinov kurco-lizec, Even if you were true, would that anyhow change my arguments? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back on topic: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792061 Pantsir-S1 (SA-22 Greyhound) the newest, most advanced Russian combined SAM / AA system exported only to ME, Brazil and Vietnam so far... [link to en.wikipedia.org] ... was documented on the streets of "rebel" held Luhansk "Local miners" can't operate this beast. How is this "back on topic"? The topic is "Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states " What has this old video of Pantsir to do with the topic? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RantProne --- How many times has the US committed illegal regime change in the world? How many countries have the US admins destabilized in the last decade? How many civilians have died from our warmongering? AGAIN....there's always two sides to a story. How many did Stalin kill? You know Josef Stalin, Putler's hero, he killed what 20 million of his own people. Of course, you aren't prepared to discuss such germane issues, I got it. Russian propaganda is your expertise, not history. Exactly. Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 How many did Stalin kill? You know Josef Stalin, Putler's hero, he killed what 20 million of his own people. Of course, you aren't prepared to discuss such germane issues, I got it. Russian propaganda is your expertise, not history. Exactly. Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. So what? Today's Russians are not guilty for what Stalin did. Same goes for Americans of today. They can't be responsible for anything USA did in the past. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back on topic: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792061 Pantsir-S1 (SA-22 Greyhound) the newest, most advanced Russian combined SAM / AA system exported only to ME, Brazil and Vietnam so far... [link to en.wikipedia.org] ... was documented on the streets of "rebel" held Luhansk "Local miners" can't operate this beast. How is this "back on topic"? The topic is "Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states " What has this old video of Pantsir to do with the topic? You're right: Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states AND arms "rebels" with most advanced weapons - but that's another story. Okay, so what is you excuse for Russian nuclear threats? That I'm not really from Slovenia ROFL? Now, that's an excellent return... . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. KremlinBots have a very difficult time understanding this rudimentary principle: jus because you disagree with one's posts, does not mean they are trolling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back on topic: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792061 Pantsir-S1 (SA-22 Greyhound) the newest, most advanced Russian combined SAM / AA system exported only to ME, Brazil and Vietnam so far... [link to en.wikipedia.org] ... was documented on the streets of "rebel" held Luhansk "Local miners" can't operate this beast. How is this "back on topic"? The topic is "Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states " What has this old video of Pantsir to do with the topic? You're right: Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states AND arms "rebels" with most advanced weapons - but that's another story. Okay, so what is you excuse for Russian nuclear threats? That I'm not really from Slovenia ROFL? Now, that's an excellent return... . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792061 Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. KremlinBots have a very difficult time understanding this rudimentary principle: jus because you disagree with one's posts, does not mean they are trolling. Ah, KremlinBots Fuck you too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. So what? Today's Russians are not guilty for what Stalin did. Same goes for Americans of today. They can't be responsible for anything USA did in the past. You need to reread the original post I responded to with my Stalin comment. I was addressing a very specific point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54924135 Australia 04/02/2015 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't we clearly figured out they are all in it together? Seriously, with everything that has happened over the last few years it is obvious that not one government of a developed nation is working for or with the people of the said nation. They are all together in this, come on people, lets not get distracted by the side show acts they present us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59751189 Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. So what? Today's Russians are not guilty for what Stalin did. Same goes for Americans of today. They can't be responsible for anything USA did in the past. You need to reread the original post I responded to with my Stalin comment. I was addressing a very specific point. I don't care anymore. You call random people KremlinBots, which is enough for me to know your way of thinking. Fuck you again. Have a bad day too! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47065024 You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. KremlinBots have a very difficult time understanding this rudimentary principle: jus because you disagree with one's posts, does not mean they are trolling. Ah, KremlinBots Fuck you too. I see your aggressive tone is just like your bosses (VVP) threatening tone. At least to Russian position is consistent, threats, and aggressive threats. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792061 Russian territory... in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Baltic states? Why don't all of you Putin's devotees (or sell-outs) move to Putin's Russia if you admire him so much? Move! . You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. KremlinBots have a very difficult time understanding this rudimentary principle: jus because you disagree with one's posts, does not mean they are trolling. That's a standard tactics called projection: accuse the other of what you do. Cyber troll sweatshops are not even a secret in Russia: Inside the Kremlin Troll Army Machine: Templates, Guidelines, and Paid Posts [link to globalvoicesonline.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. So what? Today's Russians are not guilty for what Stalin did. Same goes for Americans of today. They can't be responsible for anything USA did in the past. Give me a break: Putin openly advocates Stalin and calls for restoration of Soviet Union - of which collapse was according to him "the biggest tragedy of 20th century". . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't we clearly figured out they are all in it together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54924135 Seriously, with everything that has happened over the last few years it is obvious that not one government of a developed nation is working for or with the people of the said nation. They are all together in this, come on people, lets not get distracted by the side show acts they present us. It is not a distraction. The real world consequences are dire and inhumane. I tend to agree with your comment, but what does one do when their country is invaded or attacked? All sides need to agree with your supposition for any real world results. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 04/02/2015 04:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47065024 You're not genuinely from Slovenia I can tell you that right now. LIAR. I told him the same. He's trolling tirelessly every day. KremlinBots have a very difficult time understanding this rudimentary principle: jus because you disagree with one's posts, does not mean they are trolling. That's a standard tactics called projection: accuse the other of what you do. Cyber troll sweatshops are not even a secret in Russia: Inside the Kremlin Troll Army Machine: Templates, Guidelines, and Paid Posts [link to globalvoicesonline.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7909394 United States 04/02/2015 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.independent.co.uk] Russia has threatened to use “nuclear force” to defend its annexation of Crimea and warned that the “same conditions” that prompted it to take military action in Ukraine exist in the three Baltic states, all members of Nato. [snip] And they said if Nato sent arms to Ukraine this would be seen as “further encroachment by Nato to the Russian border” and “the Russian people would demand a forceful response”. [/q Yeah whatever...ill blast you with my nuke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59751189 Hong Kong 04/02/2015 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59751189 Exactly? Stalin died in 20th century ffs. US bombed Japan with nuclear bombs back then. Should we repeat this every time US is doing shit? Did you miss the part where historians agree Stalin killed at least 20 million? Americans will never approach that number. 20 fucking million people. Stalin trebled the Nazi death count, of ourse that cannot be discussed. So what? Today's Russians are not guilty for what Stalin did. Same goes for Americans of today. They can't be responsible for anything USA did in the past. Give me a break: Putin openly advocates Stalin and calls for restoration of Soviet Union - of which collapse was according to him "the biggest tragedy of 20th century". . I'm giving you all the breaks in the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792061 Slovenia 04/02/2015 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is rape apologist excuse: why would the rapist rape a woman unless he was provoked? Poland Asks Russia to Explain Politician's Threat to 'Wipe Out' Baltics [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] Putin’s media head talking of turning US into “radioactive ash” [link to americablog.com] Vladimir Zhirinovsky* proposes to bomb Germany and burn Paris [link to joinfo.com] *Duma representative Nevertheless, Russia was ALWAYS the victim. No response? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53532311 United States 04/02/2015 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We should name him Putin the annexer. From the looks of it he wants to annex all Russian minorities in the Baltic "independent" states and if NATO says otherwise threaten to use nukes. I like the guy but now he's being unreasonable. That's like saying Mexico wants to annex high density Mexican states in the US. Ever since he came back from his Houdini stunt he's been acting hostile. Maybe comrade Putin's been replaced with a warmonger. |