Are Christians hateful?

pedophiles and pederasts argue that man-child sex is "love". Once you redefine love to include it, non approval of it automatically falls into "hate".

This world is so easily led astray.

Do you know that Jesus' words "offended" the jews too?

Most Catholics identify as Christians.

When I say most Christians are hateful, I say most Christian's "I've met." I can only speak in that context.

As for examples, it's not difficult. Talk to a Christian about homosexuality. Many of them will then spew hate. Not all - I never said all. But many. Or, use any other hot button topic.

Some Christians even leave Church because they can't take the hate there.

Nor should it be. I apologize for going there.

I'm a Christian, My next door neighbors are muslim. one of them just got out of Prison for threatening to blow up a local Christian Church because the Girls were wearing skirts that are too short..


It seems to me its not the Christians who are hate filled...

So you would interpret those passages as permitting hateful speech? Insults, intimidation, and so on?

Yes. But I didn't say anything about offense.

Not intending disrespect to you or GLP. The exact opposite.

It is a sign of the respectable to the respected to pose such questions.

Harmlessness and helpfulness are necessarily bound together. I believe you want to be one, I am wondering if you see the value of incorporating the other...

Wishing you well my friend...

Yeah, I'd say 95 percent or more simply believe the standard-issue interpretation handed down over and over again from the Roman source. Even Protestants, who strip away the nonsense, are still getting the core teachings from Rome.

My version is pretty radical so I get attacked from all sides, lol.

I believe the spirit understands that I need MORE, I need to understand what is hidden, so it gives it to me in measures that work for me, whether it's true or not, the end result is the same: Christ is confirmed. How I arrive to that conclusion, the Lord is not particularly fussy about.

wow

Most of us have that one thread we regret posting...this is your's.

Who said anything about regretting this?

I'm glad I posted this thread. I just shouldn't have accused GLP.

I've got bigger fish to fry than these verses you pick-and-choose and use in your shell-game of attack and manipulation.

I don't need your trap because I'm not terribly interested in convincing you of anything.

You see, if Christ wants you, he'll get you. And then you'll come to understand. Until then, you're barking up a tall tree, you're coming at a bank vault with a hairpin.

Personally, I get it. I understand your need to do what you do, I understand it's source and how pervasive it can be.

But understand that I am above it, when I want to be, but I'll mix it up a bit when I have more time. I don't have much time today. Either way, it's okay, you're going to be all right, eventually.

I even envy you a little, I sort of miss the days when I had no real understanding and was just pissing in the wind taking shots in the dark about things I didn't really understand.

I just hate to see otherwise intelligent people waste their time, but intelligence isn't always Wisdom, so there you go.

In my experience it depends on personality-which I do not think is exclusive to a particular political and/or religious belief.

I have met right-wingers that I agree with nearly everything on that I can't stand to be around b/c they are jerks and have personality and character flaws and vis-à-vis I have met left-wingers whose politics I can't stand but are easy going and are ok to be around....

Last Edited by Artemis Rand on 04/08/2015 03:51 PM

Curious...when have I offended you?

if slyness doesn't work they can become very hateful.

You, like almost every person in this thread, has totally misunderstood me.

You see, I started with a simple question: Are Christians hateful? I asked because this is a predominantly Christian site (at least those who post) and because most Christians I see are, in my opinion, hateful. And of course, because it's always in the news.

But as I said at the start: the essence of Christianity is love.

So, in the spirit of other polls I've posted, I wanted to test GLP's views.

That's where this all began.

In response, I've been insulted, pegged into ideological boxes, been told that people can see through my attempts, and generally subjected to hate.

All baselessly.

So you can use the same tired response: "You're taking this out of context." But again the question arises: are insults, intimidation, and so on compatible with Christian love? I say they aren't. But most Christians I've seen thrive on those. Maybe they aren't "Christian." So be it. But as I said - I was curious to see what GLP thought.

Totally agree.

I am opposed to socialism, I am not a racist, I believe homosexuality is a sin, I believe islam serves satan, I believe drug abusers are simply lost and as for other Christians - many "are" and many that profess to be "are not"!

So, after posting my position, would you say I'm hate-filled?

No.

And nothing I said in this thread suggests I would find you hate-filled.

But I'm a Christian! After reading a few of your posts, it seems to me you're pigeon holing Christians as hate-filled...so, you're not?

The truly tested Christian can have a bad day. He or she is only human.

Guess what happens when sweet is exchanged for bitter and when good is exchanged for evil ?


The people conclude that hate is love and that hate is love.

Some are hateful, some are't. The thing is, christians aren't perfect people OP. We try, some of us try harder then others tho.

There's your problem. discussion forums like GLP are like the wild wild west. Even when people know they are not anonymous, something about the separation from reality and the lack of a human face to directly interact with unleashes the raw unedited jerk in a lot of people, not just Christians.

Morality is being attacked like never before in this country in every aspect of life. Whether it is the inescapable barrage of media on TV and radio, down right threatening corporate policies, or now even laws that force acceptance of moral depravity under penalty of lawsuits and loss of livelihood, Christian, especially White Christians, who don't bow down and accept the destruction of what use to be a fairly moral society are feeling like their backs are against the wall.

I have read your responses. I get that you don't view simple disagreement as hateful, but what is your measuring stick to determine what is a simple disagreement and what is hate? How do you define hate? It isn't just words on a page.

As an example: homosexuality is wrong. That is not a hateful thing to say. It's also depraved, disgusting, and acceptance of it as normal is the hallmark of a society in end stage moral decay. How do you gauge whether that truth of was typed with the emotion of hate or a clear headed citation of principle without a face and a voice to color the statement?

Another example: Black people commit far more crime as a percentage of their race in the population than do Whites. That is not a hateful thing to say. That's just statistics. The destruction of the Black family and popularization of gang culture specifically among the Black population has created an alarming number of violent Black thugs who defend their theft, rape, and murder and call anyone who speaks against them racists. Thugs should be treated like thugs and if that means arresting them calmly or shooting them in self defense then so be it. That is not a hateful thing to say. It's just true.

None of what I just typed flowed from my fingers to the keyboard with any level of hatred. However, I will not back down from those words and if in irritation, frustration, or righteous indignation my words step on someone's toes a little to hard, so be it. It's not hate. It is a standard, a principle, and the result of being backed into a corner and feeling the need to open up a can of whoop-ass for some space and general defense.

No, and I never said I did.

I said that most Christian that I've met seem to be hateful. Not for what they believe, but for what they do.

I'm married to a Christian. I've no problem with Christianity.

I asked the question: Are Christians hateful [in your experience]? Then I gave my experience.

That's it.

A model response.

Hate is an emotion. It's the opposite of love. Whatever expresses that emotion is hateful. This could be tone, mannerisms, whatever. Certain types of action are typically hateful, like insults and intimidation.

I agree that Christian belief is unjustly called hateful. I don't agree with the left. I'm not a liberal - never have been.

But notice the reactions I garnered in this thread.

That doesn't speak in favor of Christians.

It's also worth noting that I retracted that statement about GLP. I was rightly called out by a mod on that. I later commented that hate is easily found out in the real world among Christians. Even Christians and Churches lament the hate in the Christian community. As I originally said, my answer to the poll is based on my experience with Christians - i.e. with their emotions and the expressions of those emotions.