Do women need the "romantic fantasy" to even care about a man?

yes that is what makes their pussies wet. That is step 1. Step 2 is to annihilate that pussy after it is wet. Once you complete both steps 1 and 2 the bitch gets hooked on dick, your dick. Like crack.

Dude, bitches are insane...you can't figure them out, they're emotional roller coasters and walking train wrecks.

Last Edited by BRIEF on 04/09/2015 08:31 AM

So are you saying (your last words), "they don't want to deal reality"--when being with you, in that reality, is dealing with fighting with you?

So said every man fallen from power for their promiscuous sword play.

I'm guessing she's quite young and inexperienced. She seems a little naieve about life, sex and the reality of relationships.

one of the definitions of romance is: a lie.

men, remember this: in her head, in her bed..

She had some pretty weird issues, so I brought them up. Addressed them. I didn't fight about them, but just bringing it up was enough to make her lose all interest.

I realized in doing so the "fantasy" might end, too.

I guess I was the adult and wanted to deal with adult issues, and she didn't. Oh well.

It the year 2015, and there is nothing new under the sun. Women will continue to act like this until men grow up, and understand what it means to have a family. Then show women what that means and how imperative it is to the future success of your child (dna).
She sounds too young and in the phase where they think every guy has to try to give them childhood fairy tale. This phase last about 2-6 years. Then they realize there are about 10% who are considered "a good man" and have decent jobs that you can bring home to mommy and daddy.
They really don't care about you…She'll have to learn her lesson about how to treat a partner somewhere else. Amazing women are out there they just usually aren't single or in the right emotional phase/cycle in their life to commit. Procreation forces most women realize how short and precious life can be. And how cruel it can be without a man in place to be the role model of the family.
Been in a relationship like the one your talking about a few years ago when I was about 20, helped me realize the type of women I am not compatible with and that I need a certain level of respect and maturity.
Things like her placing her friends first, and emotionally switching off on me after I kept "the fantasy" for over a year. A few fights and all of a sudden we just didn't feel the same. Women like this are weak and claim they have no control over their emotions. They can't bare to have their man in a position of power and get scared when it comes to someone else making the Big decisions, because when it's crunch time women usually are NOT clutch decision makers…We have the testosterone that's our job to lead and protect. By the time these women are 30 these type of women are usually married unhappily to a man with money and regret their choice because they block their heart and try to use their head for matter that is illogical…Love…you'll just know when you've found it

Great perspective.

The thing that shocked me was that she was 30.

She reminded me of a 18-19 year old, totally naive about relationships. She thought the "man" would "Do" everything.

A man does a lot, but a woman has to SUPPORT him. She'd just bail the second something went wrong. Pathetic.

Oh just stop!

The OP is dating a woman who has said to him there isn't anything in the relationship for her. What more can she say to get it across to the OP that this relationship is not going anywhere?

Just because one person in a two person relationship thinks things are capable of working out-- it doesn't mean that things are capable of working out. As they say " it takes two to tango".

If a woman wants a guy who offers her romance, and she flat out says that she wants that, then what gives anyone the right to bash her?

She is not all women, she is one woman. And listening to the OP's story about how impossible this one woman is in not wanting to work things out with him has absolutely nothing to do with other relationships.

Isn't it enough to carry one's own baggage? Do you think it's really all that helpful to carry others peoples?

Bottom line is love makes no sense to outsiders! It isn't the kind of thing you can manufacture. It would be great if there was some trick to it, but there isn't.

Alpha males or beta males aren't in better relationships than other men. Don't listen to that nonsense.

The only thing an alpha guy will admit to is that his life is awesome, but sheesh, don't fool yourself into thinking that he's sincere. He's programmed into believing that everything he does, and everything he touches is perfect.

Don't believe the hype! People are people.

OP,

She likes flings, not relationships. Some people are like that. Let her go fling it elsewhere. Forget it and move on.

Women need to be told what to feel.

Where did you pull that out of your butt?

She never said that to me. Never made it clear to me. If she had, that's fine! I'd have just avoided her to begin with! Her choice, if that's what she wants.

I just had to figure it out the hard way.

You're right. She just presented herself as the opposite. I couldn't believe it when I realised exactly what you said above about her.

OP , this is fairly common in a lot of women to some degree, however with this particular chick, I think she hs additional problems of maturity and emotional issues. This girl doesn't understand life or the value of things.

Chalk it up to experience, and don't let her mental issues pull you into a depressed state. she is a shallow person ,,,me, me ,me me.

Your wording was quite revealing , " all she has to do is show up" , funny and yet accurate as a lot of us guys have experienced someone like that.
These are Users and abusers, you were used ! It's that simple! Now get over it.

Yep. Good insight.

My last words to her were, "You never valued me as a person."

Some came across as so sweet, innocent... but deep down, I came to know this empty, hollow person who only cares about herself.

Hell yeah they need it. It's a give give Give romance get anal give gifts get bjs give compliments get sex give love bitch is off looking for gifts else where.

She's got daddy issues.

She doesn't want a relationship, she want's a replacement daddy. which is kinda wierd if she's looking for this in a relationship.

OP, consider your fate in this particular relationship a blessing.

The type of woman you describe will NEVER be happy.

She wants an entertainer, not a life partner.

Say a small prayer of thanks....someone was watching over you.

Best of luck in the future!

All a woman truly wants from a man as a partner is to feel SAFE. Hard to find that anymore.

My girl was 32 going on 16, really a daddy's little girl, she only seeked to please daddy... a big problem to deal with, like a brainwashing thing.

She couldn't do anything a woman should know, a little girl, but an adult..... she would say she couldn't cook, clean...anything....but that wasn't so, she just didn't want to, wanted to be waited on.... She couldn't even say the words "I love you.", when I say it first...this can be very hard when u know she loves you, but can't realize it... she also made it harder, because she was a "Bible Quoter", but she was the type that would throw me, or anyone else under a bus, at first panic, I would feel so used, but go back time and time again, she was a total messed up head job....it's hard to overcome such a love, I still don't understand it myself, love makes fools of us, I guess...you'll never forget her, but time away from her when heal your heart....My advice is leave, telling her nothing at all... Words ending a relationship with girls like these, don't help....they completely disassociate, from people....like a cult member does, they are brainwashed robots.

Define safe.

Physically safe? Emotionally safe?

Does she want the absolute guarantee she'll never be emotionally hurt?

The hard truth is the world isn't a "safe" place and in every relationship there are times of pain, sometimes intentional and sometimes accidental.

if the passion is lost, jump off the love boat

She's got daddy issues.

Most of them keep this persective until menopause. After that, they're no longer girls, but crones in bed.

To be fair guys expect the "sexual fantasy" so it seems like a fair trade.

yes 'most' of them do have a Disney princess fantasy childhood

I had a friend like this. Spent all her time watching "reality" shows, especially the "real housewives". Even watched some stupid talk show that recapped the weeks episodes and discussed them! lol.

Before reality tv started, I think she read alot of romance novels.

She was horrible to her husband. She just couldn't understand why he couldn't be like those husbands on tv. Why she didn't have the best of everything, all the time.

I kept trying to make her understand how fake it all was, but she wasn't having it. She was addicted to the fantasy.