Oklahoma City Bombing RARE Footage

If they found and were difusing bombs, that's a far cry from a Ryder truck. That goes against everything they have said. The guy they had talking to the newscasters said "bombs".

Hi Eyes Wide Open!!

Excellent!

Everybody should see this tape.

The first minute is kind of wasted with the well-known testimony of Gen Partin, but the remainder of the 5-minute clip shows what really happened that morning.

I have a videotape that shows CNN coverage from that morning, saying the same things. I got the videotape through the mail by sending $17 somewhere.



Rap wif ya' later.

Rock

OMG! EYES!!! I could kiss you! I've been telling people for years that I watched the reports on the additional bombs LIVE on our news station, and for years people have pooh-poohed me.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

Nice info, another stone in the wash.

For those dunderheads who will scream "conspiracy theory" over this one, I can only tell you that the LIVE coverage reported it, and the trucks with the bomb containment equipment were shown LIVE. I would suggest to those morons that they look to the government, because it was the government that put the silent treatment on this one.

Cui bono?

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Where was George Bush when all of this happened. After all GW Bush has been blamed for everything else.

Who was president then, who was president during WACO who was president when the USS COLE was attacked.


Resting my case.......

WTF man- you are hitting and trying to debunk allot of these threads. Move on over to "interesting reads" and wrap your mind around those links to the .gov and .mil sites and try to debunk them. I would love to see you squirm.

My fellow Americans,
The truth is that they killed us in Oklahoma City, they killed us in New York City, they killed us at the Pentagon, they killed us in Pennsylvania, they still kill us In Afghanistan, they kill us in Iraq, they killed us in New Orleans, they kill the whole country by screwing around with the weather and we just sit here and say thank you Mr. President and we send him more money so he can have more plans drawn up for more killings.
Thank you Mr. President, we are deserving by being stupid.

Looks like you are resting ON your case. Here's a hint...GWB, GHWB, and Slick Willie are partners in crime.

W:
Well said.

Dude you need to relax, wake up, and smell the coffee.

I'm pretty good at calling this shit out ain't I??

Now you try to make me look bad. Shame, you cant win DUDE

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Dubya would have been just southwest of there in Midland at the time of the bombing.

Thanks!

Now I need to go splash cold water on my face and question everything I ever thought I knew about my government...

I suggest you look at these examples of truck bombings and compare them to OKC. Unless you claim these were a conspriacy too? The damage is almost the same! [link to images.google.com] [link to www.saudi-us-relations.org] The Murrah building for comparison: [link to www.techunl.net] Also 1983 Beirut was this also a conspricy? [link to www.terrorism-victims.org]

No I'm not trying to make you look bad, your debunking tactics do that well enough.

Almost the same?

In the first link you proffered, regarding the USAF Base in Dhahran, they stated that the device was made of a "high order explosive material." From what I can learn, a fertilizer and diesel bomb isn't considered a "high order explosive material."

Mathetes, you do come out of your lair for some unusual stuff. You paid to watch this board? You just like to protect the government from charges of anti-constitutional conspiracy?

There is NO denying that the Murrah Building contained more than one bomb, as the reports show and as we watched on the day it happened. You can believe whatever you wish, but we watched the LIVE cameras follow the bomb squad vehicles.

Your quote of : NO denying that the Murrah Building contained more than one bomb" is just plain silly! One question for you, in your world view is it only when a bombing or terrorist attack occurs in the U.S. that its automatically a conspiracy?

Somehow I suspect you didn't even bother to watch the video clip. There is NO denying that there were multiple bombs, honey. The video confirmed that.

At one point, the leader of the bomb squad was interviewed (I wish to God someone had saved that interview) and he confirmed that there were multiple explosive devices. He even described one as being attached to a support column. (edit: as I recall from that day, at one point...)

Mathetes, I didn't think the Murrah bombing was an insider conspiracy until I started paying attention to what McVeigh was charged with, and how his trial proceeded. Things didn't add up.

Cui bono?

Mathetes, you stated that my comment about there being "NO denying that the Murrah Building contained more than one bomb" is just plain silly.

That's your opinion. You didn't refute what I said. You merely made an opinionated judgement about my statement.

C'mon, you are smarter than that, right?

Two words for this clip: A Mazing. And all mention of the bombs planted in the building was later dropped and never, ever mentioned again. We are supposed to believe and never doubt that a rental truck, packed with explosives, parked outside the building, did this damage. I wonder who is hiding what in this story? Why did they want the bombs-inside-the-building story dropped?

Families of the victims started contributing money to the the Timothy McVeigh defense fund because it was overwhelmingly obvious that the government's story was total bullshit.

Part of what doomed McVeigh was that the government was able to successfully suppress the testimony of the FBI bomb experts.

So, ask yourself, why would the government not want FBI bomb experts to testify at trial?

The biggest problem has to do with efficienty equations.

I don't know how to explain it to make sense to everyone except to use plutonium as an example.

Suppose you have 1 kg of plutonium

1 kg * 1000 g/kg = 1,000 g

1,000 g of Pu239 contains how many atoms?

1,000 g / 239 g/mol = 4.18 mol

4.18 mol * 6.022 x 10^23 atoms/mol = 2.52 x 10^24 atoms of Pu239

The fissioning of any atom produces 180 MeV (million electron volts) of energy.

Therefore:

2.52 x 10^24 * 180 MeV = 4.53 x 10^26 MeV of energy.

1 kiloton = 2.62 x 10^25 MeV of energy

Therefore:

4.53 x 10^26 MeV / 2.62 x 10^25 MeV = 17.3 kt

Accordingly then, 1 kg of plutonium can be used in a nuclear warhead with a yield of 17.3 kt, right?

Wrong. It isn't possible to cause all of the atoms in 1 kg of plutonium to fission within 6 nanoseconds.

In order to get 2.52 x 10^24 atoms of Pu239 to fission within 6 nanoseconds, you need a minimum of 3.5 kg of weapons grade plutonium, lots of berylium and a huge freaking DU reflector, plus lots and lots of test data. Without the test data and the berylium and the DU, it requires about 4.4 to 4.6 kg of plutonium.

With respect to efficiency, Pu239 is better than U235, which is better than PBX, which is better that C-4, which is better than TNT, which is better than gunpowder, which is better than gasoline, which is better than diesel.

Where do thing ammonium nitrate fertilizer soaked in diesel falls into place?

Between gasoline and gunpowder.

You've probably heard of nitrate tests, and if you watch the crime dramas, they talk about gun powder residue tests. Same thing. When you fire a weapon, like a rifle or pistol, 100% of the gunpowder DOES NOT burn. The unburned gunpowder is expelled by the expanding hot gases through cracks and crevices in the chamber, the bolt, the recoil spring and the trigger and trigger housing.

The unburned gundpower becomes embedded in the 4th, 5th and 6th layers of your skin in your hands, and if you fire a rifle, in the skin of your cheeks and chin.

A nitrate test will detect the presence of unburnt gunpowder. As you all know, Oswald was given a nitrate test that was positive for gunpowerd residue on his right hand, but not his left hand and not his face. It proved that Oswald fired a hand-gun (which he freely admitted) but did not fire a rifle (which he vehemently denied).

This principle also allows us to immediately distinguish between suicides and murders.

A suicide by gun will be evidenced by tatooing, caused by unburnt gunpowder, and burning around the point of entry.

If there is no evidence of tatooing or burning, that indicates the weapon was at least 6 to 10 feet away, and therefore not a suicide.

When ammonium nitrate fertizer is soaked in diesel and used as a bomb, 100% of the ammonium nitrate fertilizer does not burn, just like 100% of C-4 does not burn in an explosion. That's how we can tell whether or not C-4 or fertilizer or anything else was used, because unburnt residue remains and can be collected as evidence and tested.

And this is important, because the Amercan public is poorly educated in sciences and cannot think critically anyway, so when the government says a 50 pound bag of fertilizer is equivalent to 5 tons of TNT (hypothetically speaking --I don't recall the exact ratio) that is exactly what they mean: equivalent, in theory, but not in reality.

We're talking about POTENTIAL energy, not actual energy.

The amount of fertilizer used was not sufficient to cause that type of damage.

Worse still, it doesn't even begin to address other issues. For example, all of the bags of fertilizer would have to have been detonated simultaneously, to the millisecond. Failure to do so would result in delayed detonation creating blast effect waves that cancel each other out, reducing the effectiveness.

Think back to the 1 kg of Pu239. When a thin hollow-shelled sphere is imploded, it creates an inelastic collision. What happens when you roll 2 billiard balls at each other? They collide and bounce apart in opposite directions.

A thin shelled hollow sphere does the same thing. For that reason, there are two plastic explosive lenses laminated together and detonated milliseconds apart. The first shockwave collapses the thin hollow shelled sphere. As it starts to fly apart, just like billiard balls, the second shockwave exerts pressure to keep the Pu239 together long enough to fission as many atoms as possible, before other forces, like heat, begin to expand the Pu239.

I think Oklahoma City was a test run to gauge the reaction of the American people and to see how quickly the conspirators could gain control of the media and disseminate misinformation.

Don't forget Ruby Ridge. Our gov't kills us w/impunity whenever & wherever it wants to.

[link to www.ruby-ridge.com]

Ningishiddza


Great Post!

Lot's off hanky panky involved in OKC, before and after.

One sure fall-out was the removal of a threat to the current agenda - the white militia - righty whitey was defanged and is now a pussycat who laps the Neocon milk.

Strassmeier (Deutsche Jude) at Eloyim - German intelligence - McVeigh and Strassmeier - SPLC and Strassmeier - Strassmeier wisked out of country after OKC - BATF on sick leave in OKC - etc., etc.,

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]

What was the Army doing with a Ryder Truck just before the Murrah blast?

I don't know anything about that. Is there a link or something?

Mathetes, Mathetes...I guess jew loving and gov't loving go hand in hand, hmmm???


What you don't seem to get is that CONSPIRACIES happen all over the world, every single day! Of course the bombings you listed are conspiracies...the question is, WHO DID IT??? WHY??? Put aside the reasons told or the people blamed...WHO REALLY BENEFITS???

YOU KNOW, Mathetes...you ought to know...THEY are your employer.