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The law was placed outside as a witness, what do you think the purpose was? That they should obey or disobey the law?
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OK, the reason God made a distinction between the 2 is because the 10 commandments are FOREVER. That is why He wrote them on stone and placed them inside the ark.

THe law of moses is a different story. The parchment it was written on was placed in a pouch outside of the ark because it was only TEMPORARY until the messiah was born, lived and died.

We could get into a long discussion about this.......but if you're not willing to listen then there is no point.
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No scripture backs that nonsense up.
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The whole bible backs it up. See, that's the problem with you and that's why you don't understand the bible and salvation. You only look at verses and don't understand the big picture, the whole story.

I would like to teach you, but you won't let me. Same with your friend FOY, same deal there.
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Lol. You're the one rejecting teaching and sound doctrine, or as you like to call it - "bullying" and "stalking". You were arguing your position in a thread without even knowing the difference between hell and the lake of fire. It's like talking to a wall. If that wall started crying like a child anytime some disgreed with it that is. Have you even acknowledged the name yet? I don't think you have.
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I never said. There's no OT prophecy saying the messiah will be born of a virgin. It's irrelevant.
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Ok, so do you believe the virgin birth or do you deny it? Simple question.
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I accept it, but not for the reason you do.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Ok explain........I'm listening.
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Manifestation of the logos. You wouldn't follow and you wouldn't hear me out. Waste of time.

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I do agree with monotheism that there is no such thing as THE Holy Spirit God (there is of course the Holy Spirit OF God) but I can not help but notice that he does seem to demean the importance of Christ.

There are far too many scriptures showing the deity of Christ. He is NOT just another man but God in the flesh. To be clear He is NOT the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70939956


The Father is conclusively identified as YHWH, and YHWH's word makes it clear: there's no God next to Him, nor does He leave room for a trinity or binity. Hence Jesus affirmed we are to serve the Father as God alone just as he did./
 Quoting: Monotheism


No arguments there. However as I stated previously there are far too many scriptures pointing to the deity of the Son. You can not just dismiss this. Here are just a couple.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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OK, the reason God made a distinction between the 2 is because the 10 commandments are FOREVER. That is why He wrote them on stone and placed them inside the ark.

THe law of moses is a different story. The parchment it was written on was placed in a pouch outside of the ark because it was only TEMPORARY until the messiah was born, lived and died.

We could get into a long discussion about this.......but if you're not willing to listen then there is no point.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


No scripture backs that nonsense up.
 Quoting: Monotheism


The whole bible backs it up. See, that's the problem with you and that's why you don't understand the bible and salvation. You only look at verses and don't understand the big picture, the whole story.

I would like to teach you, but you won't let me. Same with your friend FOY, same deal there.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lol. You're the one rejecting teaching and sound doctrine, or as you like to call it - "bullying" and "stalking". You were arguing your position in a thread without even knowing the difference between hell and the lake of fire. It's like talking to a wall. If that wall started crying like a child anytime some disgreed with it that is. Have you even acknowledged the name yet? I don't think you have.
 Quoting: Monotheism


See what I mean? Your pride and ego won't allow for the thought that maybe you're wrong. Sad.

You have a goodnight.
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This Scripture was written exclusively to the Jews, not the world. That is the mistake people make, taking it out of the context of whom it was written to.

The word 'foreigner" here, does not supply the correct meaning: as the term was properly, a guest, sojourner or stranger, who temporarily stays with you.
Now they were not to "work or perform labor", but to "rest" but that is only part of the requirements in upholding the 7th day Sabbath.
Upholding the 7th day Sabbath requires much more than that.(which is another mistake that Christian "Sabbath keepers" often make)
Just a few of the requirements are:
No work or travel except by foot for a short distance, is allowed on the Sabbath.
No preparing food or using electricity or allowing any work to be preformed by others, for you( like going out to dinner, using a cab or bus, or having workmen in). As well as a few hundred other things.

Most "Sabbath keeper" groups, travel to meetings by a vehicle (which is either gasoline or animals performing "work"), have lights on and other electricity performing "work" in their churches, and go out to dinner (others working for them), afterwards. Just to name a few violations.
Thus violating the "rest" requirement and the other requirements of Scripture, regarding the Sabbath day.

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Like I said, talmudism.

Isaiah 56:6
And foreigners who bind themselves to YHWH to minister to him, to love the name of YHWH, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant--

[link to karaiteinsights.com]
 Quoting: Monotheism

You do realize this Scripture is referring to becoming converts to Old Testament, Judaism
. It requires keeping all 613+ commandments, feast days and making sacrifices at the temple, that does not currently exist.
So unless you eat Kosher food, wear the special clothing(Leviticus 19:19 , ... "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.), as most clothes are poly, cotton blends or other blends, observe all the feast days and other requirements, you are not keeping the covenants.
So then it means nothing, You are a Torah breaker and an outcast from God.
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Linen and wool are the fabrics not to be mixed, which is easily avioded since most clothes does not contain this mix. Abstaining from pork, blood and shell-fish is not a big deal. And the 613 number comes from Orthodox (actual Pharisees) tradition based on Maimonides; some based on extremely contrived interpretrations, others can't be kept without a temple and levitical priesthood. That's a Karaite link however, Karaites reject the authority of the talmud (oral torah), and only regards the Tanakh as their authority. Which was the point of the link to begin with if you read it, since most extra-biblical Sabbath regulations comes from the Talmud.

Obviously Sabbath keeping would have been widespread among early Christian since they had to literally outlaw it at the 4th century Council of Laodicea, and replace it with Constantine's day of sun worship (and enforced rest).

[link to www.sabbathtruth.com]

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Monotheism

The Karite Jews follow the same basics as any other Jewish Sect as far as what the Scriptures themselves dictate.
.Lev 19:19, actually forbids mixing things, clothing is just one of them.
Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep My statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind; thou shalt not sow thy field with two kinds of seed; neither shall there come upon thee a garment of two kinds of stuff mingled together.
King James version improperly limits it to linen and wool, most version do not. They stay true to the original.The whole passage deals with not mixing different things.
Abstaining from blood is not so easy. All current slaughtering processes have excess blood in the meat. Karaism requires eating only Shechita processed meat.
As a true Karite Jew, you still must observe all the traditions and obligations including not mixing fabrics, the wearing of the Tzitzit and of observing the feast days and Sabbath regulations in the Scriptures.
All of which are quite similar to Rabbinical Judaism.
You do not seem to understand what is required of a Karite..
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I do agree with monotheism that there is no such thing as THE Holy Spirit God (there is of course the Holy Spirit OF God) but I can not help but notice that he does seem to demean the importance of Christ.

There are far too many scriptures showing the deity of Christ. He is NOT just another man but God in the flesh. To be clear He is NOT the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70939956


The Father is conclusively identified as YHWH, and YHWH's word makes it clear: there's no God next to Him, nor does He leave room for a trinity or binity. Hence Jesus affirmed we are to serve the Father as God alone just as he did./
 Quoting: Monotheism


No arguments there. However as I stated previously there are far too many scriptures pointing to the deity of the Son. You can not just dismiss this. Here are just a couple.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68701626


That verse in Matthew is referring to a prophecy in Isaiah (7:14) that was originally fulfilled during the days of Ahaz. It's a prophecy given personally to king Ahaz to be fulfilled during his lifetime. The only way for a Christian to even accept it is to call it a dual prophecy, saying Matthew re-applied it to Jesus.

And the name is just that, a name, not a description of attribute, but a proper name. And Jesus was never called by that name. Almost all Hebrew names in the Bible are compounds containing either God (el) or God's name contracted (-iah).

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People like to argue scripture to justify their lifestyles and sin, all while Gods children are suffering on mass, in need of comfort, food, guidance etc.

We don't need scripture to tell us that if you you truly know Christ, believe in him, love him and are eternally grateful for his works and sacrifice, than you could surely not sin in his face whilst making such claims.
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Like I said, talmudism.

Isaiah 56:6
And foreigners who bind themselves to YHWH to minister to him, to love the name of YHWH, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant--

[link to karaiteinsights.com]
 Quoting: Monotheism

You do realize this Scripture is referring to becoming converts to Old Testament, Judaism
. It requires keeping all 613+ commandments, feast days and making sacrifices at the temple, that does not currently exist.
So unless you eat Kosher food, wear the special clothing(Leviticus 19:19 , ... "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.), as most clothes are poly, cotton blends or other blends, observe all the feast days and other requirements, you are not keeping the covenants.
So then it means nothing, You are a Torah breaker and an outcast from God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70787124


Linen and wool are the fabrics not to be mixed, which is easily avioded since most clothes does not contain this mix. Abstaining from pork, blood and shell-fish is not a big deal. And the 613 number comes from Orthodox (actual Pharisees) tradition based on Maimonides; some based on extremely contrived interpretrations, others can't be kept without a temple and levitical priesthood. That's a Karaite link however, Karaites reject the authority of the talmud (oral torah), and only regards the Tanakh as their authority. Which was the point of the link to begin with if you read it, since most extra-biblical Sabbath regulations comes from the Talmud.

Obviously Sabbath keeping would have been widespread among early Christian since they had to literally outlaw it at the 4th century Council of Laodicea, and replace it with Constantine's day of sun worship (and enforced rest).

[link to www.sabbathtruth.com]

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Monotheism

The Karite Jews follow the same basics as any other Jewish Sect as far as what the Scriptures themselves dictate.
.Lev 19:19, actually forbids mixing things, clothing is just one of them.
Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep My statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind; thou shalt not sow thy field with two kinds of seed; neither shall there come upon thee a garment of two kinds of stuff mingled together.
King James version improperly limits it to linen and wool, most version do not. They stay true to the original.The whole passage deals with not mixing different things.
Abstaining from blood is not so easy. All current slaughtering processes have excess blood in the meat. Karaism requires eating only Shechita processed meat.
As a true Karite Jew, you still must observe all the traditions and obligations including not mixing fabrics, the wearing of the Tzitzit and of observing the feast days and Sabbath regulations in the Scriptures.
All of which are quite similar to Rabbinical Judaism.
You do not seem to understand what is required of a Karite..
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I understand fully well.
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I do agree with monotheism that there is no such thing as THE Holy Spirit God (there is of course the Holy Spirit OF God) but I can not help but notice that he does seem to demean the importance of Christ.

There are far too many scriptures showing the deity of Christ. He is NOT just another man but God in the flesh. To be clear He is NOT the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70939956


The Father is conclusively identified as YHWH, and YHWH's word makes it clear: there's no God next to Him, nor does He leave room for a trinity or binity. Hence Jesus affirmed we are to serve the Father as God alone just as he did./
 Quoting: Monotheism


No arguments there. However as I stated previously there are far too many scriptures pointing to the deity of the Son. You can not just dismiss this. Here are just a couple.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68701626


Here's an explanation of the logos/word of God.

[link to www.prweb.com]

Bookmark and watch.

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And just to clarify, countryman. It's the suffix -el in Immanuel translated as God. That word is not as static in Hebrew, it comes from the root meaning might/authority/power, same as the word elohim. The word in itself does not necessarily denote deity, even human beings are called that at times. When in this context however, in a compound Hebrew name, it's implied it's referring to YHWH.

Let me know if you have any other verses you're wondering about. Be sure to check out the links in my signature.
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The links provided below are the answer to what the mark of the beast is.

I suggest anyone wishing to know the truth
read them and take them to heart, mind and action.

The time is swiftly approaching when you will be tested. If you wish to pass the test, you will need to heed this information. Anyone who knows the truth but doesn't heed it will be without excuse when judgment is passed.


Revelation 14:9-12 ...'And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man WORSHIP the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'

READ MORE;

[link to www.markofbeast.net]

ALSO;

[link to www.theseal-ofgod.com]

THEN...THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. (DON'T FORGET #4)coffee4

[link to www.godstenlaws.com]

ALSO

Jesus Kept Saturday, the Seventh day Sabbath Holy, Should We?

[link to www.preparingforeternity.com]

enguard
 Quoting: Osmium76

Jesus kept Saturday as a Sabbath, as all Israel and Jews are commanded to do.
However Gentile's are forbidden to do so by the Jews, as it is only for the Jewish people and Jewish Nation's, Covenant with God.
All Gentiles, not converts to Judaism,(This included Christians) were to be stoned to death for upholding the Jewish Sabbath or even attempting to do so. As this perverts and corrupts, Israel's Covenant with God.

So all those promoting "keeping the sabbath", do not understand the Scriptures, the Covenant of God with Israel or History.
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Talmudism.

Exodus 20:10
but the seventh day is a sabbath to YHWH your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns.
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Hebrews 4 - Sabbath is for the obedient. The children of God.
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Just a reminder.

The laws which are being set in place and the actions being taken now are the precedent for the actual mark.

When the Anti-Christ comes he will continue this nonsense but with the added fear to rebel against him.

The spying on citizens, the tracking, the crypto as a payment which is not physical and can be added to the mark, the easily accessible medical records and ability to refuse service, the building access codes and area invisible fences, the ability to be paid at all as banks word-wide seek to either adopt crypto or make their own.

The females leaders, the child leaders, the weak male leaders, the wide-spread sexual deviancy, the lack of strong males, the lack of older people to tell the youngest generation NO and why not, the lack of the fear of God, the lack of law keeping, the tiny and extremely agile drones in the sky, the increase in technology and the modifying of genes and desire for eugenics, the buying up of all the farm land by singular persons that are intimately involved with government affairs, the refusing to let the land rest for a jubilee year, the artificial price market manipulations by forcing contracted farmers to destroy perfectly edible food, the insistence on labels and false titles, the constant refusal/barring of education for the youth except those who have money, the continued theft and lying and cheating of nations so far away no one cares, the immoral judges paid and trained to refuse to serve justice, the cops turned military/mercenary, the changing and erasure of history, the godless authorities increasing, the kings popping up around the world, the subversion of governments.

This is ALL precedent for the Anti-Christ so that he can do three things.
1. Implement 'new' laws in response to the 'Big Earth Crisis' which everyone has already experienced in one form or another and gain control and favor by solving the problems Satan and his children made.
2. Mark all of Satan's children and in so doing cause God to hate them and refuse them.
3. Make difference between Satan's children and God's and disallow or destroy the ability for God's children to reproduce physically and spiritually, making God's children ineffective and barren, and reducing the mouths and minds which can give Yahweh the glory he deserves and demands.

Because that is the issue at hand with the mark of the beast. It is not the tattooing or the tracking, but that Satan and his false prophets will give the people a new name and a 'new' way of 'life' and they will reject God, take the new name, and follow him. In so doing they will have called Satan God, Master, and father and God has decided that this is unforgivable.

I did not lie when I prophesied to you. Just because you reject it, does not mean these things are not happening.
How soon till the end? By the mouth of the other prophets we have thousands of years left and many major events. How long till the Anti-Christ and the mark? I have not been told, but as I look around and I see people failing to draw their swords and fight, I feel it draws more near.

Learn the law.
Keep the law.
Gain brothers and sisters.
Ask God to make you perfect.
Understand that until the Supernatural comes into play, we are dealing with other humans.
And remember all of this is short lived compared to eternity.
Something cannot come from nothing.
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Something cannot come from nothing.
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6666 days =

6000 + 666 days =

6 + 60 + 600 + 6000 days =

144 + 1440 + 14400 + 144000 hours
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144000 are people not hours
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666 is the number of man, Rev 13

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Wrong. Its the number of A MAN. There is a big difference. One is plural for all Men and the other is singular as in its the number of a man like the antichrist or like an identification number for each individual men.
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Back in the Bible days, the couldn't conceive of a population of 8 billion people-and when you add all the past and future dead-maybe 10 billion?



144,000 saved out of that?!?! 99% of all Christians are DOOMED!, also
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Roughly ten percent of the population will be saved. I say this because judgment day is often compared to a harvest in the Bible and the old testament law stated that ten percent was to the Lord.

So it wouldn't surprise me if only 500 million make it into the kingdom as the Georgia guidestones state.
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Back in the Bible days, the couldn't conceive of a population of 8 billion people-and when you add all the past and future dead-maybe 10 billion?



144,000 saved out of that?!?! 99% of all Christians are DOOMED!, also
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68854613


Roughly ten percent of the population will be saved. I say this because judgment day is often compared to a harvest in the Bible and the old testament law stated that ten percent was to the Lord.

So it wouldn't surprise me if only 500 million make it into the kingdom as the Georgia guidestones state.
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10% of trillions of humans over thousands of years is more than 500million.

If the number of children given to Moses by blood was as the sands near the Sea, uncountable, why do you think God would take less than what he gave to a man?

If it is less, it is WAY less. As he also said he keeps a remnant no matter what is happening on the Earth.
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I can only keep warning you as to what I was commanded to say about it. You were given here the REASON why it is a sin according to God.

Ignore it if you will, but never say no one ever told you.

Whereas other men and women will lie to you and say they know what or when or where the mark will show up, I have told you nothing except WHY God will never forgive you if you take it upon yourself.
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Listen to the logic of these people in SCOTUS and then read the prophecy which I gave to you all again.


Listen to them. Logically dissect what they are saying.
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We are in the midst of the mark being built and compiled.
Are these females 100% correct? Probably not, but the it is the testimony of the Christian of which I am concerned with.
Something cannot come from nothing.





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