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POPULAR MECHANICS: 9/11 Debunking the Debunkers (Radio Show Interview)

Basically Popular Mechanics writer is saying it was a terror plot and no proof of conspiracies by the government happe.....Listen to the interview...

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Charles basically shred's this Davin loser from pop-mechanics. Man that is priceless stuff.
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Popular Mechanics is the Bible of the Scientific Dictatorship.

As antiquity gave way to modern history, the religious power structure shifted from Sun worship, to an autocracy of the knowable, or a 'scientific dictatorship.' Subtly and swiftly, the Ruling class seized control of science and used it as an 'epistemological weapon' against the masses.

“The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries. Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown.” Freemason Aldous Huxley in Brave New World Revisited

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Popular Mechanics is the Bible of the Scientific Dictatorship.

As antiquity gave way to modern history, the religious power structure shifted from Sun worship, to an autocracy of the knowable, or a 'scientific dictatorship.' Subtly and swiftly, the Ruling class seized control of science and used it as an 'epistemological weapon' against the masses.

“The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries. Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown.” Freemason Aldous Huxley in Brave New World Revisited

Can you HANDLE the truth?
[link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]
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Dufontaine, What choice do we have but to fight?
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Of course they are, look who owns them.


Feature Article: Conspiracies
POPULAR MECHANICS: 9/11 Debunking the Debunkers (Radio Show Interview)

Basically Popular Mechanics writer is saying it was a terror plot and no proof of conspiracies by the government happe.....Listen to the interview...

[link to freedomsphoenix.com]
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The wheels are falling off.
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If you saw it in Popular Mechancics it must be true.
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agent hahaha the power that could be.. :looser:

[link to www.911blogger.com] u guys are pathetic.. look at this link. titled - Popular Mechanics in full retreat on Charles Goyette Show, Popular Mechanics invited to the National 9/11 Debate...

i feed the troll because i like to kick its ass! i strangle the troll because trolls are.. well they are trolls!
[link to www.youtube.com] LIES LIES LIES!!

i am educating them myself in the military! these here shipmates will revolt just like in Vietnam and the peasents of England in the what was it 15th century?
have revolution will travel.. few months
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We're counting on that, cheers. show 'em the the truth and get them to spread the word.

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Popular Mechanics is part of the Hearst media empire.

The term "yellow journalism" came from shoddy reporting from Hearst newspapers, most notoriously Hearst's promotion of the fake claim that Spain had blown up the USS Maine in Havana harbor (the pretext for the Spanish-American war)

The neo-Nazi American Free Press / Barnes Review wrote an article shortly after Popular Mechanics published their story claiming that Ben Chertoff, one of the Popular Mechanics writers, is a relative of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. AFP / Barnes has inserted a lot of hoaxes into the "9/11 truth" literature, but they also publish some accurate material. Not surprisingly, Ben Chertoff denies any relation with the other Chertoff - and there has not been any follow-up from a journalist with a track record of accuracy to determine whether this is true or not. Either way, it is just a distraction and possibly bait to discredit the "9/11 truth movement."



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Ben Chertoff: Propagandist & Illuminati Disinformation Tool

By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
[link to educate-yourself.org]
March 6, 2005

Original title
How The Bush Administration Uses Nepotism To Conceal Its Dark Secrets About 911
Exclusive to American Free Press

Dictators like Saddam Hussein have always used nepotism to protect their secrets and maintain control. Like a dictatorship, the inner cabal that directs the actions of the Bush administration uses the same tactics to confuse the public and conceal the truth of 9/11.

Dictators have always employed nepotism, the placing of family members in key positions, for one simple reason: only loyal family members can be trusted with the secrets that keep them in power. For this reason the shameless nepotism of the Bush administration should alarm Americans because it indicates that a dictatorship is encroaching upon the United States.

The Defense Department defines nepotism as the situation when relatives are in the same chain-of-command.

An egregious example of dictatorial-style nepotism occurred when George W. Bush won the White House - twice - thanks to the key "swing state" of Florida, where the presidential candidate's younger brother is governor. In 2000 and 2004, against all odds, Florida swung decisively, the Bush way.

The official canvass from the 2004 election in Florida, certified less than a fortnight after the election by three hand-picked lieutenants of Governor Jeb Bush, shows Republican Members of Congress winning, such as Tom Feeney, without congressional seats without even appearing on the ballot. In other races, a handful of candidates for the Florida state house won with 100 percent of the vote against write-in candidates who didn't even receive 1 vote.

With high federal offices being given to the wives, sons and daughters of senior members of the Bush administration, the Hearst Corporation executives that publish Popular Mechanics magazine probably didn't worry about the ethical considerations of hiring a cousin of Michael Chertoff, a former Assistant Attorney General and the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as senior researcher.

But the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics (PM) plumbs new depths of nepotism and Hearst-style "yellow journalism" with its cover story about 9/11. PM's senior researcher, 25-year-old Benjamin Chertoff, authored a propagandistic cover story entitled "Debunking 9/11 Lies" which seeks to discredit all independent 9/11 research that challenges the official version of events.

"Conspiracy theories can't stand up to the hard facts," the cover reads. "After an in-depth investigation, PM answers with the truth," it says. But the article fails to provide evidence to support its claims and doesn't answer the key question: What caused the collapses of the twin towers and the 47-story World Trade Center 7?

The lead editorial by James Meigs, Editor-in-Chief of PM carries the title "The Lies Are Out There." It continues: "As a society we accept the basic premise that a group of Islamist terrorists hijacked four airplanes and turned them into weapons against us."

But do we, "as a society" accept this basic premise? None of the 19 "Islamist terrorists" were even found on the passenger lists that day.

"Sadly," Meigs continues, "the noble search for truth is now being hijacked by a growing army of conspiracy theorists."

What Meigs fails to acknowledge is that while the fact that a conspiracy is behind the 9/11 attacks is obvious, the question being raised by independent researchers is: Who was involved in this conspiracy?

The Meigs' editorial concludes, "But those who peddle fantasies that this country encouraged, permitted or actually carried out the attacks are libeling the truth - and disgracing the memories of the thousands who died on that day."

Nobody says that the United States of America did anything on 9/11, Mr. Meigs. "This country," the USA doesn't do anything, Mr. Meigs, people do. In the case of 9/11 we are dealing with a very small group of people, perhaps no more than a dozen or so at the highest "architectural" level, and there is no guarantee that they are from any one country - most likely they are not.

The Chertoff article goes on to confront the "poisonous claims" of 16 "myths" spun by "extremist" 9/11 researchers like myself with "irrefutable facts," mostly provided by individuals in the employ of the U.S. government.

But who is Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his "cousin" now heads. This is exactly the kind of "journalism" one would expect to find in a dictatorship like that of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Because the manager of public relations for Popular Mechanics didn't respond to repeated calls from American Free Press, I called Benjamin Chertoff, the magazine's "senior researcher," directly.

Chertoff said he was the "senior researcher" of the piece. When asked if he was related to Michael Chertoff, he said, "I don't know." Clearly uncomfortable about discussing the matter further, he told me that all questions about the article should be put to the publicist - the one who never answers the phone.

Benjamin's mother in Pelham, New York, however, was more willing to talk. Asked if Benjamin was related to the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Judy said, "Yes, of course, he is a cousin."

Finis

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Popular Mechanics is the Bible of the Scientific Dictatorship.

As antiquity gave way to modern history, the religious power structure shifted from Sun worship, to an autocracy of the knowable, or a 'scientific dictatorship.' Subtly and swiftly, the Ruling class seized control of science and used it as an 'epistemological weapon' against the masses.

“The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries. Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown.” Freemason Aldous Huxley in Brave New World Revisited

Can you HANDLE the truth?
[link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]


Dufontaine, What choice do we have but to fight?
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"The cost of revolution is 360 degrees understand the cycle that never ends
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to the world outside my mind your mind
Speak not of revolution until you are ready to eat rats to survive"
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The PM guy was annihilated . . .
"What if everything you ever believed was tied up in a little box and eaten by cute little snails?"
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Popular Mechanics is the Bible of the Scientific Dictatorship.

As antiquity gave way to modern history, the religious power structure shifted from Sun worship, to an autocracy of the knowable, or a 'scientific dictatorship.' Subtly and swiftly, the Ruling class seized control of science and used it as an 'epistemological weapon' against the masses.

“The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries. Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown.” Freemason Aldous Huxley in Brave New World Revisited

Can you HANDLE the truth?
[link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]


Dufontaine, What choice do we have but to fight?



"The cost of revolution is 360 degrees understand the cycle that never ends
Understand the beginning to be the end and nothing is in between
but space and time that I make or you make to relate or not to relate
to the world outside my mind your mind
Speak not of revolution until you are ready to eat rats to survive"
When The Revolution Comes
Written By Abiodun Oyewole
Recorded by The Original Last Poets
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I'm ready to eat rats ... Live on your feet or die on your knees.
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Popular Mechanics is part of the Hearst media empire.

The term "yellow journalism" came from shoddy reporting from Hearst newspapers, most notoriously Hearst's promotion of the fake claim that Spain had blown up the USS Maine in Havana harbor (the pretext for the Spanish-American war)

The neo-Nazi American Free Press / Barnes Review wrote an article shortly after Popular Mechanics published their story claiming that Ben Chertoff, one of the Popular Mechanics writers, is a relative of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. AFP / Barnes has inserted a lot of hoaxes into the "9/11 truth" literature, but they also publish some accurate material. Not surprisingly, Ben Chertoff denies any relation with the other Chertoff - and there has not been any follow-up from a journalist with a track record of accuracy to determine whether this is true or not. Either way, it is just a distraction and possibly bait to discredit the "9/11 truth movement."



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yes ... and;

Cathleen Black is president of Hearst Magazines [link to www.hearst.com]

check out the connection to Halliburton here: [link to www.theyrule.net]

and then we have Michael Chertoff and his connection.
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the neo-con nazi cronies are just putting fuel on the fire to spread the truth, not brainwashing us or what have you. Thanks neo-con nazi cronie guys.

Anyone got any quotes? words of wisdom now? something from JFK, scientists, theosophist, philosopher? just wondering.
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"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." George Orwell

"Men occasionally stumble across the truth. But most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." Winston Churchill
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Put them on our shit list!! they can be hung on the second round!!!
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Popular Mechanics is part of the Hearst media empire.

The term "yellow journalism" came from shoddy reporting from Hearst newspapers, most notoriously Hearst's promotion of the fake claim that Spain had blown up the USS Maine in Havana harbor (the pretext for the Spanish-American war)

The neo-Nazi American Free Press / Barnes Review wrote an article shortly after Popular Mechanics published their story claiming that Ben Chertoff, one of the Popular Mechanics writers, is a relative of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. AFP / Barnes has inserted a lot of hoaxes into the "9/11 truth" literature, but they also publish some accurate material. Not surprisingly, Ben Chertoff denies any relation with the other Chertoff - and there has not been any follow-up from a journalist with a track record of accuracy to determine whether this is true or not. Either way, it is just a distraction and possibly bait to discredit the "9/11 truth movement."



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yes ... and;

Cathleen Black is president of Hearst Magazines [link to www.hearst.com]

check out the connection to Halliburton here: [link to www.theyrule.net]

and then we have Michael Chertoff and his connection.
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What bothers me is that when you start lying, you have to keep lying and expand the lie, making bigger and bigger in order to prevent the truth from coming out.

If you remember Watergate, it was the same situation there. They were at the point where it became necessary to seriously consider killing people to keep the truth from coming out.
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Wasn't one of the PopMech morons trying to suggest that the govt. studied the wreckage and matched DNA to the terrorists? And when the radio host asked him how the govt. obtained the samples of the terrorists to test against, he couldn't answer... These guys are not to be trusted. They're too far past the point where they can issue a mea culpa.
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What bothers me is that when you start lying, you have to keep lying and expand the lie, making bigger and bigger in order to prevent the truth from coming out.

If you remember Watergate, it was the same situation there. They were at the point where it became necessary to seriously consider killing people to keep the truth from coming out.
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They have so much blood on their hands they think nothing of it. Don't let that deter us tho' ;)
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Wasn't one of the PopMech morons trying to suggest that the govt. studied the wreckage and matched DNA to the terrorists? And when the radio host asked him how the govt. obtained the samples of the terrorists to test against, he couldn't answer... These guys are not to be trusted. They're too far past the point where they can issue a mea culpa.
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the guy from pop-tart mechanics "Davin" choked worse than dubya often does. It was embarrassing ... for him, lol.
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Incredible,...

He said that the falling towers knocked a big chunck out of bldg. #7

It would seem that 6 would have been damaged in that case.

This PM shill is transparent.

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and don't forget,

the shill said the reason he knew that a chunk was knocked out was because.

drumm roolllll puleassse.

they had seen photos that no one else had been allowed to see. And they couldn't publish it.
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and don't forget,

the shill said the reason he knew that a chunk was knocked out was because.

drumm roolllll puleassse.

they had seen photos that no one else had been allowed to see. And they couldn't publish it.
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Damn,...I can't believe this guy. I thought he was going cry when pinned about the 'Terrorist's DNA, and how they had sample beforehand..

Great thread title OP. The PM shill was punk'd and debunked hard.

Wow!!

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That was weirdly inept. The last 10 minutes especially so. Backtracking about the DNA, almost comical.
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