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Ayn Rand's warning to us all

 
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Negative. She is setting man free with the power of individual choice.
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no.. she is setting the capitalists free to monopolize the economy and make the plebes the slaves they were destined to be.
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wow, that woman was demonically possessed. did you see her eyes moving back and forth..

wow spooky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55947755


LOL, I guess you've never talked with an in intelligent person before...eye movement equals thought, processing information & forming dialog.

I'll never understand people who fear to love themselves. You have to love yourself before you can be able to give, receive or share love.

If you don't think of yourself first, what can you possibly do for others? If I'm not healthy, mentally, physically & financially, how could I ever give to another?

You do understand that the basis of her philosophy is based from the heart of the original US Constitution, yes? Only she doesn't let religion & emotion cloud her views/beliefs.
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


intelligent? LOL she was a rothschild shill. her rise to fame came because she served the agenda of tptb, not because she was the product of superior intellect.

the architects of the constitution would collectively spat on her and her ilk. you sir are sadly brainwashed. what bothers me most is you are arrogant in your ignorance.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Parrot much? Do some research, regarding your statement of,"The Architects of the Constitution", then get back to me, Skippy.

Ignorant, LOL!
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wow, that woman was demonically possessed. did you see her eyes moving back and forth..

wow spooky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55947755


LOL, I guess you've never talked with an in intelligent person before...eye movement equals thought, processing information & forming dialog.

I'll never understand people who fear to love themselves. You have to love yourself before you can be able to give, receive or share love.

If you don't think of yourself first, what can you possibly do for others? If I'm not healthy, mentally, physically & financially, how could I ever give to another?

You do understand that the basis of her philosophy is based from the heart of the original US Constitution, yes? Only she doesn't let religion & emotion cloud her views/beliefs.
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


intelligent? LOL she was a rothschild shill. her rise to fame came because she served the agenda of tptb, not because she was the product of superior intellect.

the architects of the constitution would collectively spat on her and her ilk. you sir are sadly brainwashed. what bothers me most is you are arrogant in your ignorance.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Parrot much? Do some research, regarding your statement of,"The Architects of the Constitution", then get back to me, Skippy.

Ignorant, LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


i've done probably 40 times the research you have done. i did not parrot anyone. is this the best you can do?

please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

.
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Negative. She is setting man free with the power of individual choice.
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Like a serpent offering a dish of knowledge of right from wrong.
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no.. she is setting the capitalists free to monopolize the economy and make the plebes the slaves they were destined to be.


Unless you allow capitalism to be free, you will be enslaved to the communists in which you so kiss ass.
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 Quoting: Tea Party 1276588


Her observations are astute, except the premise of her position can be simplified by the fact man has and continues to exploit others, and uses the moral precept of "self sacrifice" calling on to others to selfishly serve their purpose.

Ayn Rand was trying to tell the sheep back then "Don't be sheep. They will just eat you!"
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except that she "ran" with the wolves. that's the part 99% of her followers just can't comprehend.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


To me, she really hasn't said anything I've come to realize myself, that there are very selfish powers that govern this word and that have driven and continues to drive the course of history. And if I continue to let them I'll be driven off a cliff.

I don't think Ms. Rand would have cared to have followers, because that would be like what sheep do.
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wow, that woman was demonically possessed. did you see her eyes moving back and forth..

wow spooky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55947755


LOL, I guess you've never talked with an in intelligent person before...eye movement equals thought, processing information & forming dialog.

I'll never understand people who fear to love themselves. You have to love yourself before you can be able to give, receive or share love.

If you don't think of yourself first, what can you possibly do for others? If I'm not healthy, mentally, physically & financially, how could I ever give to another?

You do understand that the basis of her philosophy is based from the heart of the original US Constitution, yes? Only she doesn't let religion & emotion cloud her views/beliefs.
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


Except for the parts that say 'WE the PEOPLE' 'OONE nation under GOD'

LOL.

They were sure to put that in there as they were God fearing students of the Scottish enlightenment.
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I'd say only "One Nation Under God", as she did believe that the government should be governed by the people, with limited control and responsibilities.
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There is a reason that when people describe our country's system they describe it as Judeo-Christian, note please that the Judeo always comes first.
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She was a total turd, and her books are awful and unreadable.
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About government and politics, I agree with her.

About altruism, not at all.
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no.. she is setting the capitalists free to monopolize the economy and make the plebes the slaves they were destined to be.
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Unless you allow capitalism to be free, you will be enslaved to the communists in which you so kiss ass.



please dear God, tell me you are kidding?
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The architects of the Constitution weren't American dummy. Patriots yes but not classified American yet. You can't consider that era through a U.S.A. lens.
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Judas was self-interestted.

Satan, self-interested.

Wall Street and global stock markets, self interest.

But why does the welfare recipient cop the most hell for being self-interested?

The system runs on it!

I bet if you loved your fellow countrymen you wouldn't mind that your taxes went to them instead of forcing them and your country into desperation.

It is because your countrymen don't have common values to begin with that you despise 'slackers'.

Self-interest is the excuse and the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19611451


*Turn on a tap, our water is supplied (and medicated)

*Our food comes wrapped in plastic and drenched in preservatives

*Our bodies defenses against disease and infection have been handed over to the state by means of a pill and a needle

*We need a "license" for every phukking thing we do.

*We cannot house ourselfs on this planet (which we where born into naturally, like every other animal), with out paying someone else for the "privilege" to do so.

*Our careers (majority of our time on the planet) are pre-planned and regulated.

I would say that if we a took an interest in the requirements of self, then collectively we would have many many more healthier and happier "selfs" on the planet.

Ever seen a Horse that has been fed with hay for a few weeks????? what does it do?????? It stands at the gate all day waiting for you to feed it. even if its paddock regrows all its fresh grass. This horse sufferers because it is loved by its fellow being (man). It needs to reconsider its self interest.... there's a whole planet never mind paddock, out there full of happiness (green acres) for a horse, but its sits at the fence waiting for a feed subject to the farmers saddle or the farmers bullet. The whole planet of humans are animals waiting at the gate for the farmer (fellow man or governments) to feed them, subject to the farmers wishes (his bullet or saddle) instead of their own.

Lions don't have or need governments, they survive by their own self interest. Pelicans don't have or need governments they survive by their own self interests. Every one of the other beings on the planet love themselves first, and also love others that help them to love themselves, to varying degrees (some are more solitary than others)

to me ayn rand is saying... take back control of your own life, don't leave it in the hands of others. get selfish to the point that you can provide your own health and happiness and well being. but don't take more than you need to be selfish.
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Yeah, the old testament came before the new. Your point?
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seriously dude.. stop. this isn't your area of expertise.

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That's all you got?
 Quoting: Fire Watch



LOL... umm if you did a simple search you would see the answer to your question is no. as far as the reply to that one particular comment? why would you so quickly make an inaccurate assumption?


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Why is his opinion not valid? What do you know about his expertise?
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I didn't know I had to be an expert to form my own opinion?

And to the AC, sorry if I hit a nerve, I just call em as I see em!
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If she would have had children, her whole attitude about serving others (voluntarily) would have changed 180"!
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Remember Jesus said, I came to serve not be served!

She taught just the opposite..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55947755


She is teaching free will.

God is all for free will last I checked.

What you do with yours is up to you, you have no right to force others to serve.
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She was a total turd, and her books are awful and unreadable.
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In my eyes Ann, has already been exposed, but that does not mean she has never said anything good or logical , she has, but her as a whole is a fraud for the banking class.
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She is brilliant.
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LOL, I guess you've never talked with an in intelligent person before...eye movement equals thought, processing information & forming dialog.

I'll never understand people who fear to love themselves. You have to love yourself before you can be able to give, receive or share love.

If you don't think of yourself first, what can you possibly do for others? If I'm not healthy, mentally, physically & financially, how could I ever give to another?

You do understand that the basis of her philosophy is based from the heart of the original US Constitution, yes? Only she doesn't let religion & emotion cloud her views/beliefs.
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


intelligent? LOL she was a rothschild shill. her rise to fame came because she served the agenda of tptb, not because she was the product of superior intellect.

the architects of the constitution would collectively spat on her and her ilk. you sir are sadly brainwashed. what bothers me most is you are arrogant in your ignorance.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Parrot much? Do some research, regarding your statement of,"The Architects of the Constitution", then get back to me, Skippy.

Ignorant, LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


i've done probably 40 times the research you have done. i did not parrot anyone. is this the best you can do?

please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....heard that so many times on here, yet you never answer the question...do ya?

LOL!
"The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering"

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Judas was self-interestted.

Satan, self-interested.

Wall Street and global stock markets, self interest.

But why does the welfare recipient cop the most hell for being self-interested?

The system runs on it!

I bet if you loved your fellow countrymen you wouldn't mind that your taxes went to them instead of forcing them and your country into desperation.

It is because your countrymen don't have common values to begin with that you despise 'slackers'.

Self-interest is the excuse and the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19611451


*Turn on a tap, our water is supplied (and medicated)

*Our food comes wrapped in plastic and drenched in preservatives

*Our bodies defenses against disease and infection have been handed over to the state by means of a pill and a needle

*We need a "license" for every phukking thing we do.

*We cannot house ourselfs on this planet (which we where born into naturally, like every other animal), with out paying someone else for the "privilege" to do so.

*Our careers (majority of our time on the planet) are pre-planned and regulated.

I would say that if we a took an interest in the requirements of self, then collectively we would have many many more healthier and happier "selfs" on the planet.

Ever seen a Horse that has been fed with hay for a few weeks????? what does it do?????? It stands at the gate all day waiting for you to feed it. even if its paddock regrows all its fresh grass. This horse sufferers because it is loved by its fellow being (man). It needs to reconsider its self interest.... there's a whole planet never mind paddock, out there full of happiness (green acres) for a horse, but its sits at the fence waiting for a feed subject to the farmers saddle or the farmers bullet. The whole planet of humans are animals waiting at the gate for the farmer (fellow man or governments) to feed them, subject to the farmers wishes (his bullet or saddle) instead of their own.

Lions don't have or need governments, they survive by their own self interest. Pelicans don't have or need governments they survive by their own self interests. Every one of the other beings on the planet love themselves first, and also love others that help them to love themselves, to varying degrees (some are more solitary than others)

to me ayn rand is saying... take back control of your own life, don't leave it in the hands of others. get selfish to the point that you can provide your own health and happiness and well being. but don't take more than you need to be selfish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63451382


It's called tyranny. I agree with your points indeed.

Healthy self-interest coincides with collective harmony.

And survival is not considered self-interest sorry.
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The Fountainhead is as good a read as Atlas Shrugged...a great message and lesson for those who will listen and learn.
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Remember Jesus said, I came to serve not be served!

She taught just the opposite..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55947755


She is teaching free will.

God is all for free will last I checked.

What you do with yours is up to you, you have no right to force others to serve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44773648


she is advocating acting as if there is no Biblical God... her god was reason. she also advocated laissez-faire capitalism which was one of the stages the rothschilds used to monopolize the world.

name two fake ideologies that push the no god meme? communism and ayn rand's objectivism.

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please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

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What's wrong with allowing the markets choice? Or put another way, why do you feel compelled to control the free-choice of others, what they produce, buy and sell?

Laissez-faire is ultimate freedom, something which we haven't seen in our life-times. If we had it you would see un-paralled growth in all sectors, except public sector.
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When one allows government to charge you to be free, you are no longer free.
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intelligent? LOL she was a rothschild shill. her rise to fame came because she served the agenda of tptb, not because she was the product of superior intellect.

the architects of the constitution would collectively spat on her and her ilk. you sir are sadly brainwashed. what bothers me most is you are arrogant in your ignorance.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Parrot much? Do some research, regarding your statement of,"The Architects of the Constitution", then get back to me, Skippy.

Ignorant, LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


i've done probably 40 times the research you have done. i did not parrot anyone. is this the best you can do?

please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....heard that so many times on here, yet you never answer the question...do ya?

LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


which question?
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It's true that ugly people have ugly ideas.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68426709


What's wrong with allowing the markets choice? Or put another way, why do you feel compelled to control the free-choice of others, what they produce, buy and sell?

Laissez-faire is ultimate freedom, something which we haven't seen in our life-times. If we had it you would see un-paralled growth in all sectors, except public sector.


Except for the fact it is relying on 'iinfinite growth' or a monopoly.
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For all her wrongs, she was at least right in her thing against (brutalist) architecture, and leaving the cities to go live in the mountains and jungles.

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You can see by her face she was a meth addict- got the crazy in the eyes. I found her books to be dreadfully boring, as are most of the people inspired by them. Give me Huxley/Orwell/Bradbury over that wench any day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2823155


actually, she was a speed freak, but in her day it was dexedrine, amphetamine, and she smoked like 4 packs of cigs a day

she was infamous for her cruelty to her own people, people who worked for or with her

many felt she was mentally ill

by today's standards she would be diagnosed with a dual disorder of sociopath and narcissistic personality
 Quoting: Salt


And promptly put on meds to stifle her free thinking and voice, then have her rights taken as she would be deemed mentally ill. Her "people" were free to leave if they didn't like her.
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Parrot much? Do some research, regarding your statement of,"The Architects of the Constitution", then get back to me, Skippy.

Ignorant, LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


i've done probably 40 times the research you have done. i did not parrot anyone. is this the best you can do?

please start by defending laissez-faire capitalism. (this should be fun)

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....heard that so many times on here, yet you never answer the question...do ya?

LOL!
 Quoting: Dog Wayne


which question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67942063


Really? And you called me ignorant, LOL!
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