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IF YOU HATE MUSLIMS AND ISLAM -Then I would suggest that you watch this video if you are so certain about your beliefs and hatred towards muslims

 
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1. Honor killings
2. Genital mutilation

Islam is evil and perverted. It needs to be wiped from the face of the earth.
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what is perverted is peoples misinterpetations of the great holy books that is where religion fails if you understand the bible says jesus says most pretend to understand and worship but they do not really as i teach in parables
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You're probably a nice fella and I'm sure many Muslims are. However....the bottom line problem is that Islam IS NOT compatible with Western Civilization. It simply is not. Western Civilization is ultimately about the drive of the individual to be able to be independent and as free as possible from the restraints of government (yes, we have been regressing the past few decades)to be the best person he/she can be. It's drive is towards increasing secularization in our lives.

Islam is about the group, the masses, controlling the lives of individuals. Individuals don't matter in Islam, only the group does. Islam is about the complete takeover of all aspects of life - religious, family, political, financial, legal - by Islam. It is the COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of everything Western Civilization has been about for over 2000 years.

We CANNOT get along. Our basic beliefs and goals are FUNDAMENTALLY different. Any similarity is PURELY accidental and superficial. The two societies will inevitably be in conflict and MUST MUST MUST be kept apart.

There can be no compromise here. One side or the other wins...or we stay separate which is (and has been) the best solution.
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Unfortunately, we can't kill all of them. But we could make it easier for them to set up their Caliphate. Let them do what they want in their borders. Neutron bomb them if they start up with expansionist ideas again.
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They both need to move to Saudi or die.
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ISIS are the biggest threat to islam ever isis are not islamic they are a bunch of angry cowards with nothing else to do in thier lives but misinterpept the words of the quran for thier agendas
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muslims= rotten shit
christians= shit
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You're probably a nice fella and I'm sure many Muslims are. However....the bottom line problem is that Islam IS NOT compatible with Western Civilization. It simply is not. Western Civilization is ultimately about the drive of the individual to be able to be independent and as free as possible from the restraints of government (yes, we have been regressing the past few decades)to be the best person he/she can be. It's drive is towards increasing secularization in our lives.

Islam is about the group, the masses, controlling the lives of individuals. Individuals don't matter in Islam, only the group does. Islam is about the complete takeover of all aspects of life - religious, family, political, financial, legal - by Islam. It is the COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of everything Western Civilization has been about for over 2000 years.

We CANNOT get along. Our basic beliefs and goals are FUNDAMENTALLY different. Any similarity is PURELY accidental and superficial. The two societies will inevitably be in conflict and MUST MUST MUST be kept apart.

There can be no compromise here. One side or the other wins...or we stay separate which is (and has been) the best solution.
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Unfortunately, we can't kill all of them. But we could make it easier for them to set up their Caliphate. Let them do what they want in their borders. Neutron bomb them if they start up with expansionist ideas again.
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I don't even see the Muslims as the fundamental problem. The fundamental problem is the leaders of the West interfering in Muslim countries and their internal business and then BRINGING IN MILLIONS OF THEM INTO OUR COUNTRIES where they can ONLY be a disruption as our cultures inherently and eternally clash. They should NEVER have been allowed to immigrate into the West en masse. We should force as many as possible to leave and stop bringing in new ones. And we should get the HELL OUT OF THEIR COUNTRIES and leave them alone to do what they want. As long as they do it in their own countries, it's their business.

But it's all about wanting oil and slave labor for the super rich owners of everything.
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The point of posting this video is to highlight the fact.


That Muslims are daily portrayed as the worst of humans by the media, governments...

It is easy to judge without understanding and to make an assumption without correct understanding or knowledge.

Now I want all those against Islam to understand one thing.
I am a Muslim

- I believe that anyone who harms another Human cannot be a true Muslim. So anyone who takes part in terrorism or terrorist acts is not a Muslim. Terrorism is not self defense. Killing of innocent people is not a part of Islam. Self defense or defending a land is permissible in Islam as it is to any rationale thinker. If the UK or America was attacked by another country would they not defend the land. So it is clear anybody the so called terrorist groups or terrorists harming innocent people have no place in Islam they are cowards. If they defended there land on there own terrorist then they would be justified.

BUT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION IN ISLAM FOR ANY TERRORIST ACTS.

Whoever slays a soul, unless it be for a manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

All the believers are sons of Adam (a.s.) and brothers to one another. One who kills another person perpetrates a great evil and instigates a feeling of malice, revenge and hatred among people.
Now for a second please forget all the biased new reports and things you have been told or shown or have read from doctored history..

Judaism - Christianity - Islam all follow the same religion. They all follow the same God the Adam (PBUH) , Moses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH) Muhammad (PBUH)

The only difference is that Jews believe they where the chosen nation and they rejected the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) who came after Moses (PBUH)

Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) to be God and reject Muhammad (PBUH)

Muslims believe Jesus (PBUH) was never God but only a prophet like all the other prophets
And believe that Muhammad (PBUH) Was the final messenger to all mankind

Muslims believe that Jesus (PBUH) Will return to earth in the second coming as he never died as God raised his soul. He is the only messenger who did not die on earth. And the other reasoning for his return is to prove to those who say he is god. To prove them that he is only a prophet and not god

And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?



Even if you just look at the names of the religions
Judaism - Is named after the tribe of Juda
Christianity - Jesus PBUH never called himself a Christian - The enemy's of Jesus (pbuh) him said they are the Christians.
Islam - Means Submission (Submission to the will of the one god)
Even in the names is a sign for men of understanding all others have names derived from what is created by god.
However Islam simply means Submission- and a Muslim is simply one who submits to the Creator the one god.
So in essence All the prophets from Adam PBUH to Muhammad PBUH came with the same message to submit to the oneness of god.

AS A MUSLIM -
I believe that any Muslim living in a country that is non Muslim should respect that country with the utmost respect. Not try to impose Islam on that country or its citizens- there is no harm in dialogue or peaceful talks about faith but Islam cannot and should not be forced on anyone.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taught and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

As such any Muslim living in non Muslim country should respect that country and live peacefully in that country and not be a cause of problems for that country. They have allowed you to practice your faith peacefully as a muslim so do not forcefully impose your faith on them. And anyone doing has truly misunderstood the message of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as that was not his message. People became Muslim in the time of Muhammed (PBUH) not by force but by his example.

THE JEWS CHRISTIANS MUSLIMS need to accept that we have the same roots we have differences but in essence we are all the children of ADAM (PBUH) and follow the same creator and God of prophet ADAM (PBUH)

So as such what religion did ADAM (PBUH) Follow ????? He just worshiped the one god who created him.. So then what must we do???

JEWS - CHRISTIANS - MUSLIMS - CAN ALL LIVE PEACEFULLY TOGETHER
as they have done throughout TRUE history not the the doctored versions of history which where changed like and altered like the bible for obvious reasons to discredit muslims and the true religion.

What you have to ask your self as a Christian is - IF YOU ACCEPT Jesus only to be a prophet and not God then you are in fact following the same faith as muslims.

For all those that fear Muslims want to create sharia law..... And govern everyone else.. How come Muhammad (PBUH) lived peacefully with the other nations, lived side by side with Jews and Christians before they where attacked by the crusades and forced to defend themselves....
Islam has often been called the “religion of the sword,” because of the frequent use of

War terminology throughout the Quran. This is in some ways accurate, but in others misleading. While such terminology is found in greater concentration in the Qur’an than in the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament, it is always within a defining context. Muslims are not commanded by the Qur’an to fight whomever they please; rather, a jihad, which in the Qur’an means a “struggle or striving against evil,” may be fought in the political sense only “against those who prohibit worship, those who create injustice, and those who force believers into exile.”

Moreover, the term jihad refers to four kinds of struggles: those of the heart, those of the tongue, those of the hand, and those of the sword. Only the jihad of the sword, the political and military sense, is of relevance here. This form of jihad developed as a response to the oppression of the first Muslims by the Meccans, and was an intensifying of the small tribal battles known as ghazw; wars on the scale of the jihad were new to the Middle East at that time. The early jihads after Muhammad (PBUH) seem to have been fought primarily for reasons of economic and political power; the Arabs were here the aggressors, no the oppressed, as in the conditions outlined above.
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MOOHOMID WAS A PEDOPHILE,AND KILLING THROUGH OUT HISTORY FOR THEIR GOD,AND STILL KILLING WITHOUT ANY RESISTANCE FROM YOUR MODERATES.NOT A PEEP,EXCEPT DEATH TO AMERICA.YOU ARE BULLSHIT,YOUR RELIGEON IS BULLSHIT,AND WE WILL SHIP ALL OF YOU OUT OF HERE THE NEXT TIME ANY TERRORIST SCREWS WITH US.BE ON GUARD,YOUR TIME GROWS CLOSE.
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All religion is ridiculous bullshit but Islam takes it to another level.

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The muslims are simpletons as islam is a lie. It has no basis of fact and is a perverted logic of all the worst in man, period.
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ISIS are the biggest threat to islam ever isis are not islamic they are a bunch of angry cowards with nothing else to do in thier lives but misinterpept the words of the quran for thier agendas
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yea i think everyone knows isis is like a no-id world army of bad guys. hired to do what nations cant do in their own name. something like that. kinda genius and extremely worrying.

the world is turning into a marvel comic book i guess.
i mean isis isnt some taliban of angry loals with big dreams. isis is like a smoothly running international operation with production teams. marketing strategies etc etc
their execution videos are just weirdly unrealistic and like from a twhilight zone.

in a GLP conspiracy world one would think america tried everything else and faild so they took a new strategy by getting a new president that doesnt have to deal with being seen as a white redneck. he officially makes good with what used to be 'enemys' all while they form a secret army that fights under the flag of the enemy. but you never know whats real. because have they even ever been enemys? is this one big plan for something way bigger? i mean theres so many layers and possibilitys. all i know is most people have complete fear of isis and its soldiers way of bringing distruction. but at the same time people feel like if they are so big and professional etc. why isnt there more actual terrorism? because that hardly happens over here (yet)
so is it really all focused on iran? or a true plan of world domination?
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1. Honor killings
2. Genital mutilation

Islam is evil and perverted. It needs to be wiped from the face of the earth.
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OP : may I suggest instead of doing your dawa here, turn your energy to those SOBs that habitually behead Christians and all those other horrific acts that are being committed on a now daily basis. Looks like your efforts are very needed there.
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This is true. if muslims were to activly criticise their bad brothers and sisters, maybe people would start to respect the fact that there are different muslims rather than just terrorists. but that never happens. and when it does its by politicians aiming for a new job wih steal feels like a set up.

i have muslims at work. they are like any other people and dont even talk about this shit. noone has a problem with them. just like how noones cares about the jehovas working there. were there for work and talk about basic stuff. so people are just people. its awesome. my point is. dont try to seperate yourself from the rest and people probably wont even care.
heck i was a the casino last week and our dealer got switched from an elderly older white women to a young turkish girl who wasnt even a muslim. some old cracker (white like me) talked some shit to her at first. i told him she just happened to be born somewhere and simply lives here and works at the casino. the thing he likes to visit. why the hell was he talking shit to her? he became really nice to her and everyone else after that.

point being. dude was older and thought me and my friends are probably on the anti-muslim bandwagon, so he talked shit trying to be down with us i guess. or to impress. but soon as i told him that shit was kinda dumb and made him look like a depressed sad old man he stopped and became himself again. a nice guy. he had fun, she had fun, we had fun. felt good.
the girl even gave me a free drink. i think because she was happy about what happened (rather then just starting her workday and hearing comments about pigs and bacon every minute, even tho she didnt even care because she loves her some mcdonalds and wasnt even a muslim to begin with)

#awesome

ps: would the older dude have continued she probably actually would have started to disslike people like him and might turn into a racist herself. and over what?! stupid shit.
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ISLAM IS NOT A RACE

There is no "moderate" ISLAM; there is only submission to a book and a theocratic slavery, and, by definition, submission. There is only ISLAM.

Worship of ALLAH=worship of the Sun/Moon/Isis/Osiris/Bel/Baal.

Good luck with that.
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Here's the deal....the just pay the price for the unjust...unfortunately there's a lot of cruddy mooslims...too bad for the good ones...that's the way the rock falls...take off your shoes at the airport...do you personally do anything...nope...but some low life did so now everyone suffers...the way of the disgusting world..deal with it.
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'That Muslims are daily portrayed as the worst of humans by the media, governments...'




Actually you wanker MSM bends over backwards to portray muslims as innocent victims that have nothing whatsoever to do with Terrorism.

They are sort of obliged to report on a few of the more egregious acts of murder and terrorism, but strictly without mentioning motive of Islam - if they can they try to portray the actions of these 'militants' as motivated by - Western provocations, injustice, poverty, ignorance etc.

But of course some of the public are able to see through the lies and recognise that the core mission of Islam is to terrorise the infidels into submission, take over the world, kill every last unbeliever and extinguish their history forever - whether it is by slow stealth demographic jihad or fast terrorist jihad.

You people are the devils spawn - when Western people wake up from their PC trance we will eradicate every last one of you from the face of the earth!
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The point of posting this video is to highlight the fact.


That Muslims are daily portrayed as the worst of humans by the media, governments...

It is easy to judge without understanding and to make an assumption without correct understanding or knowledge.

Now I want all those against Islam to understand one thing.
I am a Muslim

- I believe that anyone who harms another Human cannot be a true Muslim. So anyone who takes part in terrorism or terrorist acts is not a Muslim. Terrorism is not self defense. Killing of innocent people is not a part of Islam. Self defense or defending a land is permissible in Islam as it is to any rationale thinker. If the UK or America was attacked by another country would they not defend the land. So it is clear anybody the so called terrorist groups or terrorists harming innocent people have no place in Islam they are cowards. If they defended there land on there own terrorist then they would be justified.

BUT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION IN ISLAM FOR ANY TERRORIST ACTS.

Whoever slays a soul, unless it be for a manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

All the believers are sons of Adam (a.s.) and brothers to one another. One who kills another person perpetrates a great evil and instigates a feeling of malice, revenge and hatred among people.
Now for a second please forget all the biased new reports and things you have been told or shown or have read from doctored history..

Judaism - Christianity - Islam all follow the same religion. They all follow the same God the Adam (PBUH) , Moses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH) Muhammad (PBUH)

The only difference is that Jews believe they where the chosen nation and they rejected the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) who came after Moses (PBUH)

Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) to be God and reject Muhammad (PBUH)

Muslims believe Jesus (PBUH) was never God but only a prophet like all the other prophets
And believe that Muhammad (PBUH) Was the final messenger to all mankind

Muslims believe that Jesus (PBUH) Will return to earth in the second coming as he never died as God raised his soul. He is the only messenger who did not die on earth. And the other reasoning for his return is to prove to those who say he is god. To prove them that he is only a prophet and not god

And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?



Even if you just look at the names of the religions
Judaism - Is named after the tribe of Juda
Christianity - Jesus PBUH never called himself a Christian - The enemy's of Jesus (pbuh) him said they are the Christians.
Islam - Means Submission (Submission to the will of the one god)
Even in the names is a sign for men of understanding all others have names derived from what is created by god.
However Islam simply means Submission- and a Muslim is simply one who submits to the Creator the one god.
So in essence All the prophets from Adam PBUH to Muhammad PBUH came with the same message to submit to the oneness of god.

AS A MUSLIM -
I believe that any Muslim living in a country that is non Muslim should respect that country with the utmost respect. Not try to impose Islam on that country or its citizens- there is no harm in dialogue or peaceful talks about faith but Islam cannot and should not be forced on anyone.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taught and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

As such any Muslim living in non Muslim country should respect that country and live peacefully in that country and not be a cause of problems for that country. They have allowed you to practice your faith peacefully as a muslim so do not forcefully impose your faith on them. And anyone doing has truly misunderstood the message of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as that was not his message. People became Muslim in the time of Muhammed (PBUH) not by force but by his example.

THE JEWS CHRISTIANS MUSLIMS need to accept that we have the same roots we have differences but in essence we are all the children of ADAM (PBUH) and follow the same creator and God of prophet ADAM (PBUH)

So as such what religion did ADAM (PBUH) Follow ????? He just worshiped the one god who created him.. So then what must we do???

JEWS - CHRISTIANS - MUSLIMS - CAN ALL LIVE PEACEFULLY TOGETHER
as they have done throughout TRUE history not the the doctored versions of history which where changed like and altered like the bible for obvious reasons to discredit muslims and the true religion.

What you have to ask your self as a Christian is - IF YOU ACCEPT Jesus only to be a prophet and not God then you are in fact following the same faith as muslims.

For all those that fear Muslims want to create sharia law..... And govern everyone else.. How come Muhammad (PBUH) lived peacefully with the other nations, lived side by side with Jews and Christians before they where attacked by the crusades and forced to defend themselves....
Islam has often been called the “religion of the sword,” because of the frequent use of

War terminology throughout the Quran. This is in some ways accurate, but in others misleading. While such terminology is found in greater concentration in the Qur’an than in the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament, it is always within a defining context. Muslims are not commanded by the Qur’an to fight whomever they please; rather, a jihad, which in the Qur’an means a “struggle or striving against evil,” may be fought in the political sense only “against those who prohibit worship, those who create injustice, and those who force believers into exile.”

Moreover, the term jihad refers to four kinds of struggles: those of the heart, those of the tongue, those of the hand, and those of the sword. Only the jihad of the sword, the political and military sense, is of relevance here. This form of jihad developed as a response to the oppression of the first Muslims by the Meccans, and was an intensifying of the small tribal battles known as ghazw; wars on the scale of the jihad were new to the Middle East at that time. The early jihads after Muhammad (PBUH) seem to have been fought primarily for reasons of economic and political power; the Arabs were here the aggressors, no the oppressed, as in the conditions outlined above.
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Given that I was a Muslim and will never again go back to Fuckslam religion, I can tell you all that this is a propaganda message to get naive Christians to convert. DO NOT DO IT. Sunni Islam is a curse on Humanity. Also, these two filthy Muslims are Sunni extremists and follow either Wahhabi or Salafi ideology; Islams most extreme versions. Notice how they have a long beard and the shaved mustache. It is the way true waahabis and salafis practice Islam as they believe that you should follow the ways of the Prophet Muhammad. They will never admit it, but they also believe that it is okay to marry a 6 year-old as the prophet did.

I left Islam after I came back from deployment and I am thankful for my decision. 95% of Sunni Islam wants a non-secular society and to be ruled by a Caliphate with Sharia Law as the universal constitution. They want to conquer the world. Sunni Islam is very evil. They call it "Halal" to behead anyone who is not a Sunni Muslim and does not convert to Sunni Islam. It is the teaching of the Wahhabi and Salafi ideologies.

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OP : may I suggest instead of doing your dawa here, turn your energy to those SOBs that habitually behead Christians and all those other horrific acts that are being committed on a now daily basis. Looks like your efforts are very needed there.
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^^^This^^^

Why do all these so called good Muslims allow these atrocities to be committed in the name of their religion? As long as this is happening, don't expect much love and understanding.


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I'm not going to read through the wall of crap. I've read it all before. Let me guess. It goes a little something like this. I'm a moderate and terrorists are not Muslims, blah blah we are peaceful loving people, blah blah. Ok fine. Then it should be YOU stopping the radicals! YOU should be fighting them. I'm not religious, but I was raised around Christians. Sorry, but I can't think of one time I ever went hmmmm wonder if they have a bomb strapped under their coat?
If you want Islam to have a reputation of love and peace then YOU need to fix it! Not me and not the Christians.
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They are still statists willing to use force to push their beliefs.
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You're probably a nice fella and I'm sure many Muslims are. However....the bottom line problem is that Islam IS NOT compatible with Western Civilization. It simply is not. Western Civilization is ultimately about the drive of the individual to be able to be independent and as free as possible from the restraints of government (yes, we have been regressing the past few decades)to be the best person he/she can be. It's drive is towards increasing secularization in our lives.

Islam is about the group, the masses, controlling the lives of individuals. Individuals don't matter in Islam, only the group does. Islam is about the complete takeover of all aspects of life - religious, family, political, financial, legal - by Islam. It is the COMPLETE ANTITHESIS of everything Western Civilization has been about for over 2000 years.

We CANNOT get along. Our basic beliefs and goals are FUNDAMENTALLY different. Any similarity is PURELY accidental and superficial. The two societies will inevitably be in conflict and MUST MUST MUST be kept apart.

There can be no compromise here. One side or the other wins...or we stay separate which is (and has been) the best solution.
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This is the best summary I've read to date of the Muslim/Occidental world conflict.

Especially in the US, we are not a collective. We are individuals. Our worldviews are completely opposite.

I deal with lots of pleasant Muslims daily in my work.

But it is absolutely and totally obvious that there are huge cultural differences. The two things that stand out the most are: 1) willingness to lie/argue to save face/save money. This is really and truly offensive in the West. 2) the treatment of women and girl children.

I'm not sure what the solution is except suspending all further Muslim immigration to the West and keeping a very, very close eye on immigrants already here.

I think the West's right to survive with its cultures intact trumps immigration.

Not everyone will agree with me, but I'd much rather take in Christian people from our own hemisphere than Muslims from the Middle East.
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The point of posting this video is to highlight the fact.


That Muslims are daily portrayed as the worst of humans by the media, governments...

It is easy to judge without understanding and to make an assumption without correct understanding or knowledge.

Now I want all those against Islam to understand one thing.
I am a Muslim

- I believe that anyone who harms another Human cannot be a true Muslim. So anyone who takes part in terrorism or terrorist acts is not a Muslim. Terrorism is not self defense. Killing of innocent people is not a part of Islam. Self defense or defending a land is permissible in Islam as it is to any rationale thinker. If the UK or America was attacked by another country would they not defend the land. So it is clear anybody the so called terrorist groups or terrorists harming innocent people have no place in Islam they are cowards. If they defended there land on there own terrorist then they would be justified.

BUT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION IN ISLAM FOR ANY TERRORIST ACTS.

Whoever slays a soul, unless it be for a manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

All the believers are sons of Adam (a.s.) and brothers to one another. One who kills another person perpetrates a great evil and instigates a feeling of malice, revenge and hatred among people.
Now for a second please forget all the biased new reports and things you have been told or shown or have read from doctored history..

Judaism - Christianity - Islam all follow the same religion. They all follow the same God the Adam (PBUH) , Moses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH) Muhammad (PBUH)

The only difference is that Jews believe they where the chosen nation and they rejected the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) who came after Moses (PBUH)

Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) to be God and reject Muhammad (PBUH)

Muslims believe Jesus (PBUH) was never God but only a prophet like all the other prophets
And believe that Muhammad (PBUH) Was the final messenger to all mankind

Muslims believe that Jesus (PBUH) Will return to earth in the second coming as he never died as God raised his soul. He is the only messenger who did not die on earth. And the other reasoning for his return is to prove to those who say he is god. To prove them that he is only a prophet and not god

And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?



Even if you just look at the names of the religions
Judaism - Is named after the tribe of Juda
Christianity - Jesus PBUH never called himself a Christian - The enemy's of Jesus (pbuh) him said they are the Christians.
Islam - Means Submission (Submission to the will of the one god)
Even in the names is a sign for men of understanding all others have names derived from what is created by god.
However Islam simply means Submission- and a Muslim is simply one who submits to the Creator the one god.
So in essence All the prophets from Adam PBUH to Muhammad PBUH came with the same message to submit to the oneness of god.

AS A MUSLIM -
I believe that any Muslim living in a country that is non Muslim should respect that country with the utmost respect. Not try to impose Islam on that country or its citizens- there is no harm in dialogue or peaceful talks about faith but Islam cannot and should not be forced on anyone.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taught and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

As such any Muslim living in non Muslim country should respect that country and live peacefully in that country and not be a cause of problems for that country. They have allowed you to practice your faith peacefully as a muslim so do not forcefully impose your faith on them. And anyone doing has truly misunderstood the message of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as that was not his message. People became Muslim in the time of Muhammed (PBUH) not by force but by his example.

THE JEWS CHRISTIANS MUSLIMS need to accept that we have the same roots we have differences but in essence we are all the children of ADAM (PBUH) and follow the same creator and God of prophet ADAM (PBUH)

So as such what religion did ADAM (PBUH) Follow ????? He just worshiped the one god who created him.. So then what must we do???

JEWS - CHRISTIANS - MUSLIMS - CAN ALL LIVE PEACEFULLY TOGETHER
as they have done throughout TRUE history not the the doctored versions of history which where changed like and altered like the bible for obvious reasons to discredit muslims and the true religion.

What you have to ask your self as a Christian is - IF YOU ACCEPT Jesus only to be a prophet and not God then you are in fact following the same faith as muslims.

For all those that fear Muslims want to create sharia law..... And govern everyone else.. How come Muhammad (PBUH) lived peacefully with the other nations, lived side by side with Jews and Christians before they where attacked by the crusades and forced to defend themselves....
Islam has often been called the “religion of the sword,” because of the frequent use of

War terminology throughout the Quran. This is in some ways accurate, but in others misleading. While such terminology is found in greater concentration in the Qur’an than in the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament, it is always within a defining context. Muslims are not commanded by the Qur’an to fight whomever they please; rather, a jihad, which in the Qur’an means a “struggle or striving against evil,” may be fought in the political sense only “against those who prohibit worship, those who create injustice, and those who force believers into exile.”

Moreover, the term jihad refers to four kinds of struggles: those of the heart, those of the tongue, those of the hand, and those of the sword. Only the jihad of the sword, the political and military sense, is of relevance here. This form of jihad developed as a response to the oppression of the first Muslims by the Meccans, and was an intensifying of the small tribal battles known as ghazw; wars on the scale of the jihad were new to the Middle East at that time. The early jihads after Muhammad (PBUH) seem to have been fought primarily for reasons of economic and political power; the Arabs were here the aggressors, no the oppressed, as in the conditions outlined above.
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A Sunni muslim will never understand what this song means...
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OP : may I suggest instead of doing your dawa here, turn your energy to those SOBs that habitually behead Christians and all those other horrific acts that are being committed on a now daily basis. Looks like your efforts are very needed there.
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^^^This^^^

Why do all these so called good Muslims allow these atrocities to be committed in the name of their religion? As long as this is happening, don't expect much love and understanding.


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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ x 10^infinityhf
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Slave cult that grows by taking more slaves:

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I don't go over there and demand that they act Western. Keep them over there, nobody wants them here. Bunch of smelly violent wierdos.
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Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!

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The point of posting this video is to highlight the fact.


That Muslims are daily portrayed as the worst of humans by the media, governments...

It is easy to judge without understanding and to make an assumption without correct understanding or knowledge.

Now I want all those against Islam to understand one thing.
I am a Muslim

- I believe that anyone who harms another Human cannot be a true Muslim. So anyone who takes part in terrorism or terrorist acts is not a Muslim. Terrorism is not self defense. Killing of innocent people is not a part of Islam. Self defense or defending a land is permissible in Islam as it is to any rationale thinker. If the UK or America was attacked by another country would they not defend the land. So it is clear anybody the so called terrorist groups or terrorists harming innocent people have no place in Islam they are cowards. If they defended there land on there own terrorist then they would be justified.

BUT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION IN ISLAM FOR ANY TERRORIST ACTS.

Whoever slays a soul, unless it be for a manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

All the believers are sons of Adam (a.s.) and brothers to one another. One who kills another person perpetrates a great evil and instigates a feeling of malice, revenge and hatred among people.
Now for a second please forget all the biased new reports and things you have been told or shown or have read from doctored history..

Judaism - Christianity - Islam all follow the same religion. They all follow the same God the Adam (PBUH) , Moses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH) Muhammad (PBUH)

The only difference is that Jews believe they where the chosen nation and they rejected the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) who came after Moses (PBUH)

Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) to be God and reject Muhammad (PBUH)

Muslims believe Jesus (PBUH) was never God but only a prophet like all the other prophets
And believe that Muhammad (PBUH) Was the final messenger to all mankind

Muslims believe that Jesus (PBUH) Will return to earth in the second coming as he never died as God raised his soul. He is the only messenger who did not die on earth. And the other reasoning for his return is to prove to those who say he is god. To prove them that he is only a prophet and not god

And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?



Even if you just look at the names of the religions
Judaism - Is named after the tribe of Juda
Christianity - Jesus PBUH never called himself a Christian - The enemy's of Jesus (pbuh) him said they are the Christians.
Islam - Means Submission (Submission to the will of the one god)
Even in the names is a sign for men of understanding all others have names derived from what is created by god.
However Islam simply means Submission- and a Muslim is simply one who submits to the Creator the one god.
So in essence All the prophets from Adam PBUH to Muhammad PBUH came with the same message to submit to the oneness of god.

AS A MUSLIM -
I believe that any Muslim living in a country that is non Muslim should respect that country with the utmost respect. Not try to impose Islam on that country or its citizens- there is no harm in dialogue or peaceful talks about faith but Islam cannot and should not be forced on anyone.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taught and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

As such any Muslim living in non Muslim country should respect that country and live peacefully in that country and not be a cause of problems for that country. They have allowed you to practice your faith peacefully as a muslim so do not forcefully impose your faith on them. And anyone doing has truly misunderstood the message of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as that was not his message. People became Muslim in the time of Muhammed (PBUH) not by force but by his example.

THE JEWS CHRISTIANS MUSLIMS need to accept that we have the same roots we have differences but in essence we are all the children of ADAM (PBUH) and follow the same creator and God of prophet ADAM (PBUH)

So as such what religion did ADAM (PBUH) Follow ????? He just worshiped the one god who created him.. So then what must we do???

JEWS - CHRISTIANS - MUSLIMS - CAN ALL LIVE PEACEFULLY TOGETHER
as they have done throughout TRUE history not the the doctored versions of history which where changed like and altered like the bible for obvious reasons to discredit muslims and the true religion.

What you have to ask your self as a Christian is - IF YOU ACCEPT Jesus only to be a prophet and not God then you are in fact following the same faith as muslims.

For all those that fear Muslims want to create sharia law..... And govern everyone else.. How come Muhammad (PBUH) lived peacefully with the other nations, lived side by side with Jews and Christians before they where attacked by the crusades and forced to defend themselves....
Islam has often been called the “religion of the sword,” because of the frequent use of

War terminology throughout the Quran. This is in some ways accurate, but in others misleading. While such terminology is found in greater concentration in the Qur’an than in the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament, it is always within a defining context. Muslims are not commanded by the Qur’an to fight whomever they please; rather, a jihad, which in the Qur’an means a “struggle or striving against evil,” may be fought in the political sense only “against those who prohibit worship, those who create injustice, and those who force believers into exile.”

Moreover, the term jihad refers to four kinds of struggles: those of the heart, those of the tongue, those of the hand, and those of the sword. Only the jihad of the sword, the political and military sense, is of relevance here. This form of jihad developed as a response to the oppression of the first Muslims by the Meccans, and was an intensifying of the small tribal battles known as ghazw; wars on the scale of the jihad were new to the Middle East at that time. The early jihads after Muhammad (PBUH) seem to have been fought primarily for reasons of economic and political power; the Arabs were here the aggressors, no the oppressed, as in the conditions outlined above.
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OP I can say you are truly an anonymous Sunni Muslim COWARD... trying to fool us and hope we fall for your message of love and peace. You Sunnis will never accept anyone and will continue to wage war until all Christians, Jew, Alawites, Shi'ites, Druze, Alavies, Kurds, etc... are either converted or killed. And if you do conquer the world it won't be long before you Sunni Muslim dogs turn on each other because Sunni Muslims must spill blood no matter who it is.
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Anybody who believes that Mohammed was visited by "Gabriel" (more than likely it was Satan) and told to "rewrite" all if the ancient manuscripts 500 years after Jesus was crucified....has got to be retarded.

Yes...that's right OP....you're a retard.
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Chip... You got that right brother. Amen to that. Satan has disguised himself in many ways.hf
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"Many times I cried, 'Allah, I want to kill Christians, I want to kill Jews.' We planned a lot of things, evil things for the Christian world, cruel things for the Jewish world. ... It is by the grace of God that I am here."

So begins the testimony of Daniel Shayesteh, formerly an Islamic terrorist and Iranian revolutionary; now a Christian evangelist.

"I was a famous boy," Shayesteh recalls. "By the age of 9, I was able to do Islamic rituals and recite the Quran."

Picked out from the 12 children of his father's two wives to do Islamic studies from his earliest years, Shayesteh's fame carried him to a position of power among Islamic extremists. With two others he founded Hezbollah, in its earliest days as the revolutionary army in Iran. The army overthrew Mohammed Reza Shah, the king of Iran, in the Islamic Revolution of 1979, and Shayesteh became a political leader helping to institute the rule of Sharia law.

It didn't take long, however, for Shayesteh and other revolutionaries to become dissatisfied with Ayatollah Khomeini, the man they had brought into power to be the country's "Supreme Leader." After Shayesteh's colleague, Abolhassan Beni Sadr, was elected president in 1980, tensions escalated, and in 1989 Khomeini used his influence with Hezbollah to form a military coup against the government with the intent of killing the president. President Sadr and others in his political camp were able to escape the country alive, but Shayesteh was not among them. He was captured and put in prison, which he describes as "a painful place, a place where you beg to die." Even as he waited in a cell on death row, expecting to be executed, God providentially stepped in.

"By the grace of Jesus, I escaped," he says. "Even though I didn't know Him, He had a plan for me."

"I was amazed and shocked, in that comparative study of all religions and philosophies, to see that the values of Christianity are superior in every respect," he explains.

However, it was evidence he refused to accept after all his training in radical Islam.

"I had been told for 32 years that Christianity was the worst religion in the world," he says. "From a child I had always been taught that Islam is the winner, Islam is the best, without any deeper logic about it. Islam must dominate the world, and to ensure that, we must call people to follow Islam. If they do not listen, we must threaten and attack them through terrorism. That was my mindset. That is what all radical Muslims in the world think, and that's why they are practicing terrorism."

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Show video of a Christian decapitating a Muslim in the 21st century and we can have a talk about relativism





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